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Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

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NEW OWNERS GUIDE

WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT LAST SEASON

-Ignore the ratings, Leo Egan is alive and well

DIVISION WINNERS

AL North: Seattle Discontent
AL East: Hartford Focus
AL South: Santa Fe Leo Egans
AL West: Tucson Seraperos (all hail our 60 win overlords)

NL North: Chicago Cubes
NL East: Cleveland Hustlers
NL South: New Orleans Spirits
NL West: Colorado Burrellballers

WILD CARDS

AL: Charlotte Goyim, St. Louis Gaedels
NL: New York Metropolitans, Santa Cruz Conquistadors

AWARDS

AL MVP: Aaron Hanson, Leo Egans
NL MVP: Cliff Burnett, Burrellballers
AL Cy Young: Cody Roosevelt, Discontent (gently caress you art)
NL Cy Young: Deivi Elcano, Los Angeleses
AL ROTY: Terrence Weinhardt (shut up art)
NL ROTY: Hub Woods, Burrelballers

INFO FOR NEW OWNERS AND HOPELESSLY INCOMPETENT VETERANS

1. Consider running trade offers by the veteran owners in thread. We'll tell you if you're getting ripped off too badly.

2. Figure out a plan and stick to it. If you decide your team needs a rebuilding period, don't abort it halfway through and try to win. That's how you get a consistently mediocre team that doesn't go anywhere.

3. Overall rating is pretty much meaningless, other than to inflate a guy's asking price or determine draft comp.

4. During the preseason, you need to pay more attention to your team than at any other time. After the season starts, you can get away with checking your team once a day or so. During the preseason, you need to be much more active. Don't commit to a team if you can't do that. The main cycles run at (roughly) 3:45am, 11:45am and 7:45pm Eastern, with half cycles in between each. I'd advise that you check every half-cycle, as this is when you get feedback on coach hiring, free agent offers, re-signings, etc.

5. Go through your team roster when you get your team. Figure out what assets you have. Figure out what players you need to protect from the Rule V draft. Failing to do so can seriously set your team back. I'm bolding this part because nasboat is AN IDIOT WHO LOST THREE GOOD PROSPECTS AT ONE POINT BECAUSE I FORGOT TO DO THIS EXACT THING, SO IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU, TOO! SERIOUSLY!

6. Don't be afraid to ask questions! HBD can be overwhelming at first. There's a lot to figure out, and we've all been through it. Use your goon resources.

7. Don't listen to Art's advice. EVER.

8. Coach Hiring Sucks. But it's not that bad honestly if the world works together. We can do this. Trust me.

9. Most of all, have fun with it. Don't get too worked up about fake baseball. Unless you're menasboat.

10. Get a Big Brother! If you've never played this game before feel free to ask the thread for help from the veterans. Hopefully one of us will take you under our wing and teach you some of the stupid convoluted poo poo that you need to know before you quit in frustration. Then when you're a 10 season veteran with multiple world series wins you can pay it forward!

AWESOME THING YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IF YOU DON'T ALREADY

-ADVANCED ROSTER EDIT. This is essential. If you've got (I think) 3 seasons of HBD under your belt, you can take the stupid, WIS-mandated 'training wheels' off your "Edit Roster" page. That's right, no longer will you have to make promotions one player at a time -- which was always a terrible process when trying to bump up all your minor leaguers. To get to advanced roster mode, simply access the "Management Console" from the "Manager's Office" menu, then scroll down and select "Advanced Mode" under "GM Edit Rosters Options"

SPRING TRAINING INFO YOU WILL NEED

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Set your spring training rest hierarchy and pitch counts.

PAs in spring training count towards fatigue in the regular season but the games don't, so you don't want to use your starters as much as you would in the regular season.

HOWEVER spring training is also a good opportunity for your young players to get a couple extra points and if you don't let your veterans play, they might lose a few points. So it's a careful balancing act. I'd recommend inviting some guys to ST from your minor leagues--either prospects you want to develop or mediocre AAAA dudes who can soak up some innings/PAs. Your 25 man roster won't cut it.

Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Spring training squads to invite some of your minor leaguers to camp. Go to Manager's office -> Managers Settings to set your lineup to rest after the fifth inning even if they're losing or leading by only 1. Go to Managers Office -> Player Settings -> Edit Player settings to set your starters to low pitch counts. If for some reason you want them to go deep in games, you can manually force your team to use a 10 man rotation or something. Rotate out your relievers, setting the guys who just pitched to "rest" and forcing the AI to use other guys after games.

The goal is to get your starters at least 10 innings, your relievers at least 3 appearances and your batters at least 30 PAs. After that you're safe from regression. The rest of the playing time should go to backups, bench guys, and minor leaguers.

~Everything below here is being updated~

CURRENT GOON TEAMS -- NOW WITH TWITTER HANDLES!
Yeah this isn't even close to correct I'll fix it later

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Forums name      / WIS name     / Franchise                      / Twitter

nasboat          / nasboat      / Seattle Discontent             / @nasboat
Art Vandelay     / thaneoffife  / Montreal Royal Kilted Yaksmen  / @ThaneOfFife
gardenald        / gardenald    / Chicago Barons                 / @gardenald

Devo             / devomac      / Pittsburgh Steel Birds         / @Devo1999
Evilbeard        / evilbeard    / Hartford Focus                 / @evilbeard
duyarvish        / kingfatdik   / Dover Dumpsters                / @duyarvish
n/a              / CBoulding    / Boston Sophists                / @CBoulding

jeffersonlives   / tjefferson   / Santa Fe Leo Egans             / @ihateprospects
Scrotos          / Fervus       / Charlotte Goyim                / @scrotos
Tavarin          / tavarin      / St. Louis Gaedels              / @tavarin

CaptMurphy       / captmurphy   / Portland Beavers               / @haassauce
n/a              / elchapo      / Tucson Seraperos               / @mrubio52
The broken bones / kingofspain  / Salt Lake City Punks           / @TheAmitie
Thauros          / thauros      / Vancouver Directors            / @SAThauros

Nerokerubina     / koyunlu      / Iowa City IOWA                 / @QaraKoyunlu
Operaterp        / operaterp    / Philadelphia Phatties          / 
ernestborg9      / ernestborg9  / Ottawa BEEMOs                  / @ernest_borg9
n/a              / spaldingball / Chicago Cubes                  / @spaldingethan

AlleyViper       / alleyviper   / Cleveland Hustlers             / @deanleyland
chutwig          / chutwig      / Buffalo Garden Paths           / @erhudy
tatankatonk      / tatankatonk  / New York Metropolitans         / @tatankatonk
n/a              / mattwithanh  / Jacksonville Juggernauts       / @mattwithanh

Atheistdeals.com / atheistdeals / New Orleans Spirits            / @DoubleScorpion
(I forget)       / BarroldBonds / Jackson Jackknives             / @BarroldBonds

ThatsMyBoye      / mrincubus    / Anaheim Los Angeleses          / @paul_boye
gyroball         / gyroball     / Colorado Burrellballers        / @RedbirdMenace
Power of Pecota  / pecotaredux  / Salem Saberhagens              / @GeorgeMatanzas
saintonan        / saintonan    / Santa Cruz Conquistadors       / @?

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# ? Sep 5, 2015 16:08

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 09:33

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

NL South New Orleans Octopus owner is @atbobb

NL East New York Gothams owner is @jenmacramos

# ? Sep 5, 2015 16:15

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

Renyel Romero is asking for 3 years 14mil, so I give him exactly that, and he rejects it saying he wants a little more - but he doesn't specify how much more like they did before.

# ? Sep 5, 2015 16:26

Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

ArtVandelay posted:

Renyel Romero is asking for 3 years 14mil, so I give him exactly that, and he rejects it saying he wants a little more - but he doesn't specify how much more like they did before.

Slip him a lil tongue

# ? Sep 5, 2015 17:57

Capt Murphy: Nov 16, 2005

Power of Pecota posted:

Slip him a lil tongue

I find a handsie never fails to sway them.

# ? Sep 5, 2015 19:20

Capt Murphy: Nov 16, 2005

The Lich Coach

# ? Sep 5, 2015 19:25

gardenald: Jul 23, 2007; In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

Capt Murphy posted:

The Lich Coach

I'm giving him all the money to be my coach

# ? Sep 5, 2015 19:36

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

He's actually decent too. Could stick around a while.

# ? Sep 5, 2015 20:52

saffi faildotter: Mar 2, 2007

Hey that reminds me whatever happened to Hong-Gu Lim

# ? Sep 6, 2015 00:24

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

hes dead

# ? Sep 6, 2015 02:27

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

I just won an arb case, not bad! Yasiel wanted 7mil and I started at 5 and won!

# ? Sep 6, 2015 15:19

EvilBeard: Apr 24, 2003; Big Q's House of Pancakes; Fun Shoe

Why has no one traded me a good SP yet? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

# ? Sep 7, 2015 01:04

duyarvish: Feb 7, 2015

Is this FA class really terrible or is my judgment clouded by not being good at this

# ? Sep 7, 2015 03:33

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

duyarvish posted:

Is this FA class really terrible or is my judgment clouded by not being good at this

Its not great.

# ? Sep 7, 2015 03:37

The broken bones: Jan 3, 2008; Out beyond winning and losing, there is a field.

I will meet you there.

who's got relief pitching to trade, i got fringe mlb players

# ? Sep 7, 2015 04:03

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

The dude who has KC is not so great. I asked him about George Price, and he'll only do the deal if it involves Braulio Canseco AND another top prospect.

Now I know how it was to deal with me all these years.

# ? Sep 7, 2015 05:24

saintonan: Dec 7, 2009; Fields of glory shine eternal

I wouldn't move Price for anything less than a great package either, especially if my overall talent pool was as thin as that team's is. It always mystifies me why people think owners with little talent will give away what little they have for free.

# ? Sep 7, 2015 17:13

ThatsMyBoye: Nov 21, 2006; I wish that I believed in fate
I wish I didn't sleep so late
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders

For how many people need fielding coaches and how few unemployed ones are worth a poo poo, a lot of us could be in a bad spot this season

# ? Sep 7, 2015 17:26

gardenald: Jul 23, 2007; In the end, it comes down to throwing one pitch after another, and seeing what happens. With each new consequence, the game begins to take shape.

I've said it before, Rick Newman is my real team mvp for not making me go through FI hiring for the last 10 seasons

In other news, I hosed up and arb3'd Brandon Jackson and now he won't re sign with me

# ? Sep 7, 2015 19:45

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

Well that was quite the trade offer I just awoke to.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 12:50

AlleyViper: Sep 15, 2007; Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

Is that Harris trade bad enough for a first time owner that we should step in?

# ? Sep 8, 2015 14:40

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

You all didn't stop the victor tavarez trade, let me have something here :v:

# ? Sep 8, 2015 14:49

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

AlleyViper posted:

Is that Harris trade bad enough for a first time owner that we should step in?

I think so. Its pretty awful.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 15:34

gyroball: Jul 29, 2003; Fortunately, the people found a mighty Rosenthal, called Trevor.

34 year old Alex Ransom putting on a Burrellballers cap. storylines

# ? Sep 8, 2015 15:56

oldfan: Jul 22, 2007; "Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."

Fake baseball is a funny game.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 16:17

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

Why the gently caress does Jeff get a good FA every year? Does no one else bid? There are like 3 good FAs this year.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 16:31

EvilBeard: Apr 24, 2003; Big Q's House of Pancakes; Fun Shoe

gently caress Barrios and gently caress Ivan DeLeon.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 16:35

AlleyViper: Sep 15, 2007; Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

gyroball posted:

34 year old Alex Ransom putting on a Burrellballers cap. storylines

Vic Almanzar ready to Hustle

# ? Sep 8, 2015 16:37

saintonan: Dec 7, 2009; Fields of glory shine eternal

Cozy Goldberg might make my lineup at least interesting if I can get a decent leadoff hitter.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 17:11

duyarvish: Feb 7, 2015

I see why that Harris trade isn't good, but why exactly is so bad it's vetoable?

# ? Sep 8, 2015 17:53

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

duyarvish posted:

I see why that Harris trade isn't good, but why exactly is so bad it's vetoable?

Becuase it is a brand new owner.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:07

AlleyViper: Sep 15, 2007; Oh, there's plenty of other balls in the sea. Plus, you're not very talented.

duyarvish posted:

I see why that Harris trade isn't good, but why exactly is so bad it's vetoable?

Brand new owner who is losing a legit asset for a guy who you can get at any time on waivers or through the Rule V draft.

I can't help but wonder if the new guy saw SS and the OVR/PRJ comparison to Harris and thought it was good.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:17

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

He's clearly looking at overall. But you didn't veto a goddamn heywood Cameron for Brian brown trade, so don't veto this. That was probably worse.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 18:22

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

ArtVandelay posted:

He's clearly looking at overall. But you didn't veto a goddamn heywood Cameron for Brian brown trade, so don't veto this. That was probably worse.

Why are you referencing a trade among two HBD veterans vs a trade with a first year owner? The whole point is the owners involved plus the value being given away.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:35

ArtVandelay: Jul 13, 2004

The point is, we all make mistakes, but you don't veto mine. If this were in reverse and I traded Harris for someone terrible, you'd laugh and call me stupid, but you wouldn't veto it.

Let's let this person make his mistake, and then explain to him why it was a mistake.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 19:41

saintonan: Dec 7, 2009; Fields of glory shine eternal

Somehow I guess you wouldn't be saying this if you weren't the beneficiary here. That's pretty lame.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 20:03

Power of Pecota: Aug 4, 2007; Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

gyroball posted:

34 year old Alex Ransom putting on a Burrellballers cap. storylines

Haha, I love it. If I can't squeak into the playoffs I'll be hoping for him to get a ring.

I wish I could have justified bringing Ransom back but all of my hybrid 2B/CF types got too old to play CF.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 20:22

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

I vetoed both trades involving first year owners. Please don't scalp legitimate players and send back piles of garbage to new people.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:30

Scrotos: Sep 8, 2003

Devo posted:

I vetoed both trades involving first year owners. Please don't scalp legitimate players and send back piles of garbage to new people.

I ran my deal passed two other owners who both said it was fine.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:33

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 09:33

Devo: Jul 9, 2001; Caught Cubs Posting

Scrotos posted:

I ran my deal passed two other owners who both said it was fine.

It's two garbage prospects and a garbage #5 SP who is done growing for a .750 OPS shortstop. It's bad.

# ? Sep 8, 2015 21:35

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