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Yeah that's the better way to put it.
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Sep 18, 2015 10:38
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Maybe the women in the labour party are incompetent?
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Sep 18, 2015 12:05
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If most of the women MPs came in in the last few parliaments then they're going to be heavily right-wing, so he may have had real trouble finding worthy candidates.
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Sep 18, 2015 12:30
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It does seem that at least a few refused to serve because they didn't want to be associated with Corbyn's 'extremism.'
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Sep 18, 2015 12:35
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Peel posted:If most of the women MPs came in in the last few parliaments then they're going to be heavily right-wing, so he may have had real trouble finding worthy candidates. Yeah there is an issue that as a lot of the more experienced women MPs were elected on all women shortlists they were often candidates who were basically pre-selected by the party HQ as blairite loyalists.
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Sep 18, 2015 12:40
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Yeah there is an issue that as a lot of the more experienced women MPs were elected on all women shortlists they were often candidates who were basically pre-selected by the party HQ as blairite loyalists. When is the purge happening?
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Sep 18, 2015 20:26
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McDonnell's explanation on Question Time last night for Corbyn not singing the anthem was hilariously crap. Apparently he was too overcome with emotion to remember to sing. Just tell the morons he was paying his respects in his own way but he won't do it again and have done with it. Best part is a tie between his increasingly animated reactions to the Tory banging on about Corbyn abolishing the army and the barely-contained eye-rolling at the cockney geezer demanding a contingency plan for the coming Muslim invasion.
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Sep 18, 2015 20:47
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im sure corbyn will get the hint that he no longer needs to get attention as the head of the opposition he automatically has it he should stop doing irrelevant poo poo and focus on the issues that means kissing the queen hand and other trifling bullshit
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Sep 18, 2015 21:24
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:McDonnell's explanation on Question Time last night for Corbyn not singing the anthem was hilariously crap. Apparently he was too overcome with emotion to remember to sing. Just tell the morons he was paying his respects in his own way but he won't do it again and have done with it. To some extent this is true, though. While yes, he probably wouldn't sing the national anthem given the choice (and I'm the same), he'd been talking about his (now dead) parents up to and on that day. He's a very reserved person and I think it's not out of character for him to think of his parents in fond memory. I agree it seems like a weak excuse, but it's the kind of thing I'd do, albeit in my case I'd have no family allowed to fight in WW2. BTW avatarchat but NFYD I always love seeing your av in threads. TCH I still can't decide if yours is a real person or some super-realistic 3d render.
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Sep 18, 2015 21:31
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i hope corbyn doesnt change his opinion on abolishing the monarchy
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Sep 18, 2015 21:34
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Apparently the monarchy isn't a hill he's willing to die on as leader, and with 80% of the British public enthusiastically subjected to it, he's probably right not to try.
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Sep 18, 2015 22:17
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Liz's Men-dallite voterbase.
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Sep 18, 2015 22:21
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Now taking submissions for "Corbyn is racist/ableist/transphobe" arguments. Keep up the mediocre fight!
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Sep 18, 2015 22:24
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Corbyn hosed my dog. #VoteLibDem
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Sep 18, 2015 22:26
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Tesseraction posted:
its a mystery woman from russia haunts my dreams
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Sep 19, 2015 09:57
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TomViolence posted:with 80% of the British public enthusiastically subjected to it britain delenda est
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Sep 19, 2015 10:54
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TomViolence posted:Apparently the monarchy isn't a hill he's willing to die on as leader, and with 80% of the British public enthusiastically subjected to it, he's probably right not to try. The monarchy is just the sort of dumb distraction he shouldn't waste time fighting.
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Sep 19, 2015 15:23
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the queen will die and everyone will make their disdain for charles known and it'll be the start of the end hopefully
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Sep 19, 2015 19:33
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Jose posted:the queen will die and everyone will make their disdain for charles known and it'll be the start of the end hopefully the queen will activate an abdication clause by being in a persistent vegetative state a la mandela and we'll all be expected to rally round charles, the establishment will call in desperate favours with every loving form of media there is to manufacture fervent support for radar ears, he'll do endearing publicity stops, world leaders will fawn over him, royalist interests will point to UK soft power and tourism income to prop his generation up too the federalisation of europe and deconstruction of the nation-state as a concept will during his reign render him a mere historical curiosity who also
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Sep 19, 2015 20:04
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what will your country's name be when Lord Protector of the Commonwealth Jeremy Corbyn has harry and william executed?
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Sep 19, 2015 20:08
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Aliquid posted:what will your country's name be when Lord Protector of the Commonwealth Jeremy Corbyn has harry and william executed? New Marxia/Federal Republic of Stalin
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Sep 19, 2015 20:18
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The United Anglican Socialist Republics, UASR. The Commonwealth of Anglophone Socialist Republics (CASR) will shortly be put in place.
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Sep 19, 2015 20:51
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FUCES the federal united commonwealth of England and Scotland
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Sep 19, 2015 20:53
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Jose posted:the queen will die and everyone will make their disdain for charles known and it'll be the start of the end hopefully Charles teams up with PM Corbyn to build UK socialism
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Sep 19, 2015 20:58
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McDowell posted:Charles teams up with PM Corbyn to build UK socialism Charles Egalité
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Sep 19, 2015 21:11
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Charles is kinda cute when he's talking about farms. I could get behind King Charles if we only saw him doing rural things, I don't really like him unless he's wearing wellies.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:28
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Red Bones posted:Charles is kinda cute when he's talking about farms. I could get behind King Charles if we only saw him doing rural things, I don't really like him unless he's wearing wellies. His biscuits are a loving scam
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Sep 19, 2015 21:36
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do the estates of people in Cornwall who die without an heir still go directly to him?
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Sep 19, 2015 21:37
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Red Bones posted:Charles is kinda cute when he's talking about farms. I could get behind King Charles if we only saw him doing rural things, I don't really like him unless he's wearing wellies. he's actually a massive retard about farms much like everything else but is ancient and might die before the queen
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Sep 19, 2015 22:33
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Jose posted:he's actually a massive retard about farms much like everything else but is ancient and might die before the queen seriously, any arguments about the tourism pull of having the over-priced duchy oatcakes are like the desiccated ashen remains of the bourgeoisie in my mouth
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Sep 20, 2015 01:31
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Yeah the tourism argument for retaining the royals just instantly falls apart the second you look at Paris. Wait people still want to visit Versailles despite you lot executing all your royals? gently caress. So many wasted pounds.
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Sep 20, 2015 01:45
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As a random US dude, I think it's neat and somewhat charming that you recognize the descendants of your now-nonexistent monarchy empire, but they seem like stuck-up d-bags who have a bizarre amount of cultural power in a democracy (the shadow leader didn't kneel down and flagellate himself in front of the queen! Le scandal!) they should be more like icelandic royalty who party at concerts and marry some groupie imo
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Sep 20, 2015 04:31
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There is no constitution - the 'democracy' of the houses of commons and lords operate at the Queen's pleasure. King Charles will implement dictatorship of the proletariat
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Sep 20, 2015 04:53
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Yeah, the UK constitution exists as some weird form of mass hallucination.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:04
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Also, UK goons explain this to me. I know the shadow cabinet basically gets to follow the real cabinet around and peek over their shoulders occasionally, but are these same shadow cabinet members also the ones that will become the real cabinet if Corbyn wins in five years, or can we expect significant change-ups by then? Your system is weird and confusing to me. Like why come you actually know who your party leaders are? Wouldn't it be more efficient if you just kept a couple figureheads around for appearances and left most of the decision-making to anonymous apparatchiks?
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Sep 20, 2015 08:16
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Duckbag posted:Also, UK goons explain this to me. I know the shadow cabinet basically gets to follow the real cabinet around and peek over their shoulders occasionally, but are these same shadow cabinet members also the ones that will become the real cabinet if Corbyn wins in five years, or can we expect significant change-ups by then?
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Sep 20, 2015 08:19
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A shadow cabinet is the proposed replacement for the cabinet of the government of the day. This means that roles that only exist in Corbyn's cabinet (Sec of State for Mental Health) would become official roles should he win in 2020 (which sadly isn't likely at this point, but by hammer and by sickle we'll try and turn this around). The government and shadow cabinet are not obligated to match roles, but it's generally a bad idea for the opposition to not have a counter to the Sec in government.
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The Express is running a hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn's Victorian great great grandfather, because journalism is dead.
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