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I can't picture Young Chicadillo as anything but Chicadillo's Daughter in every possible way. E: Semi-related, I always mentally think of it as Chick-a-dee-o rather than Chick-a-dill-o, is this correct
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Mors Rattus posted:I can't picture Young Chicadillo as anything but Chicadillo's Daughter in every possible way. No, because it's Chicadino.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:words poppy It's working well so far.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:words poppy  I just can't get into the writing style.
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On one hand I do miss the pictures, but on the other I like how we got through the entire Chicadino backstory in one update instead of like seven. Each update should move the story a lot further each time.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:words poppy Pr-whoa-se Poppy. There was no less tortured a way to write that, I'm so sorry. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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Oh jeez Tim is either taking the worst way out or the best way out in SGR, the situation's so messed up I can't even tell anymore.
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Scaramouche posted:Oh jeez Tim is either taking the worst way out or the best way out in SGR, the situation's so messed up I can't even tell anymore. it's Tim, worst way
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Scaramouche posted:Oh jeez Tim is either taking the worst way out or the best way out in SGR, the situation's so messed up I can't even tell anymore. I mean we saw how it'll end up already. Both still in Tackleford with Tim glumly doing her gardening.
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so, honest question: is it kinda cool someone is doing something different, and the thing still persists? I get that like, change equals loss, and it's natural to lament that loss... but I know a lot of people in this thread posted "woah poppy" a lot... is this a new manifestation of "woah poppy"? I think maybe a transformation may be more exciting than a loss... I hope my weird words make some sense! Anyway, those are just my thoughts. Thanks!
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key party favors posted:so, honest question: the little short story episodes (the new one and the winter one) delivered as much exposition as it'd take multiple chapters of the comic to do less clearly, but Morbi hasn't really demonstrated that they're very effective at conveying action or the kind of visual gags the comic rested on so far so I guess it depends what you read it for in the first place like, you get much more verbose internal monologues from the characters but otoh the winter story has a bunch of paragraphs like this: quote:The sky was growing dark, and on the rim of the cliffs surrounding the Ovis Tree, Bow could see a huge wave of wind and snow flowing down the side like water bursting from a dam. There was always something that felt unnatural about Winter to him, as strange as it felt to describe an annual environmental phenomenon as such. just to do this:  p.s. Bone is a webcomic now A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Sep 13, 2017 |
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key party favors posted:I get that like, change equals loss, and it's natural to lament that loss... It's often much harder on the artist than the reader. However...
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Morbi is a great storyteller, excellent with characters and worldbuilding and comedy. They are, however, a very mediocre writer. (That, or they just throw up the first draft of whatever they write, which would be rather like posting a comic update that's just rough sketches.)
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:words poppy feetnotes posted:It's often much harder on the artist than the reader. However...
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I know Morbi reads this thread, and I love Poppy in general, but oh God, Morbi, please tell me this was a first draft and you just got lazy or frustrated on proofreading this page and just threw it out there early. This is supposed to be your big step forward, your first impression to prove to everyone that this new format is going to work just as well as the old one. And yet... There's large-scale problems (the tone the writing tries to take doesn't really match well with the content of the second half, and not in a 'contrast to make things more uncomfortable' way), but there's small problems, too. So many lines, especially dialogue, are broken up in weird ways, ways that would be super easy to fix. quote:"Fine. I'll. Tell you. You won't. Like it." she relented. quote:"Fine." She relented, "I'll. Tell You. You won't. Like it.". There's little things like that all throughout the text, including in the very last line. I could keep going on, for a while, but I just feel like one of two things happened. Either Morbi's got a lot more to learn about writing than they think, or they need to work harder on making sure to proofread before they post. This is the first page of the new format. It's supposed to be Morbi putting their best foot forward to prove to all of us to stick with it, that the good will still be coming. And I feel like I'm reading a mediocre YA novel. You've got better in you than this, Morbi. Kill your ego, kill your darlings, and show us what you can really do.
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That's a completely fair opinion because I do still have a lot to learn about writing, and I went in knowing the prose in the first several updates were going to be rough no matter how many redrafts I gave them, in the same way that the first chapter of Poppy as a comic was very rough despite it being my tenth(!) draft. I think there's only so much you can do without learning from loving up and building experience, but that's why I do want to take the feedback I get now very seriously. I'll try to pay closer attention to making lines flow more naturally in future pages.
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 I'm totally still on board, you've shown you've got a hell of a lot of talent in general. Guess there's just some growing pains in transferring mediums.
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Scaramouche posted:Oh jeez Tim is either taking the worst way out or the best way out in SGR, the situation's so messed up I can't even tell anymore. It's not Tim if he doesn't blow things up. And reading today's update, is it just me or does it seem like Tim's placing all the blame on Shelley?
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He is 100% assigning her the majority of the blame and acting like he was just innocently suckered in. He's not wrong about Shelley's particular flaws, but he's actively avoiding any kind of real introspection here. He always had a choice in the matter, and what he chose was to cheat on his wife.
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Tim sucks and is irresponsible and careless, but Riley did banish him from their marriage, their house and the country. And told Ryan not to let him stay in their house, forcing him to isolation in the woods where Shelley scooped him up. I actually don't know if I'm supposed to have sympathy for any of the characters at this point. Except the mystery boys, who no longer exist.
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feetnotes posted:Tim sucks and is irresponsible and careless, but Riley did banish him from their marriage, their house and the country. And told Ryan not to let him stay in their house, forcing him to isolation in the woods where Shelley scooped him up. Ryan and Amy are still ok. edit: Well except for the part where Riley forbade Ryan to give Tim shelter and he listened, I guess. I don't remember that but I have never reread SGR/BM. edit2: Oh, it's right there. I'm not sure if she specifically forbade it or if Ryan has a frankly appropriate level of fear for his sister but it's still pretty bad. Fortis fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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The Lord of Hats posted:He is 100% assigning her the majority of the blame and acting like he was just innocently suckered in. He's not wrong about Shelley's particular flaws, but he's actively avoiding any kind of real introspection here. He always had a choice in the matter, and what he chose was to cheat on his wife. Yeah, Tim's being a scumbag here and I hope Shelley calls him out for not taking some of the blame later on. For all of Shelley's flaws, she deserves someone better. Didn't she had a boyfriend who thought the world of her before? I remember the guy because of how all of Shelley's friends were terrible snobs towards him. feetnotes posted:Tim sucks and is irresponsible and careless, but Riley did banish him from their marriage, their house and the country. And told Ryan not to let him stay in their house, forcing him to isolation in the woods where Shelley scooped him up. To add to that, he got banished because he took the blame for Scout messing with his invention. It's kind of...amazing that the one time he actually took responsibility for something, it all spiraled down into this mess. feetnotes posted:I actually don't know if I'm supposed to have sympathy for any of the characters at this point. Except the mystery boys, who no longer exist. Sonny is a saint and I love him, but I will forever feel sorry for Linton. Poor guy's been reduced to "lol i'm so horny" jokes in the last few cases. And I have wonder if this is John Allison's plan all along. Make all the characters terrible and toxic that he won't be tempted to go back to this setting ever again. 
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amigolupus posted:
Worked for Rich and Holly Oh wai
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Well I get the sentiment of not wanting to continue onward with this thing if there's no sign that it's really going to be a long-term relationship, but that doesn't make it any better that he's burning his bridges while he's still on them. I also get the sentiment of wanting something more fulfilling than being a rich woman's toy, but considering how literally everything Tim ever does is cursed, it might be his best option.
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amigolupus posted:To add to that, he got banished because he took the blame for Scout messing with his invention. It's kind of...amazing that the one time he actually took responsibility for something, it all spiraled down into this mess. I'm not quite convinced it's as altruistic as that. Someone on the facebook thread posted--and I'm inclined to agree--that he kind of wanted to be out of that entire situation, and took the opportunity to leave without needing to explain anything. He kind of declared "If Riley knew that Scout did a dumb thing as a 6-year-old, it would forever darken their relationship and that would be bad for Scout", and instead left to live in the forest inventing stuff (eventually destroying said forest)/shacking up with gorgeous rich ladyfriend-with-benefits, without really making an effort to go back. He's just been avoiding making any real decisions. When Riley separated him from his previous life (which is pretty drat inexcusable, don't get me wrong, Riley is absolutely at fault for that), he went along with it because that was easier than confronting her about it, and this is kind of more of the same.
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amigolupus posted:To add to that, he got banished because he took the blame for Scout messing with his invention. It's kind of...amazing that the one time he actually took responsibility for something, it all spiraled down into this mess. this isn't exactly an injustice just because he left the, what, ten-year-old alone with an unstable super science machine instead of like a stack of pipe bombs. He is the one who deserves the blame, and trying to hide behind Scout wouldn't have really lead to a different outcome it would've just been disgusting on his part. there's kind of a disjoint since the comic tends to vacillate wildly from consequence-free cartoon violence to "blowing up your house is actually bad and abnormal and has serious consequences that don't just go away in the next episode", but this whole mess is clearly working with the non-cartoon logic where fond memories from youth (of taking the fall for him) or not you'd have to have a brain tumor to let Tim anywhere near your family A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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While I won't defend any of these people generally, I can't blame Tim for seeing everything in the worst possible, most defensive light right now, because he just got beat up and is clearly still shaken. There's no reason he'd be at his best right now, and he should probably not make any long term decisions.
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amigolupus posted:Sonny is a saint and I love him, but I will forever feel sorry for Linton. Poor guy's been reduced to "lol i'm so horny" jokes in the last few cases. And I have wonder if this is John Allison's plan all along. Make all the characters terrible and toxic that he won't be tempted to go back to this setting ever again. You say that but we're talking about a comic that has gone back to the cast of Bobbins instead of being about its nominal main characters. Again.
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The Lord of Hats posted:I'm not quite convinced it's as altruistic as that. Someone on the facebook thread posted--and I'm inclined to agree--that he kind of wanted to be out of that entire situation, and took the opportunity to leave without needing to explain anything. He kind of declared "If Riley knew that Scout did a dumb thing as a 6-year-old, it would forever darken their relationship and that would be bad for Scout", and instead left to live in the forest inventing stuff (eventually destroying said forest)/shacking up with gorgeous rich ladyfriend-with-benefits, without really making an effort to go back. He's just been avoiding making any real decisions. That's the first time I've heard that theory, but that does make a lot more sense. The bit where Tim tried to "help" Eustace with his life also fits with this idea. A Wizard of Goatse posted:this isn't exactly an injustice just because he left the, what, ten-year-old alone with an unstable super science machine instead of like a stack of pipe bombs. He is the one who deserves the blame, and trying to hide behind Scout wouldn't have really lead to a different outcome it would've just been disgusting on his part. I thought the machine wouldn't blow up if it had been left alone (though it would've eventually), but then I realized I was giving Tim's inventions too much credit. Scaramouche posted:Worked for Rich and Holly In Rich's case, it worked perfectly well.
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amigolupus posted:I thought the machine wouldn't blow up if it had been left alone (though it would've eventually), but then I realized I was giving Tim's inventions too much credit. either way really, if all it takes to make something blow your drat house up is poking it with a screwdriver and you leave a child unattended with it it's kinda on you when the inevitable happens I remember being older than Scout is in that strip when I watched half my class take turns while the teacher was out shoving a fork in the electrical socket. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Sep 14, 2017 |
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Wait, rereading THAT storyline, it turns out that Riley already served Tim divorce papers a long time ago. And also that Shelley confessed her love for him, which means it wasn't supposed to just be a casual friends-with-benefits thing at all. I remain confused. Well, we knew this breakup was coming. And we also know Tim will still be hanging around doing yardwork in several months' time, when Shelley is bigger. He doesn't have a white streak in his hair yet, so something's going to happen there. And this stuff happens before the last Bad Machinery case, but by the end of it Shelley is still pregnant and now maybe living with Erin, who came back from Hell and then Tackleford Limbo. I'm guessing the "end" will be when this drat baby finally gets born. And if he gets the urge to bring the old characters back again, I hope we get the gritty Linton reboot where he's become a private detective, using his old mystery-solving skills, is at odds with his by-the-book cop dad and new protege Robert Cop, and has frequent dame trouble.
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I guess it's one of those things where every story becomes a tragedy after going on for long enough. Happy couples being cutesy with eachother isn't the John Allison style.
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If anyone needs Halloween costume ideas for this year, Prequel will have been dead with a hollow fascimile of life for two years exactly this coming October 31st.
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I check prequel every so often when the Facebook fanpage posts some fanart of it or someone mentions it here. The latest post on prequel from two years ago currently has 40,000 disqus comments and is still going strong with people patiently waiting for the update, defending the author for the hiatus, and arguing about whether it's still fine to be making flash animations in 2017.
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Prequel is what happens when you let a community fetishize suffering
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Which will come first, the big update or the last major browser removing Flash forever. Edit: In fact, isn't there like three years left on that happening?
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