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thechosenone
Mar 20, 2009


are there any new improvements in windows 10? like does anything run faster? Also, is there anything now integrated into the operating system that wasn't before (such as how newer versions of windows can open zip files)? any programs that come with windows like media player or something would count for me.

I'm just curious as to any such developments.

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BattleCattle
May 11, 2014



Starts faster than 7 for me. The quad-screen snapping and digital desktops are really handy. Cortana would play music just by asking, but she's still sulking.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.

Fun Shoe

thechosenone posted:

are there any new improvements in windows 10? like does anything run faster? Also, is there anything now integrated into the operating system that wasn't before (such as how newer versions of windows can open zip files)? any programs that come with windows like media player or something would count for me.

I'm just curious as to any such developments.

There are a few marginal performance improvements (boot time, small FPS gains in some games) but otherwise no. The new features are basically Cortana which is a weird voice assistant named after a halo character that no one is going to actually use in six months and task view which is virtual desktops, a few niche users might check that one out. DirectX 12 but no real DX12 games yet. Edge can read PDF files and poo poo like that but its useless without an extension API.

It's Windows as you already know it more or less. So don't go into it expect a big blockbuster feature. The upgrade is free for awhile so that's something. You can put it off for awhile if that's what you're asking.

My Twitter Account
Feb 4, 2003



I'm trying to get Cortana to control VLC.
I managed to get halfway there, by learning that when you tell Cortana to play music, what's happening behind the scenes is that Windows creates a .wpl playlist and opens it in the default player for that file format, which by default is usually Groove. So, theoretically, if I can associate .wpl files with VLC, Cortana will play media in VLC by default.
Here's where I'm stuck. I'm using VLC for Windows Store. It doesn't show up in the list of available programs to associate it with .wpl in the Default Programs control panel. And since it's from Windows Store, it's not installed in a viewable directory, so I can't select it from the file explorer either (I managed to do this with an earlier, non-Windows-Store version of VLC, but I want to use the new modern interface).
How the gently caress do I associate this file type with VLC for Windows Store?

thechosenone
Mar 20, 2009


I heard it has windows defender built in. Is that all one needs, or does one need greater protection than that?

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.

Fun Shoe

thechosenone posted:

I heard it has windows defender built in. Is that all one needs, or does one need greater protection than that?

It depends entirely on your usage habits. No AV will give you protection from clicking yes to things but yeah otherwise most people who are reading a forum like this are probably fine. Let's be honest, most AV software is reactive rather than proactive anyway. Windows Defender can't be permanently disabled without installing another AV, just a FYI. So even if you don't want it, you have to get something else.

BattleCattle
May 11, 2014



thechosenone posted:

I heard it has windows defender built in. Is that all one needs, or does one need greater protection than that?

Defender is okay, but it's bare bones. Fine for regular browsing, but if you plan on downloading dubious things, it is better to have more protection.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


beejay posted:

Regardless, you started off helpful in the last thread and then closer to release and after your replies have pretty much been snarky and non-helpful. I don't expect you to be the resident Microsoft Support guy, and I understand getting a bit defensive about your company and becoming annoyed, but perhaps you should thoughtfully prove people wrong if you're going to talk about these things at all.
Fair point. I should make it clear, I'm not here to defend MS or Windows 10 (and I don't speak for MIcrosoft, nor ever will.) As to the snark, I will concede that it sure can look that way -- and that probably is because it's pretty difficult to take anyone comparing Windows 10 to the Third Reich seriously without mocking how crazy it is. If people want to delve in that, hey more power to them.

I think I've been pretty clear that I'm just a privacy conscious as the next person, and really as for default settings for 10, about the only thing I disagree with is the Ad ID setting. The rest, in my opinion, is really a non issue. Especially as most of those settings and functionality have been there for years now.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

Heh new nvidia WHQL driver.

(Geforce Experience notified me of it first to download but then I turned off download drivers from MS so don't know if it will show up in Windows Update)

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.

Fun Shoe

Lowtechs posted:

Heh new nvidia WHQL driver.

(Geforce Experience notified me of it first to download but then I turned off download drivers from MS so don't know if it will show up in Windows Update)

You can do this now? Where/How? I really don't want device drivers from Windows Update.

quote:

Fair point. I should make it clear, I'm not here to defend MS or Windows 10 (and I don't speak for MIcrosoft, nor ever will.) As to the snark, I will concede that it sure can look that way -- and that probably is because it's pretty difficult to take anyone comparing Windows 10 to the Third Reich seriously without mocking how crazy it is.

Pretty sure that person was just being sarcastic.

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

The Gunslinger posted:

You can do this now? Where/How? I really don't want device drivers from Windows Update.


Pretty sure that person was just being sarcastic.

Go to the old control panel and select Devices and Printers then right click on the icon for your computer and select Device Installation Settings.

I think it was ThermoPhysical who posted about it first.

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart

Masonic Youth posted:

I'm trying to get Cortana to control VLC.
I managed to get halfway there, by learning that when you tell Cortana to play music, what's happening behind the scenes is that Windows creates a .wpl playlist and opens it in the default player for that file format, which by default is usually Groove. So, theoretically, if I can associate .wpl files with VLC, Cortana will play media in VLC by default.
Here's where I'm stuck. I'm using VLC for Windows Store. It doesn't show up in the list of available programs to associate it with .wpl in the Default Programs control panel. And since it's from Windows Store, it's not installed in a viewable directory, so I can't select it from the file explorer either (I managed to do this with an earlier, non-Windows-Store version of VLC, but I want to use the new modern interface).
How the gently caress do I associate this file type with VLC for Windows Store?

From reddit I got this.
To change Cortana's default music player (to replace Groove Music with another player of your choice)
Open Default Programs
Click Associate a file type.....
Find wpl file extension & change its program to the player of your choice

But I just created a new text document, renamed to .wpl, right clicked and opened with VLC setting it as the default program for wpl.

My first go with it I started
me: Hey Cortana, play Shiina Ringo
Cortana: Revolting Cocks - Linger Ficken Good

Close but no cigar.


e: this is with straight VLC not from the windows store
e2: crap i somehow missed the part where you did this, nevermind
e3:

to make this a real post twice now my laptop has come out of sleep with no access to the taskbar. From start button over to the notifications. My only option was right clicking on the start button to log out and start over.

OgNar fucked around with this message at Aug 13, 2015 around 23:43

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT BEING A NEO-LIBERAL DEATH CULT APOLOGIST!


Magnus Praeda posted:

They didn't have warrants. They didn't even inform Congress they were doing it.

I know. I'm saying that, in principle, letting governments have backdoor access is not a problem.

Magnus Praeda
Jul 18, 2003
The largess in the land.

The Iron Rose posted:

I know. I'm saying that, in principle, letting governments have backdoor access is not a problem.

This isn't D&D, but yes, there's many issues with letting governments (or anyone) have backdoor access. Just from a technical perspective one huge problem is that it can be exploited. A government agency acting without approval or oversight (as has happened) is only one possible scenario. Any "backdoor", regardless of who supposedly holds the key, can be discovered and exploited to run malicious code or steal data or who knows what.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


The Gunslinger posted:

Pretty sure that person was just being sarcastic.
You'd be surprised at how serious some people are with it. Though on the comedy forum somethingawful.com, I would expect snark, jokes, etc to come with the territory and even be expected.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


The Iron Rose posted:

I know. I'm saying that, in principle, letting governments have backdoor access is not a problem.
I disagree with this.

xamphear
Apr 9, 2002

SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Lowtechs posted:

Go to the old control panel and select Devices and Printers then right click on the icon for your computer and select Device Installation Settings.

I think it was ThermoPhysical who posted about it first.

Doesn't work. Or at least it's not consistent or guaranteed. I've seen some people say it works, but plenty more saying that they're still getting drivers (myself included). I've had all 7 PCs in the house set to disabled and they're all still pulling drivers.

xylo posted:

I disagree with this.

I agree with this.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005



Pillbug

e: wait! I just realized! nobody wants a privacy debate in this thread!

Lowtechs
Jan 12, 2001


Grimey Drawer

xamphear posted:

Doesn't work. Or at least it's not consistent or guaranteed. I've seen some people say it works, but plenty more saying that they're still getting drivers (myself included). I've had all 7 PCs in the house set to disabled and they're all still pulling drivers.


I agree with this.

Gah that sucks.

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



If you're like me and prefer a vertical taskbar, but want it really narrow, 7+ Taskbar Tweaker is now out of alpha and can be downloaded without being forced to donate.

Also the latest WinAero Tweaker lets you enable the Aero Lite theme which has coloured titlebars without the bugginess of the other method.

Now if I can just find a way to move the start button to the bottom of the taskbar and things will be perfect.

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I have saws for hands and am given to whimsy.

BattleCattle posted:

Ah! Cortana stopped responding when I yelled at her through my microphone. I think I may have hurt her feelings.

Anyway, is there a way to get her to set a timer? Tried to cook a pizza for 22 minutes, she just sent me to google.

The closest thing she'll do for you right out of the box is "Set an alarm for (x) minutes from now." Since it's an alarm, it even gives you a snooze button in the notifications.

I made the transition last night. After reading about all the painless upgrades, mine just had to be one of the ones that was ugly as mud soup. For awhile, it was like sitting up with a sick friend.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

I have a flash stopwatch program that I downloaded a thousand years ago, it can do a pizza timer. Pretty cool stuff.

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008



Ham Wrangler

Oh god, my mom upgraded to windows 10 because it asked her to. "Why can't I log in to my Facebook or email? Where did all my passwords go?" Whhhhhhyyyyyy

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Angela Christine posted:

Oh god, my mom upgraded to windows 10 because it asked her to. "Why can't I log in to my Facebook or email? Where did all my passwords go?" Whhhhhhyyyyyy

Is she now using Edge instead of whatever browser she used before the upgrade?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008



Ham Wrangler

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Is she now using Edge instead of whatever browser she used before the upgrade?

She tried using edge, yes. Unfortunately it isn't compatible with her webmail thing. She used IE before, which seems to be gone in windows 10. I got her back into her email so she'd calm down about everything being gone. Then a few minutes later she told me she'd figured out how to roll back to windows 7 on her own.

Everything has been quiet for a while, so I guess it's going well. Or she's left the house on a murder spree. Either way, op success.

WebDog
Jun 14, 2006


Well in the case of accidental updates from clueless family members, keep in mind most of the time their old windows setup will get moved into windows.old where you can fish out Firefox or chrome profiles and copy it in.

No idea how doomed you are regarding Internet Explorer's autocomplete settings - can than even be recovered?

macnbc
Dec 13, 2006

brb, time travelin'


Party Boat posted:

I'm wondering if they tie the hardware ID to your Microsoft account or something.

Apparently not. I haven't tried it myself but I've read about people upgrading using only local accounts (no MS account) and it still activating properly, even after clean install.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

Ten months later the
reactor is started.


Angela Christine posted:

She tried using edge, yes. Unfortunately it isn't compatible with her webmail thing. She used IE before, which seems to be gone in windows 10. I got her back into her email so she'd calm down about everything being gone. Then a few minutes later she told me she'd figured out how to roll back to windows 7 on her own.

Everything has been quiet for a while, so I guess it's going well. Or she's left the house on a murder spree. Either way, op success.
IE is still around, it's just 'hidden' so that people stop using it - you can type Internet Explorer into Start to get a shortcut/launch it.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007


Ghostlight posted:

IE is still around, it's just 'hidden' so that people stop using it - you can type Internet Explorer into Start to get a shortcut/launch it.

Changing the default browser to Edge inside the installer was a really baffling choice - even if it was actually usable as a desktop browser you still run into the issue of 'losing' all your bookmarks and history.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

THE WHIPPED CREAM GENOCIDE BROUHAHA


How good is Windows 10 at synchronizing other services? I always kept my "Google poo poo" and my "Microsoft poo poo" separate. I like to have my contacts, email, calendar, and other such things with Google because I use an Android phone and like to have easy access to that when I'm not in front of a computer and I figured it would be kind of silly to have more than one collection of contacts. At the same time I would like my PC to be able to access those things upfront without having to use a web browser, but it seems up until now I never really had that option(?). Mail and Calendar seem to communicate with it just fine. It even correctly imported my Gmail labels! Though I'm a bit disappointed in Mail because it doesn't seem to have a lot of features (such as "unread first" ).

I also loathe Google Docs and prefer to use Office for literally everything Office does and last I remember the OneDrive (then SkyDrive) Android app was absolute trash a few years ago and I could never retrieve my files from it.

I'd love to consolidate everything because I really hate being dependent on two separate services like this, and always have.

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


macnbc posted:

Apparently not. I haven't tried it myself but I've read about people upgrading using only local accounts (no MS account) and it still activating properly, even after clean install.
I upgraded my laptop to W10, activated, then wiped and did a clean install and didn't have any issues, all with no MS account involved at any point.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Mak0rz posted:

I'd love to consolidate everything because I really hate being dependent on two separate services like this, and always have.

I've been in a similar situation but unless something's changed recently and I hadn't heard about it, Google contacts and calendar events still do not sync properly with other services. Google has no interest in compatibility as far as I've seen, and even their little syncing app for desktop Outlook seems to be deprecated.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

THE WHIPPED CREAM GENOCIDE BROUHAHA


isndl posted:

I've been in a similar situation but unless something's changed recently and I hadn't heard about it, Google contacts and calendar events still do not sync properly with other services. Google has no interest in compatibility as far as I've seen, and even their little syncing app for desktop Outlook seems to be deprecated.

Well that's fantastic !

Lum
Aug 13, 2003



The build in mail and calendar apps in Win10 seem to play nice with Google for me, even Lightning for Thunderbird isn't too bad, apart from one really irritating bug.

Techno Remix
Feb 13, 2012



I need to ask a really dumb question that'll probably make me look like an idiot.

I upgraded a few days ago and hadn't noticed until tonight, but my CD/DVD drive is completely missing from my device manager. No yellow exclamation point indicating it's not working, it's just completely disappeared. I tried downloading the drivers from ASUS' website but they told me I already had the most updated driver. The tray still opens and closes and I can hear the disc spinning in the tray when I close it, but nothing comes up and I can't even see a D: drive in my File Explorer.

My Google skills are really weak right now and all I can gather is that this was a problem with upgrading from 7 to 8.1 but I went straight from 7 to 10 and I have no idea what the best way to fix it is. Anyone else run into this?

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

The Win10 ones may have improvements to make them work, I haven't tried those yet. The Win8 calendar definitely didn't, the mail app did but had some weird quirks that I can't remember off the top of my head.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

THE WHIPPED CREAM GENOCIDE BROUHAHA


Lum posted:

The build in mail and calendar apps in Win10 seem to play nice with Google for me, even Lightning for Thunderbird isn't too bad, apart from one really irritating bug.

isndl posted:

The Win10 ones may have improvements to make them work, I haven't tried those yet. The Win8 calendar definitely didn't, the mail app did but had some weird quirks that I can't remember off the top of my head.

Two-way synchronization seems to work fine after fiddling with it a bit. I kind of like the Calendar app, but Mail is kind of a pain to use right now because I'm too hooked on Gmail's layout.

How is (Android) phone syncronization via the Phone Companion for photos and other files? I'd be okay with something like that working because I really loving hate Google+ and photos and all of Google's other awful social networking services.

Mak0rz fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2015 around 04:08

dissss
Nov 10, 2007


Photos has been separated from G+ now.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

THE WHIPPED CREAM GENOCIDE BROUHAHA


dissss posted:

Photos has been separated from G+ now.

You know I knew about that for a long time but only now just noticed the Photos folder in Drive

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hooah
Feb 6, 2006
WTF?

hooah posted:

I was typing up a review for an app from the Store, and discovered that ctrl+backspace is the same as the back button, rather than deleting the last word. Is there any way to fix this absolutely stupid thing? And where else should I expect to be surprised by it?

hooah posted:

I don't think this happened for a day or two after upgrading my desktop to 10, but now whenever it resumes from hibernation, I first get a notification asking what I want to do with the device in the G drive, then get this window:



G is the first available letter for my computer's drives, and I don't have any extra hardware plugged in. I do have a USB cable that I leave in for my phone, but this happens regardless of whether my phone is actually connected or not.

In addition to these two issues, I've also noticed that occasionally I'll have a notification that my Outlook account needs to be updated, or something along those lines. When I click on it, the Calendar app opens for a few seconds, then goes away, without me interacting with it. What's this about?

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