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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/08/30/windows-10-spying-on-windows-7-and-windows-8/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Laughing at Microsoft MSFT +0.00%’s controversial data mining and privacy invasions within Windows 10? Well Windows 7 and Windows 8 users should laugh no longer as this most hated spying is now headed your way…

Software specialist site gHacks has discovered that Microsoft has pushed four new updates to both Windows 7 and Windows 8 which introduce new data collecting and user behaviour tracking features.

The four updates in question and the official Microsoft descriptions are:

KB3068708 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry – This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3022345 (replaced by KB3068708) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry – This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet been upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 – This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry – This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. This service provides benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)Furthermore gHacks notes that ” these four updates ignore existing user preferences stored in Windows 7 and Windows 8 (including any edits made to the Hosts file) and immediately starts exchanging user data with vortex-win.data.microsoft.com and settings-win.data.microsoft.com.

“ These, and maybe others, appear to be hardcoded which means that the Hosts file is bypassed automatically”, gHacks explains.

Read more – Windows 10: Should You Upgrade?

I have reached out to Microsoft about the new patches and will update when the company’s response if/when it is received.

But until then the bigger question for those uncomfortable with these changes is: How do you stop them?

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

echinopsis posted:

But until then the bigger question for those uncomfortable with these changes is: How do you stop them?

just let that sink in for a bit


just HOW IN THE WHOLE OF HELL do we stop these updates????????????????????????????

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

echinopsis posted:

just HOW IN THE WHOLE OF HELL do we stop these updates????????????????????????????

heres a clue taken from this here pc



indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

echinopsis posted:

heres a clue taken from this here pc




The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

echinopsis posted:

heres a clue taken from this here pc





does 8.1 even let you decide on updates? I haven't found a setting that will get it to stop force rebooting while I'm in the middle of very important pornography

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
yeah, you can tell it not to automatically install. afaik in 8.1 it's p. bad though - it just gives you an "updates are available" reminder in the bottom corner of the login screen where it's easy to miss/get used to, compared to in xp & 7 where it would annoy you with systray popups until you gave in

as a result it turns out i'm full of even more 0dayz than echopenis



mine's a desktop, i'm guessing all the "optional" ones in his are laptop crapware‽

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
like on this one i haven't even got the RESERVE YOUR COPY OF WINDOWS 10 MOUNTAIN LION yet lol

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

jony ive aces posted:

yeah, you can tell it not to automatically install. afaik in 8.1 it's p. bad though - it just gives you an "updates are available" reminder in the bottom corner of the login screen where it's easy to miss/get used to, compared to in xp & 7 where it would annoy you with systray popups until you gave in

as a result it turns out i'm full of even more 0dayz than echopenis



mine's a desktop, i'm guessing all the "optional" ones in his are laptop crapware‽

youre doing better than me bro but




get off the grass. laptop? this is a pure dekstop bro. no idea what those updates are except that we all know they dont matter

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
yeah i'm sure this is really "important"

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
dude

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
where's my car

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
it's okay, the boxes were ticked but i just closed the window :smugmrgw:

brap
Aug 23, 2004

Grimey Drawer
so which one do you untick to prevent the phone home poo poo/windows 10 nag poo poo from getting installed

I just don't update the windows version in my VM and I guess that's succeeded in preventing the windows 10 nag

probably not going to update to windows 10 until I get some confidence that microsoft isnt just loving with everyone i.e. rolling out a subscription plan a year from now or lose the ability to use your PC lolol. that would be very stupid but I wouldn't put it past them.

taco_fox
Dec 14, 2005

fleshweasel posted:

so which one do you untick to prevent the phone home poo poo/windows 10 nag poo poo from getting installed
it's simple, you just have to click on "more information" for every update to find out which ones you don't want because we don't have the technology to put that information in the updater itself

pram
Jun 10, 2001
it appears as if, collectively, your operating systems are constituent parts of a giant piece of poo poo

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008

taco_fox posted:

it's simple, you just have to click on "more information" for every update to find out which ones you don't want because we don't have the technology to put that information in the updater itself

and then google the KB because MS has lied about whats in the updates before

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004

:golgo:
EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN
:golgo:
whew good thing those fuckers cant get my data *opens chrome, logs into facebook*

Korean Boomhauer
Sep 4, 2008
i installed "Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool" and it uninstalled windows

jony neuemonic
Nov 13, 2009

Tatsujin posted:

whew good thing those fuckers cant get my data *opens chrome, logs into facebook*

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012
This thread gets the OFFICIAL YOSPOS SEAL OF APPROVAL from me, the king of YosPos!

Migishu
Oct 22, 2005

I'll eat your fucking eyeballs if you're not careful

Grimey Drawer

Tatsujin posted:

whew good thing those fuckers cant get my data *opens chrome, logs into facebook*

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006

Tatsujin posted:

whew good thing those fuckers cant get my data *opens chrome, logs into facebook*

*uses smartphone*

mister negative
Jun 2, 2004

Salad Prong
by making previous versions of windows just as lovely as the new one people will have to upgrade, right?

pram
Jun 10, 2001

no they will not posted:

This thread gets the OFFICIAL YOSPOS SEAL OF APPROVAL from me, the king of YosPos!

my liege

yeah actually they will
Aug 18, 2012
I will bump this thread to keep it on the first page. It's under my protection

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

i installed windows 10 and let it update my neg rear end in a top hat whenever it feels the need. i am its bit dumpster.

i've told it in no uncertain terms to let me schedule the restarts, though. need to preserve some dignity, you know?

Moist von Lipwig
Oct 28, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Tortured By Flan
gotta have a safe word

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

PLATONIC ANAL VORE posted:

gotta have a safe word

haha, mine is STEBE! lmfao

foxy boxing babe
Jan 17, 2010


just get a macbook pro, op

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

a few weeks ago windows 7 installed a "critical security update" which made it completely unable to boot. it would get to the starting windows animation and sit there for about 2 seconds before automatically rebooting in an endless cycle. i had to use system restore to roll back to right before that critical security update to get my computer to turn on again.

i guess a windows that cant boot is pretty unlikely to get hacked though

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I love the way you phrase "windows installed" rather than "I installed"

you're still at fault mate, for allowing windows to update itself

shaking me drat ed

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
i think teh windows upddates are good :)

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Julie And Candy posted:

just get a macbook pro, op

nobody needs a macbook pro. you're probably good with a CHROMEBOOK, if you need more power? (probably dont) you can buy a macbook/air. Not beefy enough? Time for a powerful Custom Desktop Rig.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003
Powerful Laptop. Oxymoron. ROFL

verily carefree
Apr 5, 2014

bobbilljim posted:

i think teh windows upddates are good :)

time to upgrade!

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bobbilljim posted:

i think teh windows upddates are good :)

didn't you read what the OP master had to say?

bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
yes but it turns out that the updates are good and not bad

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

echinopsis posted:

I love the way you phrase "windows installed" rather than "I installed"

you're still at fault mate, for allowing windows to update itself

shaking me drat ed

hmm

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

bobbilljim posted:

yes but it turns out that the updates are good and not bad

even this spying one?


mate i pirate poo poo like mad mate. thanks to the TPP soon microsoft will be able to sue me via email. i dont really want that

echinopsis fucked around with this message at 09:09 on Sep 1, 2015

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