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Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
Fill your taxi squad you boob.

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Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Spermy Smurf posted:

Fill your taxi squad you boob.

u

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
this is gonna be one of those years where i declare a rebuild but get crazy schedule luck and don't sell because i somehow end up like 9-4 and then get blown out in the first round isn't it

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

so, like every year for the Concordes, yup

therealVECNAmfers
Aug 24, 2016

Undead Overlard
"Cordarrelle Patterson, nicknamed "Flash", also known as “Cadillac” is an American football running back, Wide receiver and Return specialist for the Atlanta Falcons of the National Football League. " but only a WR in MFL!

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

I think it's a reasonable proposal to designate Patterson as a RB. I haven't checked if MFL supports a combo designation, probably it does, but I'd support that too. We try to avoid changes like this mid-season, but this seems to be an edge case where MFL (and its data source, Fantasy Sharks) are in the minority for a player's position.

Any objections?

The Zack
Jan 1, 2005

Pillbug
No objection here

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants
Sounds good to me.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
I dont want to be a wet blanket but I don't think we can change his designation.

We picked mfl. Said mfl is the people to listen to.

We didn't change DE and LB when we talked about it.

Do we want to change "just this one person" if others are denied? We wanna open that door?


For what it's worth the dude is a RB. I am unsure changing this one specific thing fucks poo poo up, he is a unicorn and the other ones are far more ambiguous.

I have a guy or two I don't want changed if these floodgates open.

But: Patterson is a drat RB and always has been. If everyone agrees he is a unicorn and we should swap him AND ONLY HIM AND NO ONE ELSE WILL BE PUT FORWARD then I would vote for it.

Chen Kenichi
Jul 20, 2001
I am kinda indifferent about switching position designations on a player when obvious and appropriate provided we do not start giving multiple positions to a single player.

therealVECNAmfers
Aug 24, 2016

Undead Overlard
Thanks for taking up the Patterson issue guys. I'll deal with whatever the result is. Looks like he's listed as RB on CBS, NFL and Yahoo leagues

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

Spermy Smurf posted:

I dont want to be a wet blanket but I don't think we can change his designation.

We picked mfl. Said mfl is the people to listen to.

We didn't change DE and LB when we talked about it.

Do we want to change "just this one person" if others are denied? We wanna open that door?


For what it's worth the dude is a RB. I am unsure changing this one specific thing fucks poo poo up, he is a unicorn and the other ones are far more ambiguous.

I have a guy or two I don't want changed if these floodgates open.

But: Patterson is a drat RB and always has been. If everyone agrees he is a unicorn and we should swap him AND ONLY HIM AND NO ONE ELSE WILL BE PUT FORWARD then I would vote for it.

i agree with this entire post except for the last part because cordarrelle patterson being an RB is a new thing, he was drafted as a WR and considered a WR up until like 2 years ago, he's only listed as an RB now because NFL teams finally realized he is dogshit at route running, barely competent at catching a football, and is only good at returns and gadget plays. they could call him a cornerback for at it matters since he's a poor man's devin hester. I've seen nick foles catch swing passes for a touchdown, it doesn't make him a running back either

Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Oct 6, 2021

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt
I’m fine leaving him as a WR unless MFL changes it. Congrats to whoever has him and gaming the system (which I also think is totally fine… as long as it’s within the rules).

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

During the 2018 offseason, the league agreed to increase our IR slots from 2 to 3.
Spermy screenshotted adding the third IR slot here.
In this post, Spermy summarized the rules changes we made... However, both in this post and while making updates to our league rules (you can see in versions of the rules doc from June 18, 2018), he missed us adding an IR slot, while I added it to the actual rosters.

Although I did look at the rules after Spermy updated them, I failed to notice this omission. In 2019 and 2020, we rolled the league over, and MFL preserved roster structure each time. But, in 2020, we temporarily added Covid slots for owners to use only for Covid-19 infected players.

This year, after rolling over the league, one of us restored the IR slots, and referred to the written rules doc, which still said 2. So we've had 2 IR slots so far this year. Now, we have noticed the discrepancy.

Adding back a slot directly benefits me. I currently have six players on IR. There is a debate in Slack because several of us have had to make tough decisions to date that might not have been made, while others of us will have to make those decisions going forward: so adding the slot back potentially benefits those with mostly current & future injury trouble over those who mostly had early-season injury trouble.

Please weigh in on this debate, if you have an opinion.

Leperflesh fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Oct 6, 2021

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
I think we gotta add it back asap. Before Saturday waivers.

Put Blake Martinez and any other obvious IR casualties back to the teams.

Anyone with an issue like that let us know.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004

Alfalfa posted:

I’m fine leaving him as a WR unless MFL changes it. Congrats to whoever has him and gaming the system (which I also think is totally fine… as long as it’s within the rules).

The vote in slack shows everyone as an aye to your nay. Gotta be 8-1 with owner abstaining.

Probably need to so this since every other site has him as RB.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
Rule proposal for next year: steals for guys who were waiver pickups is a third round pick versus a 5th.

5ths are useless, all agree on that one?


This type of steal has never happened but I was reading the rules because I am the best commish and thought it might be worth changing.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

My first thought was "nobody's stealing any more, so it doesn't matter" and then that went to "if nobody steals any more, does that mean it's just too expensive" and then I realized "probably no, it's that nobody leaves anything worthwhile on taxi because it'll surely get stolen" which might mean stealing is still too cheap.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
Leper your face is a butt.

Just keeping this thread lively since we all moved to slack essentially.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Yeah good point.

Let's look at the standings after tonight's game. Some of us are eliminated from playoff contention, some are clearly at the top, but the middle bit is always interesting around this time of the season.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

The BALLS/Whalers match, which is within 3 points, can't be called for certain until the stat adjustments come through; but otherwise, the standings as of week 12 are set.

Division 1: Spermy Smurf's First Down Syndrome is in the lead at 9-3; Brick at 8-4 could still win out and take the division. Both teams are playing the Whalers and the Concordes in weeks 13 and 14, trading off their opponents. With the Whalers sitting at 7-5, they could win out and tie if First Down also loses out, but they're nearly 200 points behind in the Points For tiebreaker, so that's unlikely to win them the division. If First Down drops a game and BRICK wins out, they could still win the division. Only the Concordes cannot win the division, even if I somehow win out.

Division 2: THE PAIN TRAIN leads at 8-4, with HOMIE one game back and BALLS OF FURY 2 games back. PAIN and HOMIE play Structurally Unstable and BALLS OF FURY in their last two games, so just like in Division 1, any of the top three could win; for the tiebreaker, BALLS is about 130 points behind THE PAIN TRAIN, so again even if he wins out, 89 is unlikely to win the tiebreaker to win the division.

in Division 3, the picture is much clearer - Zack's LEGO Maniacs, at 8-4, has clinched the division, a playoff spot, and a week 15 bye. At 3-9 and 1-11, Chopping Wood and Team McLean are eliminated.

With 7 teams at 7-5 or better, any of my Concordes, Structurally Unstable, and the Gridiron Chefs - all at 5-7 right now - supposedly could go to 7-7, and if both the Whalers and HOMIE lose out and BALLS loses at least 1, there'd be a big pile of teams tied at 7-7 to take the second wildcard spot (the worst BRICK can do is 8-6).

Long Island Whalers and STRAIGHT BASS HOMIE's 7-5 records are the reason that the 8-4 1017 BRICK SQUAD hasn't officially clinched at least a wildcard spot; if 1017 loses out, and both the Whalers and Homie win out, there's enough teams at 8+ wins that in theory either one could still miss a wildcard berth. This seems like a longshot, though.

Because all of the remaining matchups are divisional, we can at least say this: Division 3 will end the regular season with the fewest wins (21), Division 2 will have 30, and Division 1 will have 33. Division 1 rules, the rest of the divisions drool.


A quick reminder: taxi squad thefts of or by teams mathematically eliminated from the playoffs are disallowed, per rule 9.12. The last theft window (from or by a team not yet eliminated) closes at Noon Eastern time on the Thursday before the final game of week 14.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Spermy accidentally submitted an invalid lineup, with fewer than the required number of WRs. I have used commish powers to remove Gronk from First Down Syndrome's lineup for week 12, which dropped his points but did not change the outcome of the match. Just FYI.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
I tattled on myself. I hate loving up.

Chopping Wood, get your IR situation fixed up. You have plenty of space on the squad.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
how and why does my team keep winning

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Teemu Pokemon posted:

how and why does my team keep winning

It's specifically to mock everyone who bothers to try at fantasy football. Your team's purpose is to throw our hubris in our faces.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004

Teemu Pokemon posted:

how and why does my team keep winning

You have 2 of the top 3 running backs. That's how someone wins every year; CMC, Kamara, Henry...

Alfalfa
Apr 24, 2003

Superman Don't Need No Seat Belt

Spermy Smurf posted:

I tattled on myself. I hate loving up.

Chopping Wood, get your IR situation fixed up. You have plenty of space on the squad.

?? I have 3 guys on IR who are on IR. Not sure what I’m missing.

Spermy Smurf
Jul 2, 2004
I cant remember names. It wasn't you was it... I always get you two switched in my head. You guys mind swapping teams?

It was the Kareem hunt owner.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

That's Teemu/Straight Bass Homie. He had Hunt still on IR, even though he came off on Saturday, but he had empty roster slots and massive amounts of cap space so it's not a big deal. I can see Hunt is already off IR now.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Standings update
The chefs/maniacs and concordes/syndrome week 13 games are both close enough that we can't be sure of their outcome until stat corrections, but for now let's assume both results stand (lego and concordes win):

Division 1:

Whalers won, and First Down Syndrome lost, and they play each other this week. If First Down Syndrome wins to go to 10-4, they win the division and clinch a week 15 bye; if whalers wins they both end up at 9-5.

Brick plays Concordes this week. At 8-5 already, if Brick wins (likely!) he'll go to 9-5 as well. Between the three teams, FDS has the most Points For by an unassailable margin of +175, so FDS would still take the division in any ties.

So, on paper FDS hasn't yet clinched the division - because supposedly he could score like 90 points while Whalers puts up 265 and catches him - but in the real world, he's got the division tied up.

Meanwhile, my Concordes are out. Even if I win, going to 7-7, that would still leave Brick at 8-6, and Whalers and Syndrome both at least 8 wins, and so that's already a division winner plus two teams with more wins for the season than me. I'm playing spoiler this week, which I love to do.


Division 2:
The Pain Train lost to Structurally Unstable this week while HOMIE beat BALLS, leaving PAIN and HOMIE tied at the top of the division, 8-5 each. They're not playing each other this week, so they could both go to 9-5. The Pain Train controls his own destiny for the division championship, while STRAIGHT BASS HOMIE needs to win and also for Pain Train to lose, because of the tiebreaker. If both PAIN and HOMIE lose this week, they'll go to 8-6, PAIN has a +150pt tiebreaker to win the division, and HOMIE would be contesting with other divisions' teams for a wildcard spot. The same thing happens if both teams win, except that this would put HOMIE in much better position to claim a wildcard slot, beating out a potential 8-6 BRICK and/or Whalers team. HOMIE is basically tied with BRICK in points for, so he'll lose any Points For tiebreaker against Whalers.
At 6-7, BALLS and Unstable are both just as eliminated as the Concordes, for the same reason.

Division 3:
At 9-4, LEGO Maniacs has clinched his division and a week 14 bye. At 5-8, 4-9, and 1-12, Gridiron Chefs, Chopping Wood, and Team Mclean respectively are all eliminated from playoff contention. Easy peasy.

Concord Concordes, BALLS OF FURY, Structurally Unstable, Gridiron Chefs, Chopping Wood, and Team Mclean are ineligible for taxi squad thefts for the remainder of the season.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

BIG NEWS
After stat corrections, LEGO Maniacs actually lost this past week to Gridiron Chefs!

The only change is that LEGO has no path to 1st seed any more: he'll claim 2nd or 3rd seed, and play the other 2nd or 3rd seed team in week 16. And Chefs still has no path to a playoff spot. Welp.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

BIGGEST NEWS!

All games finished by large margins, but it turns out that stat corrections could still be critical!

All standings are: Team (Owner), Record, Points For [through week 13] + [wk 14] = total
Standings are in order by seed

Division winners
Div. 1: First Down Syndrome (Spermy Smurf), 10-4, 2294.80 + 153.90 = 2448.70
Div. 2: THE PAIN TRAIN (89), 9-5, 2201.93 + 161.37 = 2363.30
Div. 3: LEGO Maniacs (The Zack), 9-5, 2064.77 + 157.42 = 2222.19

Wildcards
Long Island Whalers (Epi Lepi), 8-6, 2119.26 + 137.01 = 2256.27
STRAIGHT BASS HOMIE (Teemu Pokemon), 8-6, 2061.40 + 149.86 = 2211.26

Fuckin' Loser at least for the moment
1017 BRICK SQUAD (VietCampo), 8-6, 2049.43 + 158.18 = 2207.61 , for the moment

HOLY HELL that is close. If I hadn't beaten BRICK this week, he's in. If he had four more points all season, he's in. If he can close the margin with HOMIE through stat corrections this week, he's in! We'll get stat corrections on Thursday and that will determine who is playing in the wildcard match this week.

VietCampo
Aug 24, 2010
forgetting to sub out aj brown a few weeks ago back to bite my rear end

The Zack
Jan 1, 2005

Pillbug
Man, that's tough

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
on mixon's bye i picked up some dipshit replacement who had a Thursday game the next week that i didn't notice until after and got stuck with his 3 points so that probably evens out so i wouldn't feel too bad about that


e: brandon bolden week 11, and that week i also didn't realize until sunday morning that i hadn't set my lineup and was scrambling at 12:58, and the app crashed and i got stuck starting Bridgewater on a bye also so

if I were you I'd be more pissed at GC for losing to me that week anyway :v:

if i had actually set my lineup that week, just getting mixon and tua in over bridgewater and bolden would have gotten me 42 points, not to mention i would have started gage over edwards for another 9, and quinn/jones/abrams/mckinney over vander esch which was another 7 (mckinney) to 30 (quinn) points.


e2: 59.37 points i left on the bench that week (I assume I would have started abram, so i can't in good conscience "give" myself the 31 points from quinn, even if he probably would have been my 2nd choice) would have made this moot (and also pushed me over 200 for that week :(

Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Dec 16, 2021

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

STAT CORRECTIONS

BRICK: 2209.11
HOMIE: 2212.01

Brick picked up a point and a half, but Homie picked up three quarters of a point. Whalers still at 2256.27.

The call on the field stands. HOMIE gets in, BRICK is out.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
holy poo poo i won a playoff game

i think

89
Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
Grid look at your trade offer. I sent you a super offer

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants

Teemu Pokemon posted:

holy poo poo i won a playoff game

i think

DK can still put up 30!

If he puts up 40 I can win both this game and my redraft game!

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Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause
it only took 5 years but here we are

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