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 Oh hay another links course  The PGA Championship returns to Whistling Straits in Kohler, Wisconsin (yes, THAT Kohler), site of the 2010 edition where Martin Kaymer beat Bubba Watson in a playoff after Dustin Johnson apparently grounded his club in a bunker on the 72nd hole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qQEcx7xEuQ Air Times (ET) Thu/Fri: TNT 2-8pm Sat/Sun: TNT 11am-2pm, CBS 2-7pm You'll be able to stream every day at http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/ and on the PGA Championship app. Marquee Tee Times (Thu/Fri ET) Brooks Koepka, Adam Scott, Henrik Stenson: 2:10pm (1), 8:55am (10) Jordan Spieth, Rory McIlroy, Zach Johnson: 2:20pm (1), 9:05am (10) Bill Haas, Sergio Garcia, Louis Oosthuizen: 8:25am (10), 1:40pm (1) Rickie Fowler , Jason Day, Dustin Johnson: 9:05am (10), 2:20pm (1) Tiger Woods, Martin Kaymer, Keegan Bradley: 9:15am (10) 2:30pm (1) Odds Jordan Spieth 5/1 Rory McIlroy 8/1 Dustin Johnson 12/1 Jason Day 14/1 Adam Scott 20/1 Bubba Watson 20/1 Justin Rose 20/1 Rickie Fowler 20/1 Henrik Stenson 25/1 Louis Oosthuizen 33/1 Martin Kaymer 33/1 Phil Mickelson 33/1 Sergio Garcia 33/1 My Top 5 Picks Jordan Spieth Rory McIlroy (lol) Bubba Watson Justin Rose Rickie Fowler Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Aug 10, 2015 |
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Hell yes links golf owns. This whole tournament gonna own
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Aug 9, 2015 22:13
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Are we still doing the ball bet thing? My man Bubba is on fire the past couple weeks.
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Aug 9, 2015 22:16
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DJ Redemption.........goes on epic 3-week bender afterwards. Dustin Johnson 12/1 Jordan Spieth 5/1 Bubba Watson 20/1
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Aug 9, 2015 22:37
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DJExile posted:Hell yes links golf owns. This whole tournament gonna own 
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Aug 10, 2015 01:14
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Spieth for president
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Aug 10, 2015 01:16
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I think you managed to pick the most boring picture of that course.
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Aug 10, 2015 13:49
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Ahhh yes, Whistling Straits, the place where fans are allowed to walk in the bunkers and players are required to hit out of their footprints without grounding their clubs. A true Muni experience! Apart from the $385 greens fees(mandatory caddy not included).
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Aug 10, 2015 18:53
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DoctaFun posted:Ahhh yes, Whistling Straits, the place where fans are allowed to walk in the bunkers and players are required to hit out of their footprints without grounding their clubs. Seriously wasn't that where they fixed the rule after it dicked DJ over? E: I think they called them 'garbage bunkers' or somesuch
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Aug 11, 2015 02:22
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The rules are no mystery since these notices are posted everywhere the players go (pee). 1. All areas of the course that were designed and built as bunkers, filled with sand, will be played as bunkers (hazards), whether or not they've been raked. This will mean that many bunkers positioned outside of the ropes, as well as some areas of bunkers inside the ropes, close to the rope line, will likely include numerous footprints, heel prints, trash and tire tracks during the play of the Championship Such irregularities of surface are a part of the game and no free relief will be available from these conditions. All bunkers inside the ropes will be raked each morning prior to play as normal. 2. Stones in bunkers are movable obstructions (Rule 24-1 applies).
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Aug 11, 2015 04:24
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So you can't move some drunk's empty beer cans that he dumped there, but feel free to get rocks out of the way. That's incredible.
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Aug 11, 2015 11:52
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That can't be right -- a beer can and "trash" in general is a movable obstruction.
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sarehu posted:That can't be right -- a beer can and "trash" in general is a movable obstruction. http://www.usga.org/rules/rules-and-decisions.html#!rule-24 A player may take relief, without penalty, from a movable obstruction as follows: a. If the ball does not lie in or on the obstruction, the obstruction may be removed. If the ball moves, it must be replaced, and there is no penalty, provided that the movement of the ball is directly attributable to the removal of the obstruction. Otherwise, Rule 18-2a applies. b. If the ball lies in or on the obstruction, the ball may be lifted and the obstruction removed. The ball must through the green or in a hazard be dropped, or on the putting green be placed, as near as possible to the spot directly under the place where the ball lay in or on the obstruction, but not nearer the hole. HOWEVER, they cannot move "food": 23/3 Half-Eaten Pear Q.A half-eaten pear lies directly in front of a ball in a bunker and there is no pear tree in the vicinity of the bunker. In the circumstances, is the pear an obstruction rather than a loose impediment, in which case the player could remove it without penalty? A.No. A pear is a natural object. When detached from a tree it is a loose impediment. The fact that a pear has been half-eaten and there is no pear tree in the vicinity does not alter the status of the pear. 23/4 Fruit Skins Q.Is a banana skin or other fruit skin a loose impediment? A.Yes.
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Aug 11, 2015 14:17
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god dammit I love me some USGA rules clarification sections
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Aug 11, 2015 14:20
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Half Eaten Pear rule my new favorite rule
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Aug 11, 2015 14:20
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How I read the story was that the majority of the fault is with DJ of course - but also note that the official with DJ's group that day was sent downfield (by DJ) to wrangle the crowd when he would have most likely reminded DJ about it being a bunker. Also DJ's caddy should have been on top of it as well but somehow didn't think to.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:38
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What if the half-eaten pear still has the sticker on it?
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Aug 11, 2015 16:40
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Golf Megathread 2016: The fact that a pear has been half-eaten and there is no pear tree in the vicinity does not alter the status of the pear.
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Aug 11, 2015 16:51
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mattfl posted:Are we still doing the ball bet thing? My man Bubba is on fire the past couple weeks. I'm down for organizing the ball bet. Quote this post (so I can find it easily) with your one (1) golfer that you'll pick. All submissions must be made before the first tee time Thursday morning. One unique golfer per goon, e.g. If I pick Sergio, nobody else can. Yes, be jealous. The goon with the highest finishing golfer on Sunday will have a dozen of his player's golf balls mailed to him from each of the other participants in the contest. This won't be cost prohibitive if the golf balls are purchased from http://www.lostgolfballs.com/. Tour Preferred X balls are $40 on Amazon, maybe a little more in most brick and mortar stores, but they're $14.99 from LGB for top quality (which might have a sharpie mark or corporate logo but nothing else). You can expect $12-15 in taxes and shipping costs, but that's still $10 cheaper. And again for the record, I'm picking Sergio.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:06
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Kameh posted:I'm down for organizing the ball bet. Quote this post (so I can find it easily) with your one (1) golfer that you'll pick. All submissions must be made before the first tee time Thursday morning. One unique golfer per goon, e.g. If I pick Sergio, nobody else can. Yes, be jealous. Jordan Spieth! 
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Aug 11, 2015 17:08
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DJExile posted:Jordan Spieth! Figured as much. You snooze, you lose guys! Josh Lyman, taking Adam Scott again?
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Aug 11, 2015 17:16
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Kameh posted:Figured as much. You snooze, you lose guys! Safe bet = boring bet, but it's for great poo poo. I wanna see who has the courage to take DJ. Hats off to whoever does.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:17
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I gotta think Bubba Watson is the man to beat this year. He lost in a playoff here in 2010, and he's won 2 green jackets since then. Bubba also won shortly after the British Open, finished 2nd at the Canadian Open, and finished 2nd last week. Spieth definitely seems like a safe bet, but he's never played this course in competition (his first major season was in 2012), but he's also never made the cut in a PGA Championship. It's crazy to think that, despite being the longest course in major championship history, short hitters can be very successful here. Chris DiMarco and Justin Leonard nearly won it in 2004, and Kaymer beat out Watson and DJ in 2010. It rewards guys who keep it in the fairway. Spieth fits that mold very well. Edit: Full disclaimer - Martin Kaymer can absolutely mash the ball. He can't keep up with Watson or DJ, though. It's relative. Kameh fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 17:26
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Kameh posted:Figured as much. You snooze, you lose guys!  The Adam Scott pick was made quite reluctantly. With the exception of Spieth, there aren't any Titleist staffers I really like to win it, so I'd have to go with a Titleist ball player. I'm tentatively picking Bubba because he's played well recently, but he's historically terrible on links layouts. Still, he finished runner-up here in 2010 so he can play THIS course. Fowler would also be a solid choice. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 11, 2015 |
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Aug 11, 2015 17:30
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Yeah if the weather is good, which it seems it will be, you're going to see a lot of the long bombers go to town on this course. It's hard to ever count Bubba out of a major in the states. I think if Spieth plays his relatively simple game, he's going to do very well here.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:32
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I think this is Tiger's tournament to lose, he's been hitting the ball so welllaahahahahahaha I can't keep a straight face. Edit: I know he's been playing better lately, but he hasn't been 'IN' a big tournament in awhile now.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:34
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Kameh posted:I'm down for organizing the ball bet. Quote this post (so I can find it easily) with your one (1) golfer that you'll pick. All submissions must be made before the first tee time Thursday morning. One unique golfer per goon, e.g. If I pick Sergio, nobody else can. Yes, be jealous. I'l take Jason Day in the ball competition if he's still avail.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:35
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DoctaFun posted:I think this is Tiger's tournament to lose, he's been hitting the ball so welllaahahahahahaha I can't keep a straight face. I doubt he'll finish top 15 but it'd be nice to at least see him make the cut and maybe finish top 25.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:40
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DJExile posted:...It's hard to ever count Bubba out of a major in the states.... You might think so, but Bubba doesn't bring consistency to his majors, at least in the US. Not counting the Masters, we have... US Open: 2004 - CUT 2005 - DNP 2006 - DNP 2007 - T5 (At Oakmont, won by Angel Cabrera, with Tiger and Jim Furyk giving chase) 2008 - CUT 2009 - T18 2010 - DNP 2011 - T63 2012 - CUT (right after his first Masters win) 2013 - T32 2014 - CUT (again, right after a Masters win) 2015 - CUT PGA Championship: 2004 - DNP 2005 - DNP 2006 - DNP 2007 - CUT 2008 - 70 (out of 73 players to make the cut) 2009 - CUT 2010 - 2 (lost in playoff to Kaymer) 2011 - T26 2012 - T11 (only top 10 that year was his Master's victory) 2013 - CUT 2014 - T65 (out of 74 players) I'm still putting him on my fantasy team because he can draw upon previous success here.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:48
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Fowler is gonna win this and I'm gonna shoot myself for picking Bubba instead, just like how I shot myself when Adam Scott when +5 on the last 5 holes at St. Andrews.
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Aug 11, 2015 17:50
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Yeah Bubba kinda seems all-or-nothing in his game, but when he's on, he's on. Dude's basically the wild card in more ways than one 
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Aug 11, 2015 17:50
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DJExile posted:I doubt he'll finish top 15 but it'd be nice to at least see him make the cut and maybe finish top 25. He finished T24 in 2004 and T28 in 2010. Of course, he had a STELLAR year in 2005, so he wasn't quite in top form in either of those PGA championships, but a top 25 or better for him on this course would be fantastic, almost regardless of recent struggles.
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Josh Lyman posted:Fowler is gonna win this and I'm gonna shoot myself for picking Bubba instead, just like how I shot myself when Adam Scott when +5 on the last 5 holes at St. Andrews. I mean, I don't know if mattfl was trying to call Bubba when he asked about the ball bet...but Watson and Fowler both play Titleist balls, so...gonna change? 
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Aug 11, 2015 17:52
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Kameh posted:I mean, I don't know if mattfl was trying to call Bubba when he asked about the ball bet...but Watson and Fowler both play Titleist balls, so...gonna change? Ya that was kinda my reason for mentioning him to begin with 
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Aug 11, 2015 19:37
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mattfl posted:Ya that was kinda my reason for mentioning him to begin with
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Aug 11, 2015 19:45
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Josh Lyman posted:That's fine. You can take Bubba and I'll tentatively take Fowler, though I may still back out by Thursday. Nut up. Fowler just drained a long birdie putt on the last to (eventually) halve his Tuesday money match with Phil against Spieth/Thomas. He's in form. Okay, mattfl. Got you down for Watson.
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Aug 11, 2015 19:49
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DoctaFun, haven't you played this course a few times? Give us the inside scoop. 
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Aug 11, 2015 19:51
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Kameh posted:Nut up. Fowler just drained a long birdie putt on the last to (eventually) halve his Tuesday money match with Phil against Spieth/Thomas. He's in form. Fine. Down for Fowler. (loving Spieth is gonna win, isn't he?)
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DJExile posted:DoctaFun, haven't you played this course a few times? Give us the inside scoop. Unfortunately I haven't . I was going to play it a few years ago on my way home from Chicago, but then I looked at the greens fees! It's seriously the same price as Pebble Beach when you factor in a caddie. My expert opinion is that it looks like a fun course and I think they have sheep or something that roam around eating the grass, which is pretty neat.
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Kameh posted:Nut up. Fowler just drained a long birdie putt on the last to (eventually) halve his Tuesday money match with Phil against Spieth/Thomas. He's in form. Woo! Ok Bubba, try and keep your head case outbursts to a minimum.
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