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My line of thinking is, of course, the same reason I switched from Rarity. Having a protest vote doesn't do much, while getting a successful lynch vote is more important for town to succeed. So Someone and F_V have margin to switch, and Colonel seemed open to persuasion on priorities.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:36
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Rarity posted:I'll switch to AC if we don't have the votes for Lowell but I'm hoping she'll show up to answer some questions or at least drop some final reads for us I will say that if you switch to AC (and are the winning vote), it will confuse the hell out of me
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Sep 19, 2015 21:37
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Rarity posted:Have you not read anything that I posted today? Thus far, Ive thought it was scummy lies  If you aren't scum, then Ill have to go back to start and rethink everything.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:41
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Rarity posted:But then I could be scum voting AC on purpose to make you think I'm town! Or in the converse situation, I could be town not voting AC because I'm dumb! Do you not see the fallacies in your logic here? I think those justifications (deep cover or dumb) could be used for every single vote ever
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Sep 19, 2015 21:48
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Colonel Corazon posted:Rereading myself I definitely come off as pretty dumb. I know those feels.
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Sep 19, 2015 21:54
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Only have one hour left 
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Sep 19, 2015 21:54
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Im here, but Im not likely to change my vote for obvious reasons 
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Sep 19, 2015 22:41
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Anyone else find it weird that Ace hasn't voted yet?
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Sep 19, 2015 22:43
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Colonel Corazon posted:I mean I'm pretty indecisive at this moment but I will definitely vote to force a lynch. Agreed. AC wasn't my first choice, but it is what it is.
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Sep 19, 2015 22:45
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Sep 19, 2015 22:47
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Nooooo  - So I've went through all of apostate’s votes again, but there isn’t really much I can find of her cooperating with others. I do find Ace sketchy because he didn’t vote this round, and I find myself trusting rarity a bit more. Mostly though, I want to examine Imgay further. Apostate voted for Imgay on day1, then changed her mind when both of them switched to Kash, our known town. speculatively, that could be an indicator of camouflaging behavior. On day 2, imgay didn’t vote, and then on day 3 imgay participated in the vote to kill a scum. that would be odd behavior, given that the vote on apostate was so close. I dunno. I think imgay might be town, because it would have been easy to let that vote pass. Do we have any strong contenders for scum?
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Sep 20, 2015 02:07
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Current vote counts: Foo 165 Rarity 142 F_V 88 Imgay 64 Lowell 52 Someone 50 Chamale 48 Ace 44 I dunno. Maybe Someone and Ace?
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Sep 20, 2015 02:16
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Someone: voted kash (civilian) voted chamale voted lowell unvoted lowell voted chamale Ace: declared their NPC role very early on. voted rarity, switched to Kash (civilian) edit mistakes? voted hiip (serial killer) voted Opop (scum) voted rarity, unvoted rarity skipped d3 vote Ace comes across as very indecisive, voting for a d2 bandwagon and a serial killer. if we treat Opop as trying to blend in (and going for a substantial bandwagon), then Ace looks increasingly sketchy. for consideration, apostate (scum) ALSO voted for opop (scum). ##Vote AceBuckeye13
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Sep 20, 2015 02:48
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Acebuckeye13 posted:And yes, I am well aware that me not voting also doesn't help. Why is SA more guilty looking than you? My train of thought is posted above.
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Sep 20, 2015 02:53
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fiery_valkyrie posted:I think its either Ace or SA. This vote didn't get added to the OP, so you'll wanna check it.
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Sep 20, 2015 03:13
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SirSamVimes posted:votefinder.org says he's been voted for by f_v Ah, there it is. Splendid.
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Sep 20, 2015 03:23
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Im looking at f_v's voting record, and its... pretty okay. I think half the players have something similar (kash, opop) f_v voted rarity when rarity voted lumpen voted kash killed hiipfire (serial killer) voted opop (scum) voted SA voted lowell voted SA
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Sep 20, 2015 08:37
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kash: Opopanax, apostateCourier, LowellDND, Someone Awful!, imgay, Chamale, Rarity, fiery_valkyrie, Acebuckeye13, Colonel Corazon Opopanax: fiery_valkyrie, Lumpen, apostateCourier, Acebuckeye13, Colonel Corazon, Captain Foo, LowellDND of those who are still alive: kash: lowell, someone, imgay, rarity, f_v, ace opop: f_v, ace, foo, lowell of those who voted both: lowell, f_v, ace.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:44
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If we're looking at voting patterns, I think Ace is more scummy then F_v, and even that relies on the missed 3rd vote of Ace.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:45
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Did a check of Chamale just in case, but I don't think there is much there. voted lumpen started early with targeting lumpen, kash, and ernie (all town that I remember) voted kash voted imgay (unknown) double vote imgay double vote rarity (unknown) double vote AC (scum)
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Sep 20, 2015 08:53
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fiery_valkyrie posted:I think its either Ace or SA. Why SA over Ace?
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Sep 20, 2015 08:55
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Am I correct in thinking there is probably only one Scum left?
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Sep 20, 2015 08:58
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Rarity posted:Is there any good reason not to massclaim today? What is massclaim and what is WIFOM?
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Sep 20, 2015 09:13
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LowellDND posted:Why SA over Ace? F_V, not sure if you saw my question.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:18
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Rarity, who would your second choice be?
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Sep 20, 2015 09:23
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Rarity posted:Either SA or Foo, I'd want to reread both before going either way though. I feel good about all three of you newbies now so that leaves me voting for one of those 3 by a process of elimination. SA was my second choice as well, and F_v's first choice. Might be some meat there.
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Sep 20, 2015 09:26
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Captain Foo posted:reminder that chamale was seen as fairly scummy before the flavorpost so i think a massclaim is reasonable, and to that extent i'll claim Toast the Knowing, Vanilla Town Sure. Ill claim Keeper of the Seeds, Vanilla Town.
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Sep 20, 2015 20:16
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Which puts us at ...Rarity posted:More seriously, let's think about this. Here's the claims we've got:
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Sep 20, 2015 21:55
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SA is the only one who hasn't claimed, looks like.
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Sep 20, 2015 22:42
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Rarity posted:I'm just excited to see SA's claim SA hasn't posted in 30 hours / 5 pages. Odd.
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Sep 21, 2015 00:05
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so I went through SA's posts, grabbed every named mention: Lumpen ‘looking like a helpful townie while not doing much’ (town) Rarity ‘has townie vibes’ (unproven) f_v ‘what they said, basically’ (unproven) Rarity post ‘makes me question their alignment’ Lumpen ‘have a bad feeling about them (town) Kash ‘not making me feel good about him’ (town) 'people we haven’t heard much from:' opop (scum) (crosses off suspicion list) ace (unknown) colonel (town) lowell (unknown) 'don’t feel bad about tmm' (town) ‘tmm made good points on kash and lumpen’ (both town) ‘don’t like lumpen’s take on ernie’ (town) ‘suspicious of chamale’ (unknown) voted kash (town) ‘frowning at opop’ (scum) ‘kash and lumpen where logic leads’ (both town) ‘willing to vote kash, ernie, chamale, lumpen (3 town, 1 unknown) ‘why hiip specifically?’ (serial killer) votes chamale (unknown) ‘why are you double voting imgay (unknown) ‘rarity isn’t clicking for me’ (unknown) votes lowell (unknown) ‘lowell or chamale’ (unknown) votes chamale (unknown) ‘would vote shamble, lowell, imgay, apostate, most scummy to least’ (only apostate has been revealed to be scummy) ‘imgay is more scummy than AC because ac found the SK'
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Sep 21, 2015 00:21
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ace mentions: voted rarity (unknown) declared self cheedo voted kashuno (town) panic post/edit buy’s AC’s argument of hiip (AC was scum) voted hiip (serial killer) votes opop (scum) 'makes sense to delay vote on imgay' (unknown) ‘makese sense that lumpen was targetted (town) ‘raity is pretty strong scum’ (unknown) voted rarity (unknown) ‘supports a vote on rarity, imgay, or chamale’ (all unknown) ‘raity and imgay are scum’ (unknown) unvoted rarity (unknwon) ‘ac or lowell’ (scum and unknown) ‘rarity and imgay are probably town, foo can be trusted, shamble probably isn’t scum, leaves lowell, sa, and f_v’ (all unknown) ‘lowell or sa’ (both unknown) ‘leaning towards SA’ (unknown)
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Sep 21, 2015 00:36
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trimming the unknowns from SA, we have: Lumpen ‘looking like a helpful townie while not doing much’ (town) Lumpen ‘have a bad feeling about them (town) Kash ‘not making me feel good about him’ (town) 'people we haven’t heard much from:' opop (scum) (crosses off suspicion list) colonel (town) 'don’t feel bad about tmm' (town) ‘tmm made good points on kash and lumpen’ (both town) ‘don’t like lumpen’s take on ernie’ (town) voted kash (town) ‘frowning at opop’ (scum) ‘kash and lumpen where logic leads’ (both town) ‘willing to vote kash, ernie, chamale, lumpen (3 town, 1 unknown) ‘why hiip specifically?’ (serial killer) ‘would vote shamble, lowell, imgay, apostate, most scummy to least’ (only apostate has been revealed to be scummy) ‘imgay is more scummy than AC because ac found the SK’ That uh… that’s sure a record.
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Sep 21, 2015 00:39
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Ace mentions, on the other hand: declared self cheedo voted kashuno (town) buy’s AC’s argument of hiip (AC was scum) voted hiip (serial killer) votes opop (scum) ‘makese sense that lumpen was targetted (town) ‘ac or lowell’ (scum and unknown)
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Sep 21, 2015 00:40
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f_v mentions: (skipping joke phase cuz its long) votes rarity (unknown) defends lumpen (town) questions tmm (town) votes kash (town) kills hiipfire (serial killer) votes opop (scum) questions shamble and imgay (unknown) ‘guy says SA is scum’ (unknown) ‘agree with foo on being suspicious of AC’ (ac was scum) votes SA (unknown) votes lowell (unknown) ‘either Ace or SA’ (unknown) votes SA (unknown) arguments with rarity ‘sa is suspicious for not voting for Opop'
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Sep 21, 2015 00:50
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And if we take out the unknowns... defends lumpen (town) questions tmm (town) votes kash (town) kills hiipfire (serial killer) votes opop (scum) ‘agree with foo on being suspicious of AC’ (ac was scum) arguments with rarity ‘sa is suspicious for not voting for Opop' That's near impeccable.
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Sep 21, 2015 00:51
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Captain Foo posted:lowell what was the point of doing all that Eh? I thought the conclusions were clear. SA is the most sketchy of the bunch, but I was waiting for his response (since he said he just got back from his con). Unvoted ##Vote Someone Awful
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Sep 21, 2015 16:21
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Honestly, looking back on it I'm not sure. I started typing thinking I'd swing for SA, but reading over their posts again I think they may be town-they went hard for Lumpen, Kash, and Chamale in the first few days, but also defended Rarity when she was close to getting lynched. That alone is probably a strong indication that they're town, especially considering that Rarity getting lynched and flipping town doctor would have probably gotten me lynched next-a potentially game-winning twofer. So, even though their extended absence is pretty suspicious, I think I'm actually gonna lean against SA at this time. I've gone back and forth on you, but your actions and vote on D2 (Plus the fitting role and uncontested flavor) have shifted you into the "Probably town" camp for me. I didn't missed D2, I was final vote. I mean, its a bit awkward that it was Kash (town). But I definitely was there.
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LowellDND posted:I didn't missed D2, I was final vote. votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 2
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