ulvir posted:

Oh no, I wasn't arguing against that. I was just commenting on the dumb idea of "judging the past by todays morals". Because there were nations who abolished slavery a whole 100 years before the US, for example. (And also lol at the idea in general, following that logic, we shouldn't say that what Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot etc. was doing wasn't objectively terrible)