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Hi I guess? Never done Mafia, have no idea what's going on.
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Sep 12, 2015 20:33
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Opopanax posted:Confirming ##vote lumpen Getting on this bandwagon
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Sep 12, 2015 21:07
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HiipFire posted:you should vote him then Oh, we're formal about it then? ##vote lumpen SirSamVimes posted:To vote, type ##vote playername or an approximation of their name. Only ##vote will register on SA's automatic vote tallying bot. Ill admit it, that's kind of nifty.
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Sep 12, 2015 21:15
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Lumpen posted:##vote lowellDND That sounds like something a Scum would say. Additionally, YOU are the one doing the OMGUS vote. Scum confirmed!
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Sep 12, 2015 21:21
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Rarity posted:I'm such a proud mafia mommy 
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Sep 12, 2015 21:28
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Kashuno posted:You can trust me Okay. 
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Sep 13, 2015 00:46
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Lumpen posted:Newbies! Please be less shy! You must have opinions and reactions to some posts you've seen, share your thoughts, they will be very welcome. What is vig?
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Sep 13, 2015 21:29
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fiery_valkyrie posted:Acebuckeye, Chamale, Colonel Corazon, LowellDND and Someone Awful, Never played.
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Sep 13, 2015 22:55
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votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 What happens if we hit the deadline and don't have 9 votes on someone?
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Sep 14, 2015 21:25
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Im seeing some vote drop off from Lumpen, and I just want to restate why I think that’s a bad idea. Lumpen has: Introduced himself as unconfirmed mason, and tried to do the playful 'maybe I am and maybe I’m not.’ This is a sign of a guilty conscience. Furthermore, Lumpen tried to make alliance with Ernie, as scum are prone to do. Not content with that, Lumpen made a comprehensive list of rules for newbies to follow (one of which he violated immediately, with his OMGUS vote of me). This shows both that he is trying to control the narrative, as well as further proof of a guilty conscience. He lists such things as ‘over defensiveness, overemotionally, flailing, and sucking up’, all of which have been seen in this thread. This can be noted in a later post, when he argues that ‘townies need to talk, while scum stay quiet.’ This is obviously an indicator that he wants the town to think that, and works within that strategy to talk nonstop. As a scum, he thinks that this will show he is part of the town, but he doesn’t realize he has already revealed himself thereby. Vote Lumpen.
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Sep 14, 2015 22:26
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Interesting, we still have six who haven't voted. apostateCourier Colonel Corazon imgay Kashuno Lumpen Someone Awful! They might bear watching. And oh hey, Lumpen is in the list.
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Sep 14, 2015 23:57
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Still seeing a lot of spread out 1 and 2 votes. What say some of them move over to the 'Kill Lumpen' plan, so we can get someone knocked off on D1. Also, couple people still haven't voted. Suspicious.
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Sep 15, 2015 14:52
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apostateCourier posted:What's suspicious about not voting? Means scum get a free round to kill town.
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Sep 15, 2015 14:54
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Lumpen posted:Hold up newb. Did you read this post? Respond to it. Was thinking it over. You've convinced me. ##unvote ##vote Kashuno
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Sep 15, 2015 15:33
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Im not sure about Opop, but a lynch day is better than not.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:14
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Lumpen posted:What about Opop makes you hesitate to lynch him? Nobody is "sure". At least you're around, that reflects well on you. Haven't gone through all his posts with a focused interest. Ill do that now.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:20
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Okay, sure. Lurker with a lot of one liners. Ill vote Opop if we're going that way.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:21
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And thats 9.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:37
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I thought Hiip was scum? Why are we switching to Opop? (Not questioning Opop's guilt, more startled at the thread suddenly agreeing on Hip's innocence)
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Sep 16, 2015 02:05
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Opopanax posted:Keep reading Oh, okay. He officially died already? Thought that was flavor text or some such.
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Sep 16, 2015 02:11
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Is is normal to rack up a body count this fast?
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Sep 16, 2015 02:49
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Let's wrap the day up I guess. ##vote opop
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Sep 16, 2015 03:22
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Actually, looking back at it I'm thinking Rarity is a pretty strong Scum candidate. That seems compelling. ##vote Rarity
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Sep 16, 2015 23:03
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Actually, looking back at it I'm thinking Rarity is a pretty strong Scum candidate. Captain Foo posted:lowell, this is your only read in the entire game Yeah, that’s fair. Day 2 was a bit of a shoo-in, as we had 6 votes when I was looking at the thread. My reasons for suspecting Rarity: Started with a bunch of one liners, and then went hard for Lumpen (who was revealed to be town). Following that, they tended to be low content, skeptical of everyone, but not posting any effort posts. Instead, they simply went around asking people to give their own reads. Their second target was a town (who they didn’t give a read for, and showed little interest in it prior to their vote). And of course, they are now lurking. 'Ill post later, Im just tired and drunk right now.'
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Sep 16, 2015 23:57
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To me it reads like Rarity is trying to burn out the clock and not respond to accusations so someone else is marked for lead.
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Sep 16, 2015 23:58
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fiery_valkyrie posted:We have plenty of time today. Deadline isn't for 3 (real life) days. We've already observed a day end in 6 hours. The deadline isn't a hard one.
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Sep 17, 2015 00:12
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Captain Foo posted:who else do u find suspicious Imgay seems to have been low content thus far. I'll ponder.
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Sep 17, 2015 00:31
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town lowell probably town corazon foo ace neutral someone f_v maybe scum cham apostate scum rarity imgay Here's my current ponderings.
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Sep 18, 2015 04:13
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Rarity posted:So let's look at Lowell. He's also a newbie like Chamale and Ace, they all started the game quietly but unlike them he's still lurking on D3. And when he does post, what he posts has little of value. I like how you voted for me after I voted for you  That's not sketchy at all.Mostly this is my first game and I'm still trying to learn the ropes. As for the expansion on my list: town lowell probably town corazon - seems to have some good ideas and similar reads foo - posts often, seems to be doing good analysis ace - similar read as me when it comes to rarity, which is encouraging neutral someone - can’t get a solid read on them yet f_v - can’t get a solid read on them yet maybe scum cham - flavor fishing, but that isn’t necessarily proof apostate - something about them doesnt feel right, but Im waiting it out. scum imgay - seems oddly deffensive rarity - My reasons for voting Rarity: Started with a bunch of one liners, and then went hard for Lumpen (who was revealed to be town). Following that, they tended to be low content, skeptical of everyone, but not posting any effort posts. Instead, they simply went around asking people to give their own reads. Their second target was a town (who they didn’t give a read for, and showed little interest in it prior to their vote).
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Sep 18, 2015 07:02
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Rarity posted:It's your first game, you don't even know what counts as sketchy yet So do you want me to lurk with low confidence, or aggressively make claims with no clue?
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Sep 18, 2015 07:05
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Like, I can spam posts with the best of them, but Id rather try to be thoughtful about it
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Sep 18, 2015 07:06
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Since you did ask. Dead players Ernie -Town Hiipfire - Serial killer Kashuno - Town Lumpen - Town Opopanex Scum TMMadman - Town With that in mind, we need to look at who Opop voted for, and who voted with them. Opop voted Kashuno before dying. People who voted to kill Kash include: Opop, apostate, Lowell, someone, imagay, chamale, rarity, fv, ace, and corazon scum know scum, of course, so we can (tenatively) assume they won’t vote for scum. this means we can subtract the day 2 lynch (fv, lumpen, apostate, ace, corazon, foo, and myself). This leaves us with ‘someone, imgay, chamale, and rarity’ Looking at current votes, we have 2 for chamale (somone and foo), and 2 for rarity (ace and myself). if we assume scum won’t vote for scum, that that puts higher likelihood of chamale not being scum, while someone is. this logic also plays with the prior hunches of imgay and rarity.
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Sep 18, 2015 07:35
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Someone Awful! posted:This is a faulty argument, why would you assume this? Since Scum need to look like not-Scum they absolutely might vote for one another or be on another scum teammate's lynch. Sure it's a factor to consider but blithely assuming "they voted Scum so they must not be Scum" is naive at best and at worst, a deflection from ~*your scumbros*~ on the lynch Well, obviously. But drawing conclusions from such a small data pool is problematic at best. Slapping on some faulty heuristics might at least point us in the right direction.
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Sep 18, 2015 07:48
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Otherwise we go into things like 'no one can no anything conclusively' and base everything on the gut feelings. And we've lost 4 town doing it that way.
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Sep 18, 2015 07:48
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just based on initial patterns, Im seeing groupings of corazon/foo/ace/me and someone/imgay/rarity. with fv, cham, and apostate in the middle.
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Sep 18, 2015 07:59
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Chamale posted:I want to keep in mind that Rarity was the first to vote for LowellDND, while she was the voteleader and wanting to throw suspicion elsewhere. Of the others voting for LowellDND, I consider Someone Awful! fairly trustworthy so far, but ApostateCourier looks suspicious to me and I think Corazon's analysis above is drat good. So that's two suspect people and one probably-Town person voting for LowellDND. I want to hear how well LowellDND defends himself, but at this point I don't consider him a major suspect. My analysis isn't as developed as other players (first game), but Apostate and Rarity were both on my suspect list, and following Rarity going lead she switched to me (and seems to have brought Apostate with her). I will completely agree that my vote closed the 2nd day (and was band wagoning as all hell), but it was my understanding that we wanted to stack up some bodies to get some data. In hindsight I probably would have been slower to close that vote, and probably done more analysis earlier on. For day one, I was voting Lumpen until he persuaded me otherwise (pointing out how the mason thing worked etc), and then Kash because he seemed low content. I will note that nine other players agreed with me on that, so while I've made mistakes I've been in a lot of company. At the current time, I do think Rarity is sketchy, and a lot of the current strategy appears to be 'no u' while rallying people to target me after I made note of her sketchiness.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:55
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my earlier thoughts: maybe scum cham 1) apostate scum 2) rarity 3) imgay now voting against me 1) apostate 2) rarity 3) imgay someone awful I think I struck a nerve Increasingly sure I am on the right track. Someone, the colonel and I both have you tagged as non-scum, so please change your vote of me if you would 
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Sep 19, 2015 06:07
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Colonel no  I thought we were friends.Since Im the only one voting Rarity, Ill go for my second choice instead. I do think Rarity is scum, but that vote isn't happening today. So. ##unvote ##vote apostateCourier
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Sep 19, 2015 19:13
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Colonel Corazon posted:It's either you or AC baby today okay, so. burden of proof means that I have to show a_c is more suspicious than myself, not necessarily show I am without suspicion. as the thread as shown, several players view my newb posting as disturbing. what I need to do, then, is show a_c as more so. the first thing of interest is that a_c goes particularly hard for kash, who we know was town. following this, a_c spent her one shot cop early on, ‘at random’. however, the person chosen was hiipfire, the serial killer (who threatened scum just as much as town). she then voted for opop, which could be viewed as going with the town train. as we remember, there were no other contenders, with opop getting ~10 votes. this means that one could ‘appear town’ without changing the effect of the vote. finally, she tagged me shortly after I (and other thread members) marked her as likely scum. all of that shows a history of action that is self-benefiting for scum, while maintaining the facade of town.
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