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Radio Spiricom posted:I've seen something like 45 Fords, some of my favorite Fords are not Westerns (7 Women, How Green Was My Valley, The Long Voyage Home, Donovan's Reef, The Quiet Man, The Long Gray Line, They Were Expendable, Young Mr. Lincoln) it's absolutely overwhelming, not just how many films he made, but how many good films he made. But I think Wagon Master is absolutely his best Western, his most beautiful and most human, and, while I think calling Ford "poetic" is played out, his most poetic. And the best John Ford Western is probably the best overall Western ever made. Honorable mentions to Two Rode Together, Cheyenne Autumn, Fort Apache, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, Rio Grande, and naturally Stagecoach, The Searchers, and My Darling Clementine Young Mr. Lincoln is really good huh? It's on Netflix or Hulu I think, been on my queue for a few weeks now, maybe I should finally check it out.
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I don't really agree with it ideologically, it's basically hagiography, the story of Lincoln as a Superhero Origin Story, but it is one of his best directed movies and Fonda's performance is outstanding. Also it has a cool mouth harp.
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Radio Spiricom posted:I've seen something like 45 Fords, some of my favorite Fords are not Westerns (7 Women, How Green Was My Valley, The Long Voyage Home, Donovan's Reef, The Quiet Man, The Long Gray Line, They Were Expendable, Young Mr. Lincoln) it's absolutely overwhelming, not just how many films he made, but how many good films he made. But I think Wagon Master is absolutely his best Western, his most beautiful and most human, and, while I think calling Ford "poetic" is played out, his most poetic. And the best John Ford Western is probably the best overall Western ever made. Honorable mentions to Two Rode Together, Cheyenne Autumn, Fort Apache, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, Rio Grande, and naturally Stagecoach, The Searchers, and My Darling Clementine Just watched Sgt Rutledge, where Woody Strode plays a black First Sergeant in the Cavalry accused of raping and murdering a white woman. Very heavy on the Ford comedy, and Strode's character is like a supporting role in his own movie, with the focus being more on Jeffrey Hunter's defense attorney and his new girlfriend than Sgt Rutledge. Also suffers from all the black people as being just a little too perfect, like they weren't allowed to have flaws since this is a positive portrayal of them. It's really one of those "you're a credit to your people, son" type of movies.
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You guys like 3 Godfathers?
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Raxivace posted:You guys like 3 Godfathers? Yeah, it's awesome.
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Raxivace posted:You guys like 3 Godfathers? I like all three Godfather movies yeah 
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Whoever called Fistful of Dynamite (Duck You Sucker) frustrating because of its views on politics is right but I think it's probably Leone's best movie because of that, as it really rips apart the reality of war and fanaticism. Juan's family are some of the best supporting characters in a western. Also got love for movies like Charlie One-Eye, Cut-Throats Nine, and Boss friend of the family.
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Radio Spiricom posted:I don't really agree with it ideologically, it's basically hagiography, the story of Lincoln as a Superhero Origin Story, but it is one of his best directed movies and Fonda's performance is outstanding. U should check this out http://shotcontext.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-lincoln-myth-on-film.html
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Raxivace posted:You guys like 3 Godfathers? I liked Disco Godfather, haven't seen the other two
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Vegetable posted:Anybody ever see the Japanese version of Unforgiven? I heard it's almost a scene-for-scene remake of the original. I didn't know this existed, probably gonna watch this this weekend
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ruddiger posted:Whoever called Fistful of Dynamite (Duck You Sucker) frustrating because of its views on politics is right but I think it's probably Leone's best movie because of that, as it really rips apart the reality of war and fanaticism. Juan's family are some of the best supporting characters in a western. Cut-Throats Nine is so dope.
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I've recently watched The Searchers and Stagecoach and probably need to watch them again. I didn't think either were anything close to being something deserving of all the praise that they have.
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Would you all consider Kurosawa's Dersu Uzala to be a western? It's got a lot of the same themes I see in westerns (Nation building, man vs. nature, destruction of native inhabitants and their way of life by incoming settlers etc.), but it's in Siberia.
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Raxivace posted:Would you all consider Kurosawa's Dersu Uzala to be a western? It's got a lot of the same themes I see in westerns (Nation building, man vs. nature, destruction of native inhabitants and their way of life by incoming settlers etc.), but it's in Siberia. The Russians call films featuring the transposition of the classic Western themes to the trans-Urals "Easterns" so I guess, being from Japan, Dersu Uzala is a Soba Eastern
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metallicaeg posted:I've recently watched The Searchers and Stagecoach and probably need to watch them again. I didn't think either were anything close to being something deserving of all the praise that they have. Just out of curiosity, if you don't like those two, what are a few Westerns you do like?
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DeimosRising posted:The Russians call films featuring the transposition of the classic Western themes to the trans-Urals "Easterns" so I guess, being from Japan, Dersu Uzala is a Soba Eastern Wasn't Dersu Uzala a Soviet-Japanese co-production? I think that would make it a straight up Eastern.
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I caught Wagon Master off of TCM today and drat is it a fun movie. Practically every shot is just beautiful to look at too. If you like Ford's other westerns and haven't seen this one, make a point of checking it out.LORD OF BOOTY posted:Wasn't Dersu Uzala a Soviet-Japanese co-production? I think that would make it a straight up Eastern.
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Saw Johnny Guitar on gorg 35mm friday and it was pretty wonderful. 1) Joan Crawford is a goddamn revelation and I need to see more of her. 2) The ending was so lovably silly and 50's hollywood. So, after Joan Crawford's saloon whose construction she paid for with prostitution is burned down, after she gets shot in the shoulder, after her friend who has a crush on her gets shot in the head, the movie ends with her kissing Johnny under a waterfall while the previously sad theme song gets all bright and trumpet-y. 3) There's a crazy moment with John Carradine where he wistfully repeats Johnny's "Coffee and Cigarettes are all a man needs" mantra while watching Johnny and Vienna go to town. But it holds on him a bit too long and then he spazzes out, seemingly reacting to the score doing a bizarre, plucky, zippy slapstick riff. It's like he's reacting to a fly or something, but there's no fly or buzz or anything like that that the film communicates, unless I missed it. There's something almost uncanny or creepy about it, this unexplained moment that makes no sense where a western character seems to hear the soundtrack for no reason, captured on this film forever. idk. 4) Michael Cera was at the screening and sat next to me in the lobby while his date went to pee. Anyway, good movie. Obvious McCarthy witch-hunt themes with v good performances and a great score. A+++
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I just love how it's uncommented on that Joan Crawford and Mercedes McCambridge are women.
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