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Ikantski posted:Wynne breaks one promises and Horwath will be all over her. You probably think this is clever, but lol Horwath couldn't prosecute a dead pope.
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Horwath is that one totally ineffectual public school administrator we all remember, you know the one you saw the science teachers snickering at from the back of the gym during assemblies
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Oct 25, 2015 04:18
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Good Canadian Boy posted:New interview with trudeau speaking about after the election and his thoughts moving forward as PM: I like most of these answers, really. Reiterating the election reform promises, the climate related promises, etc after being elected is good.
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Oct 25, 2015 05:57
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Yeah the escalator dig was also pretty funny without being too mean spirited. She tried to help feed him typical politician BS leeway stuff when they were talking about how they're going to follow through on enacting his platform, and he's like, naw we're actually just gonna follow through on our promises. If this election ends up only being good for legitimately proportional electoral reform, getting rid of Harper, and getting  legalized, that'll be enough for me barring something ridiculous. loving sucks we'll probably end up signing the TPP, but any other positive changes that they actually follow through on will just be icing on top.
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Oct 25, 2015 06:51
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I'm sort of hoping Hillary and/or the Republican congress just scuttle the TPP entirely. She said she would and many in Congress think it's part of the NWO Agenda 21 conspiracy. It would be the funniest end to the whole thing.
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Mederlock posted:Yeah the escalator dig was also pretty funny without being too mean spirited. the force of the players behind the TPP are such that it had a good chance of being signed regardless of who we elected. As much as I enjoy a principled stand against transnational corporate profiteering, the US signing on and us not would be a fatal blow to a bunch of our industry. Now that both Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are pushing against it as campaign rhetoric though, it might still die, so who the gently caress knows whatll happen, but I have a hard time holding Trudeau for account for signing it as in a parallel reality where PM Mulcair never lost the lead I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have said poo poo about it and would've signed on in due course
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Kafka Esq. posted:You probably think this is clever, but lol Horwath couldn't prosecute a dead pope. We should have a cadaver synod for Harper.
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Kafka Esq. posted:You probably think this is clever, but lol Horwath couldn't prosecute a dead pope. I think Horwath is saying the right things but it doesn't matter if the media doesn't report on it. Media gave Mulcair hardly any coverage when he was official opposition so I doubt he'll get more now. I expect Mulcair to make many excellent points that go largely unheard.
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Ikantski posted:I think Horwath is saying the right things but it doesn't matter if the media doesn't report on it. Media gave Mulcair hardly any coverage when he was official opposition so I doubt he'll get more now. I expect Mulcair to make many excellent points that go largely unheard. She forced and election and didnt have a platform ready until like 2 weeks before people were set to go to the polls. She didnt get media attention because she had nothing to loving say other than "Hurf Durf were not Liberals and were not PCs so that means vote for us!  "Like, that election still pisses me off because we had a choice between 2 equally bad people and Hudak literally spewing word for word a Republican Tea Party platform. We were going to get hosed no matter where we went and Im glad we didnt vote in NDP because a disastrous term under Horwath would basically ensure they never ever get elected again. I should probably do the same for this federal election since it really isnt that far off from how the Ontario one went.
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cowofwar posted:The federal government can enact the laws but it will come down to the provinces as to whether they want to implement the system I imagine. Ottawa or Kingston will just become the new pot capital of Canada if Quebec doesn't implement. Hmm, perhaps a reason to finally be happy that the NDP formed provincial government in Alberta...
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Oct 25, 2015 16:35
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cowofwar posted:The federal government can enact the laws but it will come down to the provinces as to whether they want to implement the system I imagine. Ottawa or Kingston will just become the new pot capital of Canada if Quebec doesn't implement. Isn't one of the main goals of legalization to get money out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of legit businesses while generating revenue for the government? Not going along with whatever the feds propose with marijuana will kind of ruin that aspect of it. Either people will continue to buy bud from illicit sources (in which case, only the criminals benefit), or they'll buy it from sources in other provinces, and those provinces will get to reap the benefits.
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QuantaStarFire posted:Isn't one of the main goals of legalization to get money out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of legit businesses while generating revenue for the government? That's certainly a nice side-effect. The bigger goal is to end the bakhsheesh arrangement that the cops in some places have with the public, where they agree not to prosecute people with weed if the smokers agree to not be dicks about it, because there's a whole bucket of civil rights issues attached to that arrangement. The idiotic tug-of-war between the "But it's illegal so we can't be seen allowing it" and the "It's not harming anyone and prosecutions are a waste of everyone's time" factions has to end one way or the other, and given that Canadians consume a lot of weed I just don't see how the letter-of-the-law side could hope to prevail here. I do wonder what percentage of the total weed consumed in Canada comes from criminals-as-in-drug-cartels as opposed to criminals-as-in-Canadians-growing-pot.
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Clearly the solution is to abolish all laws and tax the proceeds of all crime and then we'll have an infinite source of government revenue
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Cultural Imperial posted:Clearly the solution is to abolish all laws and tax the proceeds of all crime and then we'll have an infinite source of government revenue Clearly the solution is to criminalize all substances, thereby eliminating all crime forever.
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Oct 25, 2015 18:26
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Oct 25, 2015 18:49
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we might just be in for four years of fantastic Sun front pages
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quote:You're one of the most informative and intelligent posters in this thread but I find your interpretation of this comment totally implausible. The NDP leadership has a history of expelling people who don't toe the party line. The Waffle is the most famous example but more recently they've done it with pot activists and - in a truly self defeating move - the leader of the CAW. When a prominent high level guy close to the leadership makes a comment like that it is obviously more than a friendly warning. AFAIK, Sears isn't "close to the leadership", and he's put his name to quotes about Tom having temper tantrums and not working well with colleagues. It's really implausible to me that he'd either take it upon himself or allow himself to be dispatched by the leadership to warn off potential challengers and protect Tom's leadership. Anyone who knows party culture and was trying to make an impartial observation could say "the party wouldn't take well to someone being seen as pushing the leader"!
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The B'nai Brith of Canada intends to nominate Harper the peace prize for his unwavering support of Israel. Geh... buh.... er... AAAAAAAHGGHHHHH 
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Oct 25, 2015 19:22
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Pinterest Mom posted:we might just be in for four years of fantastic Sun front pages The Sun is poo poo and always was and evermore shall be so.
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flakeloaf posted:The Sun is poo poo and always was and evermore shall be so. Unfortunately that's probably not the majority opinion in Canada and people eat that crap up
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Pinterest Mom posted:we might just be in for four years of fantastic Sun front pages It's probably pretty fun to work at a newspaper that doesn't have to worry about facts or being unbiased (not that any other newspapers are overly concerned with these things)
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I bet the article is reactionary garbage but the front page looks like fairly neutral eye-catching nonsense to me? edit: unless I'm missing some kind of old person dogwhistle and the image is meant to evoke some old people fears about young hippies taking over Canada Heavy neutrino has issued a correction as of 19:51 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Heavy neutrino posted:edit: unless I'm missing some kind of old person dogwhistle and the image is meant to evoke some old people fears about young hippies taking over Canada Ottawa Sun posted:What Legal Pot may look like under Trudeau
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Oct 25, 2015 20:23
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lol, close. A lot of death. The Green death.Ottawa Sun posted:
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quote:Two suicides and a murder committed by people who consumed edibles have caused alarm in Colorado. Three deaths tangentially related to marijuana in a year and a half? Shut it down! Meanwhile, how many alcohol-related deaths have there been? quote:Another area Canada will need to study is drug-impaired driving. While fatal crashes in Washington only increased slightly after legalization, the percentage of drivers involved in those crashes who tested positive for THC doubled -- to 12 per cent in 2014 from 6 per cent in 2010. Again, see: Deaths, Alcohol Related I know this response is obvious to almost anyone sympathetic to legalization, but how they don't immediately jump to mind for the target audience of this piece is a bit perplexing. Or maybe they're the kind of people that would like the make alcohol illegal as well. 
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Both easily foreseeable results of making marijuana candies and lacking a means to test impaired drivers for weed. What I took from that article is that they made mistakes we can learn from.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:56
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Seems like that could backfire. Rempel is likely to be younger and more energetic than whomever they settle on. Going from Rempel to Charest for example makes him look really old and stale.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:59
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Yeah, even the CBC piece on this topic comes off as a bit fear mongery.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Unfortunately that's probably not the majority opinion in Canada and people eat that crap up
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Airborne Viking posted:To go from speculative to anecdotal, I have not met a single person who (whenever the topic came up) didn't think any SUN newspaper was a piece of poo poo. Maybe it comes from being in the prairies but everywhere I've worked and everyone I've talked to prefers the sun either because it's "easier to read" or "sunshine girl".
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Slightly Toasted posted:Maybe it comes from being in the prairies but everywhere I've worked and everyone I've talked to prefers the sun either because it's "easier to read" or "sunshine girl".  I guess my social circle in Winnipeg was a bit different.
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Slightly Toasted posted:Maybe it comes from being in the prairies but everywhere I've worked and everyone I've talked to prefers the sun either because it's "easier to read" or "sunshine girl". A lot of my old coworkers """ironically""" read the sun like that. Oh Alberta.
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Furnaceface posted:She forced and election and didnt have a platform ready until like 2 weeks before people were set to go to the polls. She didnt get media attention because she had nothing to loving say other than "Hurf Durf were not Liberals and were not PCs so that means vote for us! This, I really, really need to reiterate this whenever people freak out about Wynne, yeah I hate her a lot, but drat did we ever have a lovely selection. That said, since I'm in Windsor Ontario right now for school I get the joy of living in a place that is NDP because "unions" and everywhere else is blue because all the rich people don't live in Windsor itself. Word of advice, don't ever come here, it blows. Here is a lovely little conservative piece by a local columnist for the local newspaper (he calls the Liberal party the "happy party" and the Conservative party the "adult party", comments are also very choice.) http://windsorstar.com/opinion/columnists/vander-doelen-let-the-blame-begin: quote:With that endless election finally over, we’re going to find out just how much a new government can and can’t do.
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salty conservative tears sustain me VVVVV they retroactively endorsed it, it's practically the same thing as organizing it 
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poo poo, I didn't know that ISIS attacked parliament and the culprits are still alive and free. We'd better get on that, stat.
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Rempel might be interim leader but not long-term leader. There was an interesting discussion on the matter on P&P. I think I agree that Kenney should be interim leader but it needs to go to a younger face in the long term. Kenney is not electable. If the Harper guard tries to strong-arm Kenney in to place I imagine the party will self-destruct. But personally I am rooting for Ford or Charest because that would be hilarious.
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Is it normal for a party leader to go dark this long after an election? Mulcair hasn't been seen in public since Monday night.
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brucio posted:Is it normal for a party leader to go dark this long after an election? Mulcair hasn't been seen in public since Monday night.
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brucio posted:Is it normal for a party leader to go dark this long after an election? Mulcair hasn't been seen in public since Monday night. Dion took a week after 2008. Jack took 12 hours in 2011.
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