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precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


Sliders. What in the gently caress happened here? Why did anyone keep watching it after John Rhys-Davies left? Did people actually give a poo poo about the Cro-Mags and/or Jerry O'Connell's evil twin (that did happen, right?)

Because you know, it actually was cancelled once, and yet there were so many Sliders fan sites (????) or whatever to make the Sci-Fi Channel want it to be one of their showcase productions? Only they stripped everything about the show that was fun (what if it was Earth, but like, some weird evil group of people are in control, like the Pope or something!) They replaced it with actual plot arcs and episodes-spanning developments, which were universally terrible across the board. They brought in Kari Wuhrer because I guess they thought "guys who jerked off during MTV's Remote Control when they were 10" was a prime demo?

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SexyBlindfold
Apr 24, 2008
i dont care how much probation i get capital letters are for squares hehe im so laid back an nice please read my low effort shitposts about the arab spring

thanxs!!!


Not sure if they cancelled Tyrant already, but they should have axed it more or less by episode 3 of the first season, I think.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005




Sliders always seemed rather mean spirited when they got rid of people. Oh, Sabrina Lloyd wants a real career? Well now her character is lobotomized in a rape camp. They don't get to bury Arturo and I believe Jerry O'Connell got some bizarre erased from existence end to his character.

Another thread reminded me of how Dollhouse got renewed even though it was a garbage show, which caused Fox to cancel Terminator: SCC. Supposedly Fox pitted both shows against each other because they wanted to cut one (due to both having low ratings) and Dollhouse won because Whedon cut the budget.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather


Almost human :colbert:

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub, I'm ripped!


Dexter Just end it after the Trinity Killer season and it would have been acceptable. The remaining seasons were poo poo.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

You're the Worst
Married
Gotham
Big Bang Theory
Two Broke Girls

ricro
Dec 22, 2008


You're the Worst is good, get that poo poo out of there

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]





IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



SlipkPIe posted:

You're the Worst is good, get that poo poo out of there

You just know this thread is going to be at least half people making GBS threads on shows they never liked to begin with.



the Simpsons probably should have been put down years ago, same with South Park.

Falling Skies was always falling apart, but by this last season they were really just doing whatever.

Mythbusters for obvious reasons.

Deadliest Catch has been pretty unbearably stale for 2 or more seasons.

The Walking Dead probably should hang it up and let the spinoff carry the torch.



I still watch and will continue to watch Survivor but it sure does belong on this list.


e: I might be alone on this one but even Walton Goggins chewing scenery couldn't keep Justified fresh.

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe

Pretty much every show that goes beyond five seasons. TV shows should only be allowed 5 seasons, total. 100 episodes. It would force some shows to stop with all the filler.

Plus, honestly, is there any show out there that got objectively better past its 5th season? I'm sure there are one or two, but those would be serious outliers.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



Archer.

Or kill off Pam, either would be a big help.

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

RUN IT BACK




Stargate SG-1.

Without RDA, it just wasn't the same. Should've just turfed the rest of the cast over to Atlantis and made it there, instead of only blonde space doctor, who was the worst character on any of the Stargate shows.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005




ComposerGuy posted:

Pretty much every show that goes beyond five seasons. TV shows should only be allowed 5 seasons, total. 100 episodes. It would force some shows to stop with all the filler.

Plus, honestly, is there any show out there that got objectively better past its 5th season? I'm sure there are one or two, but those would be serious outliers.

Always Sunny has had some really strong episodes past season 5.

Nouvelle Vague
Feb 16, 2011

Endut! Hoch Hech!


The X-Files should have ended with Season Seven at the latest.

Also, BTVS has good episodes after season five.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.





Sons of Anarchy should have ended after the second season.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!



No Butt Stuff posted:

Stargate SG-1.

Without RDA, it just wasn't the same. Should've just turfed the rest of the cast over to Atlantis and made it there, instead of only blonde space doctor, who was the worst character on any of the Stargate shows.

Either that or a spinoff where the rest of the team reveals the gate program to the world.

I didn't hate the Fargate seasons entirely (Ba'al being the main reason) but I wouldn't have missed them either.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006


ComposerGuy posted:

Plus, honestly, is there any show out there that got objectively better past its 5th season? I'm sure there are one or two, but those would be serious outliers.

The last season of the Sopranos was probably the best.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006


Law & Order: Criminal Intent was pretty good the first few seasons. I want to say it was seasons 1-4 that were pretty good.

It started getting bad when Chris Noth joined the cast, although I think that first season with him wasn't too bad.

Then they changed showrunners and the show became real bad. The writing was awful, the visual style changed, just bad all around. Should have cancelled it, but there were still a few good episodes here and there.

Then Chris Noth left and was replaced by Jeff Goldblum. Show started getting seriously terrible. Should have been put to death immediately.

Then Vincent D'Onofrio left and it was the shittiest, lamest main character departure I can remember, no one involved in that episode seemed to even give a poo poo. By this point D'Onofrio looked like a fat hobo. Show continued for an awful, miserable season with Jeff Goldblum as the main character. Really they should have just cancelled it. I think I stopped watching here.

And then I guess someone decided that the whole departure had been a mistake, and they did one last season where D'Onofrio and his partner came back with no explanation given to how they were back (I think they'd both been fired from the police when they left the show).

precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


muscles like this? posted:

Always Sunny has had some really strong episodes past season 5.

Seinfeld didn't even really hit its peak until seasons 6-9.

precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


Pedro De Heredia posted:

Then Chris Noth left and was replaced by Jeff Goldblum. Show started getting seriously terrible. Should have been put to death immediately.

The Goldblum episode where the criminals are a bunch of white hipsters living in a Brooklyn loft and Goldblum goes to a punk club and gets the "WHATEVER GRANDPA" treatment, and then he sits down at a keyboard and rocks the gently caress out on it for five straight minutes (and this is actually Jeff Golblum improvising) was loving awesome.

Never cancel SVU because it will never stop being embarrassingly hilarious and insane.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
turdiak


muscles like this? posted:

Sliders always seemed rather mean spirited when they got rid of people. Oh, Sabrina Lloyd wants a real career? Well now her character is lobotomized in a rape camp. They don't get to bury Arturo and I believe Jerry O'Connell got some bizarre erased from existence end to his character.

Another thread reminded me of how Dollhouse got renewed even though it was a garbage show, which caused Fox to cancel Terminator: SCC. Supposedly Fox pitted both shows against each other because they wanted to cut one (due to both having low ratings) and Dollhouse won because Whedon cut the budget.

Fox execs are some of the worst people.

"gently caress this British piece of poo poo! He probably thought he'd be the next Jean Luc Picard and now he's running his mouth. Let's fire his rear end and show him who's really in charge!"

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling


The Office (US) became a lot less funny after Jim and Pam got together, and became completely unfunny once Sabre bought Dunder Mifflin, at which point there were still 3 full seasons to come!

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
turdiak


For the sake of the thread

BlackAdder (waaaaah, we get it, WW1 was bad)

House (after the original 3 assistants left it was just garbage)

Supernatural (season 5 was a great end point, got hosed by its popularity)

Smallville (after he left Smallville for college/whatever it just became nonsense)

Broadchurch (Basically the UK True Detective, only way loving worse)

True Blood (schlockly vampire/violence porn runined by some stupid attempt at a mythos.)

Boardwalk Empire (Trying so desperately hard to be the next Sopranos it whiffed it hard)

Glee (I don't even know where to start, past season 2 it was complete insanity)

Heroes (Season 3 was full on batshit insane, to the point of a actual character in the show apologizing for it)

Scrubs: After Zach Braff left it got worse, and given the standard up to that point that's saying something

Big Love: Went off the rails in a desperate attempt to make it a cliffhanger drama. Can't even remember anything past season 2.

The Simpsons: Everything after season 8 is garbage lol! (I don't really care at all)

Earth: Final Conflict: gently caress this, milk the Roddenberry name as hard as we can.

Andromeda: Another Roddenberry IP? Rape it into the ground. Oh, Sorbo want's to direct? Let him, no one gives a gently caress. Slash the budget for season 5 and set it all on a dusty western planet.

Savahontas
Jun 13, 2005

I say..
Yea buddy!
Rolling like a big shot,
Chevy tuned up like a Nascar pitstop


muscles like this? posted:

Always Sunny has had some really strong episodes past season 5.

I agree! And King of the Hill. Adventure Time.

Pedro De Heredia
May 30, 2006


I don't think Boardwalk Empire should have been cancelled at all (and it was not trying to be the new Sopranos in any way, shape, or form) but I rewatched it recently and all the momentum in the show just dies after the third season finale.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



pentyne posted:

Scrubs: After Zach Braff left it got worse, and given the standard up to that point that's saying something

Well yeah but he also only left like 6 episodes into the final season.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!



ComposerGuy posted:

Plus, honestly, is there any show out there that got objectively better past its 5th season? I'm sure there are one or two, but those would be serious outliers.

Beyond Seinfeld which was already mentioned, you can make a strong argument for Deep Space Nine. Law & Order's peak was probably seasons 6 - 11. ER's sixth, seventh and eighth seasons were really great. Frasier only went off the rails in its eleventh season. I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011
I MIGHT BE A DECENT PERSON BUT I'M ALSO DEEPLY, DEEPLY STUPID AND SHOULD NOT BE REPLIED TO

pentyne posted:

BlackAdder (waaaaah, we get it, WW1 was bad)

No.

Also gives a good example of a thing that was good after the 3rd season.

Pron on VHS
Nov 14, 2005

Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling


Justified's Season 6 was really good, that show didn't really suffer as it went on, it only seems that way because Season 2 is the strongest and 5 is the weakest

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

RUN IT BACK




Justified's last season seemed to drag on. I feel like they could've done that entire Boyd/Ava/Raylan arc in the last 4 episodes and spent the earlier stuff on another villain besides Ted Danson's wife.

teraflame
Jan 6, 2009


Dexter should have ended after the first season.

precision
May 7, 2006

hug your posting pals


Pron on VHS posted:

The Office (US) became a lot less funny after Jim and Pam got together, and became completely unfunny once Sabre bought Dunder Mifflin, at which point there were still 3 full seasons to come!

The episodes with Spader being full Spader where okay, but even if you hated the entire show it at least had the courtesy of having a pretty drat terrific final episode.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

Pedro De Heredia posted:

Law & Order: Criminal Intent was pretty good the first few seasons. I want to say it was seasons 1-4 that were pretty good.

It started getting bad when Chris Noth joined the cast, although I think that first season with him wasn't too bad.

Then they changed showrunners and the show became real bad. The writing was awful, the visual style changed, just bad all around. Should have cancelled it, but there were still a few good episodes here and there.

Then Chris Noth left and was replaced by Jeff Goldblum. Show started getting seriously terrible. Should have been put to death immediately.

Then Vincent D'Onofrio left and it was the shittiest, lamest main character departure I can remember, no one involved in that episode seemed to even give a poo poo. By this point D'Onofrio looked like a fat hobo. Show continued for an awful, miserable season with Jeff Goldblum as the main character. Really they should have just cancelled it. I think I stopped watching here.

And then I guess someone decided that the whole departure had been a mistake, and they did one last season where D'Onofrio and his partner came back with no explanation given to how they were back (I think they'd both been fired from the police when they left the show).

You're right, although I did enjoy the Chris Noth episodes. Pretty much whenever they got rid of the courtroom part of the show is when the show began to dip in quality.

Maelstache
Feb 25, 2013

gOTTA gO fAST

pentyne posted:

Fox execs are some of the worst people.

"gently caress this British piece of poo poo! He probably thought he'd be the next Jean Luc Picard and now he's running his mouth. Let's fire his rear end and show him who's really in charge!"

Something along those lines actually did happen. According to fan-gossip at the time, Rhys-Davies was fired because some high-up Fox exec had a long-standing grudge against him, and got him kicked-off the show out of sheer spite.

The other thing I remember is that the decline of the show coincided with the arrival of David Peckinpah on staff. That guy sounded like a real piece of work.

whos that broooown
Dec 10, 2009


ComposerGuy posted:

Pretty much every show that goes beyond five seasons. TV shows should only be allowed 5 seasons, total. 100 episodes. It would force some shows to stop with all the filler.

Plus, honestly, is there any show out there that got objectively better past its 5th season? I'm sure there are one or two, but those would be serious outliers.


The Shield pretty much just got better and better until it ended.

VaultAggie
Nov 18, 2010

Best out of 71?

Why did Under the Dome last longer than one commercial break?

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006

Was ist das problem fraulein?


I don't feel this way now but when I was a dumb rear end 13-14 year old I pretty much hated Arrested Development immediately and when it was actually cancelled I rejoiced.

Tiggum
Oct 23, 2007


It's only had one season though?

No Butt Stuff posted:

Stargate SG-1.

Without RDA, it just wasn't the same.
But Ben Browder and Claudia Black were great. :colbert:

Pedro De Heredia posted:

Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Vincent D'Onofrio was terrible and the show only got good when they replaced him.

pentyne posted:

BlackAdder (waaaaah, we get it, WW1 was bad)
Blackadder just got better with each series. The specials weren't great, but Blackadder Goes Forth is the best of the lot.

Savahontas posted:

I agree! And King of the Hill.
King of the Hill was certainly still good after season 5, but it did get poo poo towards the end. Basically when Lucky joined the cast.

hemophilia posted:

I don't feel this way now but when I was a dumb rear end 13-14 year old I pretty much hated Arrested Development immediately and when it was actually cancelled I rejoiced.
The first two seasons are great, the third one is a clear drop in quality, the fourth is unwatchable garbage.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006

Was ist das problem fraulein?


Tiggum posted:


The first two seasons are great, the third one is a clear drop in quality, the fourth is unwatchable garbage.
Now and then I watch the original run from pilot to finish, and sometimes I'm even in the mood for that fourth season. I like the show now, it's just that at that age, something was absolutely not clicking in my brain and I did not 'get' the show.

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006



VaultAggie posted:

Why did Under the Dome last longer than one commercial break?

The first break was probably the cow slicing scene.

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