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See you guys next Saturday.
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Sep 12, 2015 07:55
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Can I get in the vicinity of C6?
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Sep 15, 2015 02:10
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This is already shaping up to be a Chamaz-ing game! ##vote merk
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Sep 15, 2015 06:02
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Oh hey merk, we're neighbors!
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Sep 15, 2015 21:37
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Seeing that map makes me wonder how viable a final fantasy tactics style Mafia game would work out. Might be fun for a Soldiers game...
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Sep 16, 2015 02:33
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merk posted:I'm town. Let's all agree on that. Hey merk guess what, I'm town too! Let's tag team some scum this game.  ##unvote
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Sep 16, 2015 20:53
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Grandicap posted:Wait a second. Calling what I did a case is laughable. I made a horrible vote possibly. Let's take a look at what you are calling a case for a moment: This post makes you look worse, because your defense is "hahaha, you gave me too much credit for what was actually a lovely vote!!"
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Sep 16, 2015 21:05
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Grandicap posted:Maybe it is semantics, but it is about what the goal of your post was. A vote + reason for voting = a case.
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Sep 16, 2015 21:08
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I got prodded too. Uhh, give me some time to get some coffee in me, and I'll give everything another look. Mostly what I've seen is a lot of overblown nothing.
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Sep 17, 2015 20:48
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Okay I read over TMM and I don't really see him as scum. Having seen him as scum in the last game I played, most of his posts were completely empty word dumps with no actual content in them. His one big reads post felt pretty genuine to me and had some good stuff in it, and I like how he has defended his lurker callouts. I do think he could say twice as much in half the words if he put his mind to it, nobody wants to read eight-paragraph posts or posts with four quotes in them.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:18
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I've been debating whether I want to vote Grandicap, the reason I haven't yet is because I don't think scum would have stuck around defending the semantics of "case" for so long. Points against him for backing down very self-consciously, and personally I don't like anyone for town who characterizes their own play as scummy or scummy-looking.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:21
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Honestly outside of Grandicap my suspicions fall off pretty hard. I don't see Kashuno's case on MiR and even he didn't keep the case going on for long. BottleKnight's vote on TMM was a pretty easy one to make, but was it a scummy vote?? I'm not sure. I don't find Kashuno especially scummy either. Pretty much everyone else has left little to no distinguishing impression on me. So, might as well ##vote Grandicap while I see if I can find a better home for my vote.
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Sep 17, 2015 21:30
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BottleKnight posted:What do you think in particular of the fact that he's done lurker callouts on D1 before, to fake content as scum, and didn't have this lurkers-are-killing-our-community excuse? There's a nuance to my argument that him shouting over and over again about how bad lurkers are doesn't account for. I find the way that he defended his callouts predictable. Just because he did a lurker callout as scum in a game doesn't mean he has to be scum if he does the same thing again. Townies call out lurkers all the time. As for Grandicap, I'm not a fan of the "would have been smarter/known better as scum" line because it's WIFOM. Scum can make mistakes or bad plays. I get suspicious of players who self-describe their own play as scummy; town players should be confident enough in their play to not have that view.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:54
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TMMadman posted:No thanks. How about you give some opinions on someone other than me. BTW in general telling people you're town and you will flip town etc. over and over is only going to make people more suspicious of you. Here's a hint why: all of us are claiming that we are town and that we will flip town. Reminding us of that is not only insulting our intelligence (assuming we'd think you were claiming anything else), it's just plain annoying because we already know you're claiming to be town.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:58
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TMMadman posted:Honestly, I understand that but I'm also a bit of a nose tweaker and enjoy knowing that it gets under people's skin. I'm willing to take the heat from it. People aren't going to feel bad at all about lynching you, no matter how you flip, if this is your attitude.
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Sep 18, 2015 00:06
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TMMadman posted:I've never asked anyone to feel bad about lynching me, regardless of my flip. You're asking people to preemptively feel bad about your flip when you tell them you're going to flip town. What else would you be talking about with "it's funny after I flip?"
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Sep 18, 2015 00:43
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Meh I think the TMMadman lynch isn't a very good one, feels a lot like many other lynches I've seen where a townie gets caught off-balance early and never really recovers while votes slowly trickle their way over.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:03
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TMMadman posted:Hey, I'm more than willing to put my vote back on ANarc, but clearly I got resistance to it earlier. So why exactly should I be pushing it? You should have been voting Grandicap or someone else you could convince people to vote for that wasn't you. You're -1 so it's a little too late now.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:04
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TMMadman posted:Once again, how is Asiina's only two reads that I am town and Kash is scum? Not with the deadline in two hours.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:05
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TMMadman posted:Right now, I think the worst votes on me are BK who is basing it on a single meta point and then excused himself from the game. You come off as super defensive in every post, even in this one replying to me saying I don't think you are a good lynch.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:12
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TMMadman posted:Sorry, I'm just trying to put my thoughts out there in case I get lynched and knew I was at -1, so I didn't have time for tone editing. You're playing like scum: overworried about what people are thinking of you. Even in this post. "Tone editing" isn't something townies should be worried about, the whole point of playing town is that you can post honestly and take comfort in that knowledge. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt this game but it's super hard when you make posts like this which indicate to me your priorities and concerns are more about how you can avoid looking suspicious than about how you can get a scum flip.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:21
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Power of Pecota posted:TNL did you ever play in a game with Arkane? I forget if you were in Harry Potter 4. TMM reminds me a lot of Arkane. I don't think I have ever played with Arkane.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:22
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Keeping my vote on Grandicap, tracker claim doesn't do anything for me and is a reasonably common scum role anyway. Case on Grandicap: - awkward early vote on Pinterest Mom that he tries to characterize as a "joke" when he gets heat for it (no discernable joke in his vote) - calls his vote terrible and his plays scummy-looking, suggesting a guilty conscience - tried to spin suspicion back against the person who voted him with the argument of "you thought my early suspicion wasn't terrible!"
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Sep 18, 2015 02:33
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ljtrigirl posted:Yes, it is. His response read like he felt awkward for engaging early. Like he jumped in in a way that people didn't like and didn't know how to fit in. Being awkward in joke phase isn't a town tell... Also calling yourself terrible/scummy isn't a town tell either.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:44
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ljtrigirl posted:But he was trying to jump in. It's not like he was awkward while trying to just chill. He was trying to dive in. Yeah, no poo poo. You're saying this as if scum don't do this...?
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Sep 18, 2015 02:48
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Grandicap is not a new player.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:49
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Votefinder has Grandicap at 159 games played on this site.
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Sep 18, 2015 02:50
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Grandicap posted:I agree it isn't a town tell. But is it a scum tell? I don't think it is. Which one are you asking me about?
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Sep 18, 2015 02:52
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Grandicap posted:The selfawareness moreso than the awkwardness in my opinion. This one is super easy. Townies win on lynching scum, not on getting lynched. Scum win on not getting lynched. Their game is inherently about image control; if scum have a bad image, they get lynched. Self-awareness indicates you are concerned about how people view your play to the point that you're letting it influence your play, which is a universal scum trait.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:00
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##unvote ##vote Asiina vote consolidation, I think the case is ok if a bit of a shot in the dark.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:02
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Yeah wow I don't know what happened with that lynch. Last minute swing based on no real case.
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Sep 19, 2015 01:05
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Gee guys, lynching some guy last-minute because of ??? has really helped our discussion pick up!!
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Sep 19, 2015 07:20
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Grandicap posted:I feel like the case on Asiina is the absence of something rather than the presence of something. I am not a fan of cases like that. You need more than a day of sample size to draw conclusions from the absence of meaningful content. Reasonless vote, never mentioned MiR before this post. AnonymousNarcotics posted:##vote mir Reasonless vote, avoids voting Asiina because "the votes look bad."
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Sep 19, 2015 07:26
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I'm assuming nobody else has been posting because you're all loving embarrassed about making that awful lynch happen. ##vote Grandicap
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Sep 19, 2015 07:29
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:TNL I didn't not vote asiina because "the votes on her looked bad" but because I didn't see the case on her and a ton of people had jumped on the bandwagon without any real thought How was a vote on him better than a vote on Asiina?
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Sep 19, 2015 20:05
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##unvote ##vote Anonymous Narcotics
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Sep 19, 2015 20:11
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SirSamVimes posted:The thing that makes me reluctant to vote for Asiina is the fact that she fought against the TMM lynch when joining in would have contributed to a lynch that could have easily been defended because of how TMM tends to get under people's skin. WIFOM, could easily have been apprehensive about dropping a bandwagon vote on the #1 guy, especially if you know in advance he's going to flip town.
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Sep 20, 2015 00:51
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merk posted:TNL, what do you think of Asiina? Probably scum and it would explain the MiR flip. What do you think of ANarc?
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Sep 20, 2015 01:57
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##unvote ##vote Asiina
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