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The cool part about the apple lease, as opposed to a carrier lease is you can do an installment plan and take it to like a low cost carrier like Cricket. Or if you move to a place where your carriers coverage sucks you can change carriers.
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LionYeti posted:The cool part about the apple lease, as opposed to a carrier lease is you can do an installment plan and take it to like a low cost carrier like Cricket. Or if you move to a place where your carriers coverage sucks you can change carriers. Is that right? So if I switch from Verizon to AT&T for example, 6 months into the 24-month plan, can I just take the phone in, swap it for a new carrier phone with the same storage and carry on as normal? It's cheaper for me to be a part of my family's plan at the moment but if they decide to switch providers I'm kind of at their mercy.
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Sep 9, 2015 23:33
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GobiasIndustries posted:Is that right? So if I switch from Verizon to AT&T for example, 6 months into the 24-month plan, can I just take the phone in, swap it for a new carrier phone with the same storage and carry on as normal? It's cheaper for me to be a part of my family's plan at the moment but if they decide to switch providers I'm kind of at their mercy. I'd assume that's what it would be you're leasing the phone from Apple not a carrier and they said in the presentation the phones gonna be unlocked. You wouldn't be getting a new phone you'd be swapping the sim card.
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Sep 9, 2015 23:35
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LionYeti posted:you're leasing the phone from Apple not a carrier You aren't leasing, you are taking a 24 month personal loan from Citizen Bank. I'd actually be kind of curious as to how strict they are going to be as far as credit, the carriers are a little more forgiving seeing as they have a locked phone that they can blacklist and hold your phone number hostage on, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that even though the phones are unlocked that Apple will activation lock out phones that people stop making payments on.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:15
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Three Olives posted:You aren't leasing, you are taking a 24 month personal loan from Citizen Bank. I'd actually be kind of curious as to how strict they are going to be as far as credit, the carriers are a little more forgiving seeing as they have a locked phone that they can blacklist and hold your phone number hostage on, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that even though the phones are unlocked that Apple will activation lock out phones that people stop making payments on. I'm sure they are, they'd probably also blacklist the IMEI from all carriers
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Sep 10, 2015 00:19
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LionYeti posted:I'm sure they are, they'd probably also blacklist the IMEI from all carriers On the same note I'm wondering how carriers will respond to this. If people are free to bounce between carriers at will it could result in much more favorable rates to carrier financing just for the lock in. I wonder if we will see say Samsung offering very favorable discounts to carriers should they say way, way undercut Apple on 18 month finance contracts with 12 month upgrades. If I was Samsung and a carrier I would be offering one hell of a deal to seriously undercut Apple and on a bulk order on S6s for 12 month upgrade financing. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 00:40
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Three Olives posted:On the same note I'm wondering how carriers will respond to this. If people are free to bounce between carriers at will it could result in much more favorable rates to carrier financing just for the lock in. I looked and there's some clarification it will let you jump between carriers just between the big 4 Verizon AT&T T-MO and Sprint apparently so its gonna be good just not as good.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:45
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LionYeti posted:I'd assume that's what it would be you're leasing the phone from Apple not a carrier and they said in the presentation the phones gonna be unlocked. You wouldn't be getting a new phone you'd be swapping the sim card. Right but don't different providers use different technologies (CDMA/GSM) which would make the phones physically incompatible with other networks or is that a thing of the past?
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Sep 10, 2015 00:45
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GobiasIndustries posted:Right but don't different providers use different technologies (CDMA/GSM) which would make the phones physically incompatible with other networks or is that a thing of the past? They do, but the iPhone supports them all the bands for each carrier . They don't have multiple phone models for each carrier anymore.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:47
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GobiasIndustries posted:Right but don't different providers use different technologies (CDMA/GSM) which would make the phones physically incompatible with other networks or is that a thing of the past? Yes but the modern chipsets are able to support CDMA/GSM/LTE on the same devices and Apple has had the clout to get the CDMA carriers to certify and whitelist them for the more restrictive CDMA.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:49
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I did a phone lease before and hated it, mainly because they lost my phone when I returned it and gave me grief for months (carrier, not apple). Is the old Apple TV now EOL, or is it going to get the new OS but without all the coolest stuff? I'm guessing it's locked to whatever version it's on now.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:54
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EL BROMANCE posted:I did a phone lease before and hated it, mainly because they lost my phone when I returned it and gave me grief for months (carrier, not apple). Apple has not released a new OS build to devs, but has opened up a raffle to be able to buy the dev hardware early. So... Yeah.
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Sep 10, 2015 00:56
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I would imagine that given they're still selling the old Apple TV alongside the new models, they'll get the OS upgrade, just not the App Store or Siri. At the very least, they should get a graphical refresh. Then again, the Nano still sports the old skeuomorphic look, so…
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Sep 10, 2015 01:04
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EL BROMANCE posted:I did a phone lease before and hated it, mainly because they lost my phone when I returned it and gave me grief for months (carrier, not apple). Again, technical nitpick, but the carrier plans are not a lease, but instead a 0% APR purchase plan, and you own the phone, and you do eventually owe the entire amount on the device unless you take advantage of their switching options. Apple's is more nebulous, but I am guessing you still own the device in that case. You'll pay the entire amount on it over 2 years, and can get a new phone after 1 year for no extra fee. Kinda rad.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:05
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After they showed off all the 3d Touch stuff with the new iPhone I wrote off buying any iPad until it has that too. Happened with the retina display, and happened with Touch ID.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:06
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Michael Scott posted:Apple's plan IS a lease, I am guessing you do not own the device. I am interested to learn exactly who owns the device in Apple's case, if it's the bank or Apple or what. I don't think it's a lease, you just have the option to pay off your loan after 12 months with the trade in of your device and start again. After 24 months you own the phone outright.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:07
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Drastic Actions posted:They do, but the iPhone supports them all the bands for each carrier . They don't have multiple phone models for each carrier anymore. Ok perfect, that's awesome news. I definitely remember back when they first came out they made that distinction, that'll make any future decisions a ton easier and makes my pre-order a no-brainer now 
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Sep 10, 2015 01:08
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Michael Scott posted:Again, technical nitpick, but the carrier plans are not a lease, but instead a 0% APR purchase plan, and you own the phone, and you do eventually owe the entire amount on the device unless you take advantage of their switching options. Yeah it does sound better than the deal I was (mis)sold at least. Phones in the US work quite differently to over here too, although I need to work my head around that before I migrate.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:08
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bronin posted:They raised the price of the iPhone in Europe. 849€ for the 64GB 6s. Jesus loving Christ. Yeah the 16GB 6s is now over $1000 in Canada with taxes which is up quite a bit from last year. I was thinking about a new 6s+ but I don't think I $1500 want it.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:25
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:After they showed off all the 3d Touch stuff with the new iPhone I wrote off buying any iPad until it has that too. Happened with the retina display, and happened with Touch ID. Wait... Seriously? They didn't put 3D touch in the new iPads? How loving stupid. I guess you're right, it's pretty stupid to buy an iPad since we know what the new feature will be next year
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Sep 10, 2015 01:38
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There are no new iPads. Except the big one.
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I did some quick math on the apple upgrade program, and it's looking to me like it might be a good deal compared to buying/reselling your phone. Assuming you were to buy a 6s 64 GB now, add in Apple Care, and you're spending $880 ($750+$130). Net that against a $350 resale (iphone 6 64 GB price on gazelle right now) for a net cost of $530. Repeat when the iphone 7 comes out and you're looking at a total cost over 2 years of $1,060. Compare that to 24 monthly payments of $36.58 and you'd only spend $878 over 2 years. Your resale value would have to be about $440 in order for both options to be equal.
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Sep 10, 2015 01:43
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iPad tends to get the iPhone features a generation behind. Plus it would take away some of the features of the pencil (although even with the 3d touch I expect the pencil works better).
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Sep 10, 2015 01:44
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Aphrodite posted:There are no new iPads. Tablet iterations seem even more minor than the phones, so they'll probably let this generation play out for at least a few more months. The nice thing is the air 2 is starting to see some nice sales, I picked up the 64 GB model for $75 off over the weekend.
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Aphrodite posted:There are no new iPads. They announced the iPad Mini 4…
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flipoff posted:I did some quick math on the apple upgrade program, and it's looking to me like it might be a good deal compared to buying/reselling your phone. Gazelle is a pawn shop, you're getting a lot less than market value. You could flip an iphone 6 64 GB for $450 dollars or more if you work a little, and you don't have to buy Apple Care. That doesn't mean it's not a good deal, however.
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Sep 10, 2015 02:22
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Aphrodite posted:There are no new iPads. The Mini 4! Form factor of an iPad Air 2, with the guts of an iPad Air 2 all in the size of an iPad mini! A very tempting upgrade for me, as an iPad mini user. EDIT: Over the next few years they'll add The real question is whether that keyboard port will eventually be added to the regular iPad and iPad mini (with respectively properly sized covers) or whether they'll leave that feature only on the iPad Pro to differentiate it. Snuffman fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 02:24
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Yeah but that's just stepping up to the Air 2 after the shameless Mini 3. It's using existing parts. Also someone said it's actually the non-X CPU or something.
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Sep 10, 2015 02:58
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Important to note: the Split View feature of iOS 9, where you can use two full apps side by side on an iPad, will work on the Mini 4. This probably means it has 2gb of ram like the iPad Air does.
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Sep 10, 2015 03:19
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Will Force Touch work if your screen has a built in protector? How about with the glass stick-ons?
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Bottom Liner posted:Will Force Touch work if your screen has a built in protector? How about with the glass stick-ons? That sounds like a you problem.
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flipoff posted:I did some quick math on the apple upgrade program, and it's looking to me like it might be a good deal compared to buying/reselling your phone. I'm not sure this is the right comparison, as you're still on the hook for a year of iPhone payments to pay off the second iPhone. Also, as was mentioned, gazelle is pretty low for trade value.
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Sep 10, 2015 05:08
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What happens after the end of the 24th month, with your 2nd iphone? Do you owe any more money?
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Michael Scott posted:What happens after the end of the 24th month, with your 2nd iphone? Do you owe any more money? Depends where you're counting from. If you get a phone now, trade it in at 12 months, and get a new one, you're on the hook for 24 months of payments to pay it off, so 36 months from the time you get your first phone.
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Sep 10, 2015 05:32
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Apple trying to take a cut out of Aarons market
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Pretty sure Apple realized that people aren't upgrading iPads every year (or even every two) like they do phones, so why refresh the whole product line every year? Edit: And haven't the Minis always used non-X SoCs? fourwood fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 06:09
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Space Grey ain't good enough Apple, I want Black
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fourwood posted:Pretty sure Apple realized that people aren't upgrading iPads every year (or even every two) like they do phones, so why refresh the whole product line every year?
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I have a 5 so I'm excited to upgrade to the 6S now. This is also the first time I've had a real job with disposable income saved for things like this so I'll be able to get in on the preorder thing. Only thing is, are unlocked full priced phones gonna be available for preorder? I am using one of the TMobile no contract plans.
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