Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

BrokenKnucklez posted:

Lets keep the engine chat out, more welding projects! I need to upload some of my latest repairs.
Sorry, duder, just got excited :dance:

Until the 21st of December, I won't be able to weld anything but I want to learn/do things that are welding related until then. Just read stuff on websites?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
Read and watch some you tube videos. There's a couple mentioned back in the beginning of the thread, chuckee2009, Mr tig, and others have lots of good info.

Didn't want to double post, so here's some rust repair.





BrokenKnucklez fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 12, 2015

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Is there an advantage to stitch welding (other than using less material and saving time) over just running a bead down the whole seam?

iwentdoodie
Apr 29, 2005

🤗YOU'RE WELCOME🤗

Safety Dance posted:

Is there an advantage to stitch welding (other than using less material and saving time) over just running a bead down the whole seam?

Weight. Complexity. Time is a big one, especially on thin material, as you have to wait for it to cool so it doesn't warp.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011
Warping mainly. Thin sheetmetal easily warps and it's no fun having to fix a wavy panel because you ran too hot of a bead.

the spyder fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Dec 9, 2015

Timmy Cruise
Jun 9, 2007

the spyder posted:

Warping mainly. This sheetmetal easily warps and it's no fun having to fix a wavy panel because you ran too hot of a bead.

This, but mainly cost if you're selling what you're welding.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


If time and cost wasn't an issue and you wanted to stiffen up a chassis would full seam welding be the way to go? It seems like the additional weight wouldn't be that much and assuming you stitch welded then came back and filled in the gaps warping should be easier to control.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

NitroSpazzz posted:

If time and cost wasn't an issue and you wanted to stiffen up a chassis would full seam welding be the way to go? It seems like the additional weight wouldn't be that much and assuming you stitch welded then came back and filled in the gaps warping should be easier to control.

Yeah, this is basically what Subaru and Mitsubishi (at least) did to put together competition shells from street cars. Just average out the spot welds until it was basically a full seam weld.

Takes time, though, and adds weight. It also changes the crash dynamics of the unibody, I would imagine, so I don't recommend it for your daily driver.

I know that (at least) djcommie and Slow Is Fast have both done a series of seam welding jobs on their race cars; djcommie more to fix tearing firewalls/strut towers under race loads on the Charade than necessarily to stiffen the chassis.

Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 10, 2015

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


I'll have to look into the factory competition shells from various companies and see how they did it. This would be for a fully caged track car so crash structure isn't as big of a concern. I'll have to figure out if it's worth the trade off in weight even though it should be compensated for with composite panels and Plexiglas.

Also need to figure out if it's really going to be worth the time/weight since I'm not going to be pushing high horsepower or having big aero loads.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

Raluek posted:

They have a tiny showroom in the front of the warehouse. I've only been in there once, to get stick electrodes, but the dude pointed me to the section and I grabbed the thing and was rung up as a walk-in customer. Not sure if there is a discount for having an account (wouldn't be surprised), and I assume they could get stuff out of the back if you need something not on display.

Like, say, your average auto parts store?

Funny related story: One time I had a fan belt blow, and happened to pull into a tire shop or something that had an account with the local parts store, but didn't actually sell belts. I talked them into ordering a belt on a rush from the nearest location of the parts store, and 20 minutes later the lil' Ford Ranger pulled up with my belt. Paying the delivery driver was ... complicated -- IIRC, I ended up paying $5 over the shop's cost (but still below retail/labor) as a bribe to the tire shop manager to falsify the forms and juggle the cash I gave him to bill it COD to the shop's account, and installed it myself.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Delivery McGee posted:

Like, say, your average auto parts store?

Sort of, but way smaller. Like maybe a third of the size of an Autozone, with shelves that only go waist high.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
I know goons don't like reddit in general, but there is a whole sub for welding porn. http://www.reddit.com/r/WeldPorn

BigFuzzyJesus
Dec 4, 2007
Now with more Jesus
Well I pulled my shock x-member from the frame and took the frame with it. Im assuming this is because I got the frame too hot. Going to fishplate and re-weld. Any other insight?


Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

mafoose posted:

drat I should have posted a picture of the fence posts I did with my 130 Clarke. They were 1/4" thick and my weaves came out beautifully considering the lack of practice. All the flux curled up and flaked off easily.

Too bad the day also included spatter burning through my shirt and getting in the fold of my elbow and lighting my shirt on fire because the MIG torch was so hot. Little MIG was giving it all it had!

Its not a sucessful fabrication project until you've set yourself alight at least once.

Setting fire to a nomex jacket was a highlight for me!

  • Locked thread