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xylo
Feb 21, 2007


D. Ebdrup posted:

Microsoft often keeps at least one connection alive
WNS / Push notifications.

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xylo
Feb 21, 2007


D. Ebdrup posted:

Sure, but my point is that if you're you can't know what else is sent over that established connection, unless you monitor it yourself 24/7.
How do people deal with monitoring push notifications on mobile devices on Android or iOS... wait. Wow we're all at risk and didn't even know it. Hey OP please add this info to page two.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


The Gunslinger posted:

I can't even make stupid tinfoil hat jokes because ironically Microsoft is a company who has backdoored their own software for governments in the past.
That sounds pretty bad. Can you post the details/link the source?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


beejay posted:

Regardless, you started off helpful in the last thread and then closer to release and after your replies have pretty much been snarky and non-helpful. I don't expect you to be the resident Microsoft Support guy, and I understand getting a bit defensive about your company and becoming annoyed, but perhaps you should thoughtfully prove people wrong if you're going to talk about these things at all.
Fair point. I should make it clear, I'm not here to defend MS or Windows 10 (and I don't speak for MIcrosoft, nor ever will.) As to the snark, I will concede that it sure can look that way -- and that probably is because it's pretty difficult to take anyone comparing Windows 10 to the Third Reich seriously without mocking how crazy it is. If people want to delve in that, hey more power to them.

I think I've been pretty clear that I'm just a privacy conscious as the next person, and really as for default settings for 10, about the only thing I disagree with is the Ad ID setting. The rest, in my opinion, is really a non issue. Especially as most of those settings and functionality have been there for years now.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


The Gunslinger posted:

Pretty sure that person was just being sarcastic.
You'd be surprised at how serious some people are with it. Though on the comedy forum somethingawful.com, I would expect snark, jokes, etc to come with the territory and even be expected.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


The Iron Rose posted:

I know. I'm saying that, in principle, letting governments have backdoor access is not a problem.
I disagree with this.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Dogen posted:

The most recent build of W10 if you're on the insider fast ring totally fucks up the x64 branch, if you install x86 it works. Don't really see that as Chrome's fault.
Sometimes it's not as black and white as that. In this instance you can read this for details. Basically Chrome was doing stuff to prevent people from hooking into Chrome's processes which ended up not working after some things they assume to be true changed.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


WattsvilleBlues posted:

How do you get the title bar to reflect the accent colour?
Settings -> Personalization -> Colors -> Show color on Start, taskbar, and action center.

Unfocused window will be grey, focused will be accent. Some bad windows will not honor this still.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Lum posted:

At the risk of turning this into a post your desktop thread, I think I have sufficiently undone all of Win10s awfulness, and can now just enjoy the good stuff under the hood.


I thought that was some Ubuntu desktop shot for a second. Glad you were able to get it customized like you wanted.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Tornhelm posted:

I know it's a couple of pages back, but have you tried doing a refresh on that system after the upgrade? I was having issues where System was growing massive and out of control after a while of being on making the rest of the computer perform sluggishly. I did a reset and now the performance is more like what I'd usually expect and my "System" ram usage isn't jumping ridiculously.
"System" process growing in ram is 99% likely to be the compressed store which is normal. If it was using a bunch but the system was sluggish you might have really been out of all mappable ram (page file, compressed store, and physical) at which point things get really message as the system juggles what to do. The latter I've had happen when something was running away in a Firefox process (something flash related in the plugin container I think) which chewed up ram. The VMM then compressed what it could but it started to choke from ram starvation over time (until I killed the plugin container and everything magic zipped to normal).

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


ViggyNash posted:

Ia anyone else here having that system process memory leak issue? My process is hovering around 2gb right now. Reading around, it seems to be affecting people that upgraded from 8.1/7 to 10. No one can decide if it's a driver issue or a malware issue or a registry issue. Maybe none of those.
Read up a few posts or just read this

quote:

Memory Manager Improvements:

In Windows 10, we have added a new concept in the Memory Manager called a compression store, which is an in-memory collection of compressed pages. This means that when Memory Manager feels memory pressure, it will compress unused pages instead of writing them to disk. This reduces the amount of memory used per process, allowing Windows 10 to maintain more applications in physical memory at a time. This also helps provide better responsiveness across Windows 10. The compression store lives in the System process’s working set. Since the system process holds the store in memory, its working set grows larger exactly when memory is being made available for other processes. This is visible in Task Manager and the reason the System process appears to be consuming more memory than previous releases.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


redeyes posted:

Funny thing, about 4-6 months before RTM, some of the insider builds were far far better than the RTM when we are talking the start menu.
This can be a pretty common event. Basically what happens is you have a stable base (Win8.1). You branch and start Win10. You start the insider builds -- at this point it's mostly Win8 renamed Win10 and some minor bits and pieces changed. Some prototype stuff gets merged in to get the feedback/testing loop going - it's mostly stable. Real long term code/refactoring gets done with massive amounts of churn. Features merge into the top level branches. Things are less stable as these new features/refactoring come in as there are bugs. Bugs then get fixes and quality goes back up over time.

Note I'm not saying it's acceptable to have bad bugs, just that this type of cycle is very common. Believe it or not, what you're seeing right now with Windows 10 (stable, broken, really broken, broken, stable) is the exact same thing that happened with every Windows release that I can remember. It's just that most people didn't see this because there was no insider program. Even more so, many of you still won't see some of the really egregiously broken things as we stop them at our first internal fast ring (and believe me there have been some doozies on that one.)

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Guillermus posted:

I've done this going from an Intel SSD to a Samsung Evo with no issues at all. It's a great tool.
I used this on my daughters computer when I put an SSD in it. However, it didn't do a straight clone -- it actually ended up shrinking the reserve partition which then caused Windows 10 updates to fail. I had to get another tool to resize the partitions to get it all sorted out. Everything else on the windows partition worked fine.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Phobophilia posted:

There is something seriously wrong with my W10 laptop, I'm getting the 100% disk utilisation error at all times outside safe mode. It is almost completely unresponsive. I've tried the usual fixes, I've disabled superfetch, Wsearch, and background intelligent transfer service. No luck. Nothing detected through windows defender or Microsoft safety scanner.

Could it be a problem with the pagefile, or Windows update, or some 3rd party driver?
Open up resource monitor, switch the disk tab, open up the middle pane (disk activity), sort by total b/s descending. Find out what's causing all the IO that way.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Phobophilia posted:

http://imgur.com/a/81taX

Phone pic of this, only reliable method right now.

Nothing stands out
Expand the middle pane in the disk tab, sort by bytes there and then response time. What about the bottom pane (storage)? Does it show high activity time% / queue load for the drive you're having issues with ?

The fact that resource monitor shows little to no disk time and taskman shows 99% is odd. Did you sort decending on disk for taskmanager?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


GreenNight posted:

On all the Windows 10 builds, I could hit the start button, start typing and poo poo would appear. Now nothing appears with the latest build. Anyone else experience this?
index may be rebuilding. seems to do every update. how long since you upgraded?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

Microsoft is going to reorganise the Windows group, again, after RS5 is out the door.

Windows group hasn't existed since Terry left.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/Wi...new-wip-at-home

To

http://www.windowscentral.com/Windo...one-5-changelog

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


mystes posted:

Are they ever going to release sets to non-insider builds?
If they can make it not bad I'm sure they will.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


bigis posted:

The disk cleanup changes suggests I shouldn�t be using the Downloads folder as a permanent storage location? Should I move my videos/etc out of there?
Many years ago when I was working at a dial-up ISP, we had a free install service where some poor shmuck (me) would drive out to a customers place and install the dial-up software for them.

I did an install one time where I went to some business that a lady ran. I installed the software, shower here what to click on to connect etc. Later that day we got a support call asking where her files for he business were. You see, she stored all her "completed business files" for the last two years in the recycle bin. That way she could reuse them if she needed (because recycling was good). Of course she blamed us and configuring of the dial up network.

She was very mad.

Point being yeah downloads isn't the place to store things you want to keep. Move them to a new folder and if you want assign it as a library location for videos.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Klyith posted:

I just opened the weather app to make a screenshot to reply with, and now my live tile doesn't work anymore. It was fine before.

whaaaaat the fuuuuck


UWP is such a dumpster fire

yeah the tiles broken. uwp does a lot of things right and a lot of things dumb. in this case it's nothing to do with uwp though.

i looked up the bug and it has to do with .net where passing IEnumerable<System.Uri> would result in an exception which of course was unhandled. fixed merged into main today. should be in build 18326 or later (or whenever if they update the app via the store I guess?)

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


redeyes posted:

So... is deal with Retpoline something that manually has to be done?
if you just take updates normally you just end up getting it (and enabled if possible) automatically. I checked around 18850 and it was already on there for me. Still is as of 18855.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Truga posted:

yeah i tried literally everything under the sun and then poo poo from the 10th page of google and nothing worked. when I run MCT I just hit update, it throws the exact same error. creating the media and trying to update from that too. only thing left to try now is unplug all the disks except windows ssd and try again.

i'm not particularly worried either way tho since the only thing that happens on this box is playing games, and i'll be reinstalling windows when i upgrade my pc later this year anyway..
Did you already do the SFC cycle just to make sure nothing is hosed (sfc /scannow)?

Can you explain where it exactly it fails? Is it like from the windows update panel, you click download and it does the download and the pre install and fails with the error code there? Or does the reboot start and the install fails at the blue update screen?

If it gets to the install step, do you have the setup logs? (check c:\$windows.bt\sources\panther\setuperr.log [or whatever your os drive letter is])

Are you a windows insider? Could also help to capture advanced diagnostics (feedback hub->advanced diag->default diag/install and update/windows update/windows update (default)->start capture. Then submit a feedback report and link the details here so I can try and ping someone internally for a hint to get you unstuck.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

I wonder how Chromium Edge will work in regards to DRM video, like Netflix et al. Because Chrome enjoys all that fancy 1080p and 4K content so far.
Just tried it. Worked fine.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

Beyond 720p? Did Microsoft implement a new rendering backend with appropriate protections that satisfies Netflix? Because they sure don't seem to be content with Widevine on Chrome or Firefox.
Dunno really. Set it to the highest setting in the account profile and it took all my bandwidth (16mb) playing stuff. I don't see how I can say "play only 1080p" from the settings.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Combat Pretzel posted:

CTRL-ALT-SHIFT-D shows an overlay with debug info. There's a Playing Bitrate line that also shows current streaming resolution. Max bandwidth might just have been prebuffering.
Thanks. It's showing 1080p.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


fishmech posted:

About what?
he's trying to poke you because of the killing off of "seeker" updates -- it won't be immedate anymore but will still before forced when the EOL is hit.


also if anyone cares: https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/download/. It's actually pretty decent. but then again, the original releases of edge weren't either until they somehow messed that up.

xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Hipster_Doofus posted:

"Postpone for 24 hours. This computer is currently in use."
This exists but it's for 7 days by default. You can change it to be lower.

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xylo
Feb 21, 2007


Hipster_Doofus posted:

Even when there's


?

It's not cancel but a pause. Last time I tired it work on a pending update as well.

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