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#### Chatrapati posted:

2A
I'd like the option to skip Interesting Times if it would be more interesting for our character to definitely succeed. As it is, failing or struggling in school could be fun.
Interesting time only adds complication to success and make it worst for failure, so it's exactly what you wanted.

 Lurks With Wolves Jan 14, 2013 At least I don't dance with them, right? B) Nick name/title, people can call me for what I deserve. Currently, ‘Filial Child’. C) ALWAYS INTERESTING TIME! I agree with Chatrapati about not necessarily wanting things to get more complicated every time we roll Interesting Times, but it'd be easier for Nyaa to write good complications if we don't have to pause every time we roll Interesting Times to confirm it. Anyway, since I technically volunteered to explain some mechanics earlier, I might as well do that. Note that these are the default rules for the RPG and Nyaa could very well change any of them to work better for this format. Dice Rolling We have two sets of dice, the River and the Lake. The Lake is the number of d10s we roll, we look for sets of numbers, the number of dice in the set determines the tens place, the number on the dice determines the ones place, we've already been over this. But what if we roll a second set with our Lake? If we do that*, we can take dice from that set and put them into our River. Once a die's in the River, we can add it back into our Lake on a later roll. For example, say we have a 6 in our River and roll 1 4 5 6 6 8. Normally that roll would give us one set of 26, but we can bring that 6 in our River in and have a total of 36. Note that the River automatically drains at the end of each scene, so use it or lose it. In any case, since we're currently a mere student and thus 5th Rank, we have 6 dice in our Lake unless something explicitly changes that and can hold a single die in our River. *Well, on any roll that has someone rolling against it. Otherwise you'd have people making a bunch of pointless skill checks before fights to fill up their River. On the subject of things that change the number of dice we roll, it's a good time to mention Joss Joss is your luck, plain and simple. Chivalrous Joss comes from accomplishing Chivalrous Virtues and taking Interesting Times on a successful roll and can be spent to give you good luck, Malicious Joss comes from Selfish Virtues and taking Interesting Times on a failed roll and is spent to give your enemies bad luck. These lead to roughly the same place mechanically, but the methods are still different. Anyway, the three things you can spend Joss on: -Changing the number of dice in someone's Lake. Spend Chivalrous Joss to increase the number of dice in your Lake by an amount equal to the amount of joss you spend for one turn, spend Malicious Joss to lower the number of dice in the Lake of anyone rolling against you for the next round. -Have a minor-but-useful coincidence happen. Want a tree to be right next to the window of the house you're trying to break into? Spend some joss. -Whatever uses for joss you learn from loresheets. For example, a Daoist can spend a point of Chivalrous Joss to make sure someone will give them a meal and a place to stay for the night or a point of Malicious Joss to be able to ignore the ill effects of sleeping outside in the rain on an empty stomach. In any case, that's all the unnecessary mechanics chat for now. You can now go back to your regularly scheduled CYOA voting. # ? Aug 29, 2015 01:21
 Slightly Lions Apr 13, 2009 BC. # ? Aug 29, 2015 04:15
 AnAnonymousIdiot Sep 14, 2013 Earned is our name, and let us live in interesting times for school. # ? Aug 29, 2015 07:11
 Bee Bonk Feb 19, 2011 BC. The best wuxia names are earned, and we will live in interesting times and thrive through adversity. # ? Aug 29, 2015 13:13
 hectorgrey Oct 14, 2011 BA - I'd prefer to have the choice of when to add complications. # ? Aug 29, 2015 13:31
 Nyaa Jan 7, 2010 Q.E.D. Always interesting time win, but I won't offer it if I can't think of something interesting. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event + Interesting Time – School --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The first day of class was… Interesting. Your teacher Know Fuu began the course with basic poetry for the class to repeats a few times, and then he hand picks a few students to try reciting the whole poem. “I am sad the… Umm…Red…” Baba Tong, the name of the bulky boy, is struggling to recite the poem. Know Fuu shakes his head, “Not even the first sentence. Are you paying attention at all, little Tong?” “The poem is too hard.” Baba complaints. Lightly tapping Baba’s head with a rolled up book, Know Fuu said, “Nonsense, the poem of Bai Juyi uses very simple language and it’s particularly accessible for the beginner.” He turns to the oily haired boy, “Why don’t you give it a try, Mr. Li Foil.” Proudly, Li Foil rise from his seat and sung the poem with emotion and grace. “I'm saddened by the peonies before the steps, so red, As evening came I found that only two remained. Once morning blown away by the wind, surely it won’t survive…” “That’s incorrect.” Know Fuu said with a smile. “Although your disappointed expression now are quite suitable for the tragic tone of the poem.” He concluded. Then surveying the class, his eyes land on you. “Maybe the Filial Child can recite in a similar tragic tenor?” You stand up with confident that you have memorized the poem perfectly, but you never recite a poem in public before. Nonetheless, you try your best to recite the poem with feeling and grace. Inspire: 4 7 6 10 4 7 Result: 24 or 27 I'm saddened by the peonies before the steps, so red, As evening came I found that only two remained Once morning's winds have blown, they surely won't survive, At night I gaze by lamplight, to cherish the fading red. Your father did his fatherly duty well. You sung the poem with the right emotion and tonal passion. It’s actually your father’s favorite poem that he recites whenever he looks at the blossom orchard flower. It make you sad when you recite it, which empowered the recital to another degree of tragedy. Know Fuu and the whole classes applause your wonderful performance and effort. The poem touched the heart of everyone in the class… Well, except Li Foil. He looks at you with jealousy and envy. --------------------------------------------------------- On your way to school the next day, Li and Baba intercepted you halfway toward your destination. Li, using the bull-like might of Baba, demand you to perform less spectacular in class so he will shine more among his peers. Baba picks up two bricks and crushes them together a few times to pulverize them, making a point of the threat. You… A) Fight Baba B) Bribe Baba C) Treat Li with respect, assuring him that he is the best and you got lucky D) RUN HOME E) RUN TO SCHOOL F) Push them down to the ground G) Write-in I decided to only offer choices that matches your virtue (3 points or higher) from now on. Think of it as a high stat dialogue unlock that might or might not be the best choice. Use write-in if you want to do something else. Nyaa fucked around with this message at Aug 29, 2015 around 23:15 # ? Aug 29, 2015 23:09

#### Nyaa posted:

On your way to school the next day, Li and Baba intercepted you halfway toward your destination. Li, using the bull-like might of Baba, demand you to perform less spectacular in class so he will shine more among his peers. Baba picks up two bricks and crushes them together a few times to pulverize them, making a point of the threat.

You…

A) Fight Baba
B) Bribe Baba
C) Treat Li with respect, assuring him that he is the best and you got lucky
D) RUN HOME
E) RUN TO SCHOOL
F) Push them down to the ground
G) Write-in

G: C, but with a twist. Treat Li with respect, compliment Baba on his strength, admit that we learned the poem previously from our father and felt great emotion repeating it so soon after his death. Offer to study with the two of them in future.

 Abyssal Squid Jul 23, 2003 "I even think "Medicare for all" is pretty bad policy...I say that as a Medicaid recipient" (Fuck you, got mine.) G) Offer to tutor them over a bowl of noodles # ? Aug 29, 2015 23:29
 Outrail Jan 4, 2009 www.sapphicrobotica.com You pussies. C. But then continue to outshine them. When they realize we're loving with them try and arrange it so Mr. Miagi sees it all so you can get them kicked out of the school. # ? Aug 30, 2015 00:50

#### A Terrible Person posted:

G: C, but with a twist. Treat Li with respect, compliment Baba on his strength, admit that we learned the poem previously from our father and felt great emotion repeating it so soon after his death. Offer to study with the two of them in future.

This one, lets try and make friends! If it works then we have powerful allies in the future, if it doesnt we have some neat rivals, both make for intresting stories.

#### A Terrible Person posted:

G: C, but with a twist. Treat Li with respect, compliment Baba on his strength, admit that we learned the poem previously from our father and felt great emotion repeating it so soon after his death. Offer to study with the two of them in future.

This one

 AnAnonymousIdiot Sep 14, 2013 Bribe Baba with Noodles. # ? Aug 30, 2015 12:58
 There Bias Two Jan 13, 2009 Knock them out with our shovel and bury them up to their necks for daring to intimidate us. # ? Aug 30, 2015 13:05

#### A Terrible Person posted:

G: C, but with a twist. Treat Li with respect, compliment Baba on his strength, admit that we learned the poem previously from our father and felt great emotion repeating it so soon after his death. Offer to study with the two of them in future.

This.

#### AnAnonymousIdiot posted:

Bribe Baba with Noodles.

Heh, yeah this

I'm a little sad we didn't get to be a Doctor. How are we supposed to prick someone's Gushing Spring Point now?

I'm a little sad we didn't get to be a Doctor. How are we supposed to prick someone's Gushing Spring Point now?
One of the class is doctor, or you can pick up doctor's secret art from other class later.

We still have mid and high level job later to choose unless we decide to skip those and step into wulin early.

#### A Terrible Person posted:

G: C, but with a twist. Treat Li with respect, compliment Baba on his strength, admit that we learned the poem previously from our father and felt great emotion repeating it so soon after his death. Offer to study with the two of them in future.

G: Perform the A Terrible Person Technique. Transform rivals into allies; we need a big fat strong guy and a sworn brother who may or may not be tragically forced to betray us.

 Nyaa Jan 7, 2010 Q.E.D. We rolled badly on G/C, wanna spend a jose to roll one more dice or some luck thing? # ? Aug 31, 2015 19:12

#### Nyaa posted:

We rolled badly on G/C, wanna spend a jose to roll one more dice or some luck thing?

Joss exists to be spent. May as well spend it.

Also, since Nyaa mentioned the Doctor, I'll have quick summary of the five Archetypes and their secret arts up later.

 SerSpook Feb 13, 2012 Grimey Drawer spend it # ? Aug 31, 2015 19:30
 Mr Apollo Jan 1, 2013 Spend it! # ? Aug 31, 2015 19:35
 Slightly Lions Apr 13, 2009 Spend spend spend # ? Aug 31, 2015 20:05
 Deadmeat5150 Nov 21, 2005 OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN # ? Aug 31, 2015 23:13
 AnAnonymousIdiot Sep 14, 2013 No. Let this develop our legend! # ? Sep 1, 2015 00:21
 Abyssal Squid Jul 23, 2003 "I even think "Medicare for all" is pretty bad policy...I say that as a Medicaid recipient" (Fuck you, got mine.) I voted for Plan Condescend To The Little Bastards hoping they'd reject it and earn a double helping of righteous beatings. Spend it immediately on something else. Yee and yikes, they lunge and charge at us, but we jump out of the way! Oh no they fell through a window??? How could that have happened?! Or if that's the realm of Malicious Joss, something more appropriate for Chivalrous Joss, like we run into a grownup who cares. # ? Sep 1, 2015 00:38

#### Abyssal Squid posted:

Spend it immediately on something else. Yee and yikes, they lunge and charge at us, but we jump out of the way! Oh no they fell through a window??? How could that have happened?! Or if that's the realm of Malicious Joss, something more appropriate for Chivalrous Joss, like we run into a grownup who cares.
Both does the same for the latter for making realistic coincident happen. The differences is Malicious Joss reduce anyone who oppose you for that action for one dice per joss while Chivalrous boost you one dice, and some techniques might require certain joss. We could certainly house rule it to cause fortune that reflects the joss' nature.

Oh, and if you want coincident to happen, the player have to create it.

 Abyssal Squid Jul 23, 2003 "I even think "Medicare for all" is pretty bad policy...I say that as a Medicaid recipient" (Fuck you, got mine.) Lemme rephrase that then. I want to let the current action fail (convincing them that we should be friends) and spend a Joss to add a favorable coincidence to the next one. I want us to be a Mary Sue of a smuglord! # ? Sep 1, 2015 01:49
Dice boost still winning, I will leave it up a bit.

#### Abyssal Squid posted:

and spend a Joss to add a favorable coincidence to the next one. I want us to be a Mary Sue of a smuglord!
Please decides what favorable coincidence you want to happen. Uncle Liu shows up? Baba's dad shows up? A pot hole on a road? An angry cat is nursing its kitten nearby? A cabbage guy is selling cabbage nearby? Unless you want me to surprise* you?

* No guarantee of surprises.

 Abyssal Squid Jul 23, 2003 "I even think "Medicare for all" is pretty bad policy...I say that as a Medicaid recipient" (Fuck you, got mine.) Let's run into Baba' or Li's uncle during DRAMATIC CHASE/FIGHT SCENE. # ? Sep 1, 2015 03:18

#### Xiphopagus posted:

Transform rivals into allies; we need a big fat strong guy and a sworn brother who may or may not be tragically forced to betray us.

The sworn brother also has wealthy parents. Early access to extra spending cash, should we need it.

Also Spend Joss on dice boost.

#### Abyssal Squid posted:

Let's run into Baba' or Li's uncle during DRAMATIC CHASE/FIGHT SCENE.

This too, if we can do both. Ignore this part of the vote if not.

#### A Terrible Person posted:

This too, if we can do both. Ignore this part of the vote if not.
We can. I will ask again if you want to spend another joss

During or after Combat.

Voting closed

 Nyaa Jan 7, 2010 Q.E.D. Persuade Li Foil : 2 4 7 5 6 3 Result: 17 Li Foil Resist: 3 1 4 6 1 Result: 21 You try to explain that poem happens to be your father favorite poem and you feel a greater connection that Li Foil. He points a finger at you with ire, “You saying I have a lesser compatibility for poetry than you!?” “No, no, that’s not what I mean!” You said as you shake your head to denial the accusation. “Then what do you mean?” Li Foil asks, now calmer. Spend Joss (Dice Boost): 9 Result: 19 You try to ease the tension and offer a friendly assistance to your fellow classmate. “I mean we all have something we are especially good at. I’m sure you will be as good as me when I tutor you how to narrate the poem.” Li raises a fist at you, “How dare you compares your beggar intellect with mine! You want to lecture me on a poem!? Not in a million years! Crush him, Baba!” Baba makes a battle cry, "Roooooar!" And begins charging at you with great momentum. BEGIN COMBAT You are far enough to take a minor action before or after he slam into you… 1A) Use skill: Minor things like look around, make a speech, throw something accuracy, catch a falling vase, etc 1B) Shaping: Write-In plan to shape the environment to your advantage. It probably won’t be done until Baba slam into you unless it’s a quick or simple task. 1C) Move to another zone to avoid his attack. (Jump/climb the wall to someone’s property, go downslope, keep running back to delay the attack, etc) 1D) Write-in Minor action 1E) Save your time to better prepare for later actions Assuming you didn’t escape the clutch of Baba, how will you guard against his bull rush? 2A) Dodge 2B) Block/Deflect What do you do after his attack? 3A) Disorient: Write-in fluff to debuff your opponent’s certain skill check until he cures it. Ex: Throw sand on his eyes to lower his Awareness. 3B) Disrupt: Write-in fluff to debuff your opponent’s certain combat stat until he cures it. Ex:Try to trip him and make him wary of his Footwork. 3C) Knockback: Force the opponent into another zone 3D) Save your focus for later and attack normally 3E) Retreat, you will be late for school 3F) Surrender, you will promise to do as Li said and suffer a moral penalty if you break it (You could try to sidestep the condition) 3G) Write-in Note: Disorient/Disrupt/Knockback are part of an attack, so you will be dealing damage while doing those fluffs. Nyaa fucked around with this message at Sep 1, 2015 around 22:43 # ? Sep 1, 2015 22:34
 Hot Dog Day 80 Jun 23, 2003 You are far enough to take a minor action before or after he slam into you… 1D) Taunt him to make him REALLY angry and careless Assuming you didn’t escape the clutch of Baba, how will you guard against his bull rush? 2A) Dodge What do you do after his attack? 3B) Disrupt: Once we dodge him we should attempt to trip and push him at the same time. # ? Sep 1, 2015 22:47

#### Hot Dog Day 80 posted:

You are far enough to take a minor action before or after he slam into you…
1D) Taunt him to make him REALLY angry and careless

Assuming you didn’t escape the clutch of Baba, how will you guard against his bull rush?
2A) Dodge

What do you do after his attack?
3B) Disrupt: Once we dodge him we should attempt to trip and push him at the same time.

yup

 Abyssal Squid Jul 23, 2003 "I even think "Medicare for all" is pretty bad policy...I say that as a Medicaid recipient" (Fuck you, got mine.) 1C) Move to the slope 2A) Dodge 3C/E) Force Baba down the slope, so we can continue on to school (spend Joss to boost chance of success) Baba's a big kid, and big kids are heavy kids. Let him charge at us and when he misses he'll rush past us, and then he'll have to run uphill if he wants to catch up. Trip the guy so he rolls downhill, if it comes to that. # ? Sep 2, 2015 00:21

#### Hot Dog Day 80 posted:

You are far enough to take a minor action before or after he slam into you…
1D) Taunt him to make him REALLY angry and careless

Assuming you didn’t escape the clutch of Baba, how will you guard against his bull rush?
2A) Dodge

What do you do after his attack?
3B) Disrupt: Once we dodge him we should attempt to trip and push him at the same time.

This and then 'im in the teef.

#### Abyssal Squid posted:

1C) Move to the slope

2A) Dodge

3C/E) Force Baba down the slope, so we can continue on to school (spend Joss to boost chance of success)

Baba's a big kid, and big kids are heavy kids. Let him charge at us and when he misses he'll rush past us, and then he'll have to run uphill if he wants to catch up. Trip the guy so he rolls downhill, if it comes to that.

#### Abyssal Squid posted:

1C) Move to the slope

2A) Dodge

3C/E) Force Baba down the slope, so we can continue on to school (spend Joss to boost chance of success)

Baba's a big kid, and big kids are heavy kids. Let him charge at us and when he misses he'll rush past us, and then he'll have to run uphill if he wants to catch up. Trip the guy so he rolls downhill, if it comes to that.

This, but with more of a focus on the shoving down the slope than the running.

Anyway, I've put this off long enough.

Archetypes
The Archetype you choose at character creation determines two things: what skill you use to recover chi, and what Secret Arts you start with for free. Chi recovery isn't really important right now, so let's put that aside. Secret Arts, however, are the main way characters in LotW cause ongoing effects. Specifically, they cause Hyperactivities (you get a bonus when you act like X) and Weaknesses (you take a penalty when you don't act like X). There's more to it than that, but there's no reason to go in-depth about stuff like paired conditions and elemental associations this early.

In any case, here are the archetypes.

Warriors know fighting and are the most common archetype for obvious reasons. Their Secret Art is the simplest one here, but don't think that that makes them weak. They can train in a combat style, which then gives them a Hyperactivity tied to fighting in that combat style for at least the rest of the chapter. Warriors can learn how to do things like copy an enemy's combat style along with the Hyperactivity they get from it, but overall the Warrior's main strength is having a strong, reliable bonus they can always rely on.

Priests know the esoteric nature of chi and know the art of Daoist sorcery, even though they aren't necessarily Daoist themselves. Their Secret Art is concerned with curses and influences. Curses and influences are external representations of the inner turmoils represented by the passions and inspirations that Courtiers deal in. For example, the Phoenix Maiden has a hateful Passion towards the man who killed her father. A Priest can use that passion to place a curse on the man who killed her father, and so that curse will fade when Maiden's anger towards him fades. I don't need to sell any of you on how interesting cursing people could be, do I?

Courtiers know people and how to manipulate them. As I mentioned earlier, their Secret Art is primarily concerned with passions and inspirations. Passions are springs of emotion; joy, anger, grief. Inspirations guide you towards acting with principles; towards persevering despite the odds, or towards caring about others. Courtiers can learn to inflame passions, to redirect passions towards more useful ends, to inspire their defeated foes towards more proper courses of action and far more besides.

Scholars know everything, and how to apply that knowledge to predict what will happen. Their Secret Art is the only one that can never be used in combat, and for good reason. Scholars are the Archetype that can look at a crime scene and say with certainty that the thief will return to the scene of the crime tonight, that can look at a battlefield and say that General Wei is too proud to attack his foe's flank and is thus doomed to lose this battle. They can say this because their predictions are a condition placed on the world itself, and the weight of that prediction will remain until is changed so greatly that the prediction can't apply. I'm a fan of Scholars, if you couldn't tell.

Doctors know the human body and what makes it tick. As you could probably guess, their Secret Art deals with chi imbalances and the means in which you soothe or inflame them. Want to correct the chi imbalance giving your companion a hacking cough? A Doctor can do that. Want to hit your enemy in their Gushing Spring Point and halt the flow of their chi? A Doctor can do that too, and far more.

Of course, there's far more to all of these arts than what I've mentioned here, but this post is just a hint at what's to come. Going into full detail would just be overkill.