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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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Tunicate posted:

I think people are complaining about the whole 'explaining gravity slingshots for the audience' scene?

Which could probably have been done via some other way.

It reminded me of the scene in The Core (bad movie) where the main character scientist is presenting to a bunch of brilliant specialists and he dumbs down his explanation by doing a demonstration. "This peach is the Earth, this flamethrower is the made-up crisis this movie is about. FWOOM." But I think the scene in this movie was fair because I can't expect every viewer to know what a gravity assist is, so they gave some time to the scene.

In the book, the director of NASA had immediately thought of the possibility of Hermes going back, and that's why he didn't tell the crew. He knew they'd mutiny if they were ordered not to conduct a risky rescue mission.

I enjoyed the movie a lot, and I felt that most of the cuts they made from the book were fair. The acting and cinematography I thought were both impressive, and the intensity is great. However, as a big fan of the book, there were two things definitely missing: When Kapoor says "I wonder what he's thinking right now", and meanwhile Watney is thinking "Why can Aquaman talk to whales? They're mammals, not fish". Second, the scene where Johannsen explains to her father that the astronauts drew straws, and if the food resupply fails she gets to eat the corpses of the others to survive.

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Chamale
Jul 11, 2010

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eggyolk posted:

That's my main gripe with the whole movie (And apparently by extension the book too, though I didn't read it). Everyone is a BEEP BOOP logical machine that is incapable of emotion or fatigue like real human beings.

In the afterword to the book, the author says that being isolated on Mars would have severe and complex psychological impacts. And to paraphrase, he didn't feel like writing a book about that, so he gave Watney a superhuman ability to cope.

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Rougey posted:

In the movie you see him breakdown a number of times, but in a crisis he’s too busy scrambling to fix problems that he can’t even pause to think about how hosed he is until after - except for Hindenhab, I mean sure he was making light of it during the log but he was pretty shaken up. I really hope they include that in the directors cut.

That scene is in the movie. When he's burning hydrazine there's an explosion that burns his face, and he makes a log saying "I just blew myself up." They decided to tone the explosion down, because there's another Hab exploding scene later in the movie, when the airlock fails.

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Jul 11, 2010

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Rougey posted:

Not quite.

Ontop of singing off his eyebrows, he also accidentally flooded the hab with hydrogen and turned it into a giant bomb. Hence, Hindenhab.

I thought that instead of blowing up the whole lab, they just toned it down to a face-burning explosion.

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Imagine a movie botching something basic like gravity on Earth disappearing for a scene with no explanation, it would break immersion for the whole audience. A big inconsistency in some field like chemistry or computer science can feel just as bad to someone who's an expert in those fields. But most people aren't going to be bothered by the hydrazine scene, and if it needs to be pointed out to you, it shouldn't bother you at all.

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