[poll] what's the best western?

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what's the best western?
	the good the bad and the ugly
	the magnificent seven
	the proposition
	back to the future 3
	best western (hotel)
	western digital
	kanye west
	west nile virus

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Chill la Chill: Don't lose your gay

I only saw back to the future 3 and didn't see best western (lol) until after the poll loaded with my vote already cast

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 03:18

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 23:33

Entropic: patriarchy sucks

All non-anime films are "western" when you really think about it OP

# ? Sep 10, 2015 03:18

Ralp: by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I don't like, and therefore have not seen many, westerns. When I told a co-worker this some years ago, he insisted I watch Unforgiven, so I did, and I did not care for it. Last weekend I told a friend this, and he insisted I watch True Grit (the remake) with him, so I did, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

After considerable introspection, I think the reason I say I don't like westerns in general is because I hate when characters don't have clear interesting motivations. If the protagonist is a cipher who just moseys into town for some reason, decides to kill some one-or-less-dimensional bad guys who are terrorizin' the local folk, and then rambles on out just because, I find that to be an extremely uninteresting character and story. I think the stereotypical western character is not a character at all but some sort of symbol of ruggedness and inscrutibility or whatever, which does not appeal to me. All of the characters in True Grit had excellent motivations and acted in accordance with them, and conflicted in interesting ways.

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 03:59

Lil Cunty

Ralp posted:

Shane

ty crap

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:09

alnilam

Ralp posted:

I don't like, and therefore have not seen many, westerns. When I told a co-worker this some years ago, he insisted I watch Unforgiven, so I did, and I did not care for it. Last weekend I told a friend this, and he insisted I watch True Grit (the remake) with him, so I did, and I enjoyed it quite a bit.

After considerable introspection, I think the reason I say I don't like westerns in general is because I hate when characters don't have clear interesting motivations. If the protagonist is a cipher who just moseys into town for some reason, decides to kill some one-or-less-dimensional bad guys who are terrorizin' the local folk, and then rambles on out just because, I find that to be an extremely uninteresting character and story. I think the stereotypical western character is not a character at all but some sort of symbol of ruggedness and inscrutibility or whatever, which does not appeal to me. All of the characters in True Grit had excellent motivations and acted in accordance with them, and conflicted in interesting ways.

This is a valid criticism of westerns and tbh a lot of the value of westerns is in their aesthetic presentation, they are just cool as gently caress and a pleasure to watch, to me. Some westerns do better than others at having depth.

also why tf isn't Once Upon A Time In The West in the poll :bahgawd:

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:15

FreshCutFries

Ralp posted:

I think the stereotypical western character is not a character at all but some sort of symbol of ruggedness and inscrutibility or whatever, which does not appeal to me. All of the characters in True Grit had excellent motivations and acted in accordance with them, and conflicted in interesting ways.

have you watched any of Leone's movies? the man with no name is meant as a satire of this exact observation.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:17

Lil Cunty

Ralp posted:

I think the stereotypical western character is not a character at all but some sort of symbol of ruggedness and inscrutibility or whatever, which does not appeal to me.

a symbol of goodness for the sake of doing good, righting wrongs in the name of upholding justice, a clear sense of right and wrong in an often ambiguous world

alnilam posted:

This is a valid criticism of westerns and tbh a lot of the value of westerns is in their aesthetic presentation

this is true. I appreciate the same elements in westerns that I do in opera or some ballet

ty crap

ty landy

# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:24

DeepQantas: Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...

Qwerinty posted:

west is a false concept, because everything is west from everything else, it's just a matter of distance

Santa Claus Conquers the Martians

boom x2

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:22

Qwerinty: by zen death robot

DeepQantas posted:

Santa Claus Conquers the Martians

boom x2

i haven't seen this so i have no clue what you are referring to

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:23

Ralp: by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

alnilam posted:

This is a valid criticism of westerns and tbh a lot of the value of westerns is in their aesthetic presentation, they are just cool as gently caress and a pleasure to watch, to me. Some westerns do better than others at having depth.

After and while viewing it, my friend raved about the cinematography (he had not seen it before, but had seen the original) in True Grit, which yeah once he pointed out was nice enough but otherwise not something I noticed at all. I was most impressed by the very smart, sharp, strong dialog writing and delivery, especially from Hailee Steinfeld and Jeff Bridges. I suppose the things I most appreciate in films are not the things that make westerns good?

Thingyman posted:

have you watched any of Leone's movies? the man with no name is meant as a satire of this exact observation.

no but lol now I want to

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 07:59

Pomp: by Fluffdaddy

kevin costern's open range

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 08:30

DeepQantas: Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...

Qwerinty posted:

i haven't seen this so i have no clue what you are referring to

North pole and Mars aren't west of anything :>

# ? Sep 10, 2015 12:33

tao of lmao

It's actually Firefly, OP

# ? Sep 10, 2015 13:12

Spanish Manlove: HAILGAYSATAN

A lot of spagetti westerns were filmed in the south of spain, specifically Almeria. I wonder if this is why my dad loves watching all sorts of westerns

# ? Sep 10, 2015 13:58

precision: by VideoGames

Old Yeller

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 16:51

precision: by VideoGames

that one album pj harvey did with angelo badalamenti

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 16:51

alnilam

the alvbum "the bees made honey in the lion's mouth" by Earth

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 17:06

alnilam

stephen king's the gumslinger

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 17:06

alnilam

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 17:08

DeepQantas: Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...

Seven Samurai

# ? Sep 10, 2015 17:19

Lil Cunty

6 string samurai

ty crap

ty landy

# ? Sep 10, 2015 17:45

tao of lmao

Omega Cop

# ? Sep 10, 2015 18:04

ulvir

kevin costner is rubbish

# ? Sep 10, 2015 18:26

DeepQantas: Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MepBeEpEQcM

# ? Sep 10, 2015 18:37

precision: by VideoGames

Lil Cunty posted:

6 string samurai

Lil Cunty posted:

6 string samurai

Lil Cunty posted:

6 string samurai

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 19:53

precision: by VideoGames

Straight To Hell also

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 19:54

Senior Management

while not intended to be related, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is clearly a prequel in the Dollars Trilogy. Not only are the dates in the movie earlier than those in Fist Full of Dollars and A Few Dollars More but we can see our Man With No Name acquiring his trademark costume piece by piece throughout the film.

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 20:37

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yojimbo

# ? Sep 10, 2015 20:53

Spanish Manlove: HAILGAYSATAN

Darkman Fanpage posted:

yojimbo

# ? Sep 10, 2015 20:53

ulvir

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Sanjuro

# ? Sep 10, 2015 21:46

BeanBandit: Beanbandit?
Son of a bitch!

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 22:24