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Camel Pimp posted:To be fair, unlike Dragon Song, this is being portrayed as not much more than a boy who had a crush on his classmate. It's not being portrayed as some grand love story. It's still kinda insufferable, but at least they're not trying to make is think that this it's the greatest romance of all time.
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Oh! So I've been thinking about streaming Magic School Lunar, the Saturn remake. It will be in Japanese, a language I don't know, but it might still be fun to see the differences. I was thinking about streaming in three or so hours. Does that sound good?
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Oh, I'd watch that. But there's no English patch? I'd like to at least be able to have an IDEA of what the gently caress is going down. ...Wait, I rarely know what's going on in THIS game. Carry on.
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All right, be streaming in a bit.
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So out of curiosity, did you not get to that part before, CP, or had you simply blocked it from your memory? Well, either way I enjoyed the stuff before that event. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to delete my internet history and magnet my hard drive.
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I didn't get to see the stream. Did I miss something particularly horrible and/or retarded?
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I had only played up to actually arriving in Iyen for the first time. Playing blind for the rest.Derek Barona posted:I didn't get to see the stream. Am I correct in assuming I didn't miss much? Like, at all? Point being; if you wanna assume that the remake of this game is better, it's not. It's really not.
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Derek Barona posted:I am legit curious now. Can someone PM me what happened? Nothing important, just the 14-year old girl of a lead character being fully nude. Never before has the phrase "GODDAMMIT JAPAN" been more appropriate.
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Also, the encounter rate is bullshit. Super bullshit.
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Bufuman posted:Nothing important, just the 14-year old girl of a lead character being fully nude. Like... are we talking magical girl, or just... y'know what? I don't need to know this answer. I'm good. Let's move on. Forever.
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Let's move on, yes? Chapter 16: You Know What They Say About Assuming   Wait a sec, is this game going to follow up on a previous plot point? Well holy poo poo.  Oh goodie. Oh come on Ellie. Henner put in a lot of work for this statue. Don't rag on it before you've seen it! You saw what the "prototype" looked like, right? I didn't? You should have. But, Ellie, that's what it was. A prototype. Which means it doesn't look like that anymore. It's been a while, so Henner has undoubtedly improved it. And if he hasn't... Well, Winn, you wanna see something hilarious? ...thanks Lena, you're a gem.  O- oh!  What do you think? Isn't it beautiful? It's wonderful! I can't believe I helped you make that! W- whoa! Let's not carried away here. Well, color me impressed! I'd never have guessed that Henner was this talented! But isn't comparing her to the Goddess just a little over the top? Not at all! Ellie is just as beautiful! It's as if I'm looking at the actual Goddess herself! Why do I suddenly feel very uncomfortable? "Henner says that this looks exactly like the Goddess!" "I dunno, it looks more like Ellie to me..." "Could she be the Goddess Althena?" So as you might have gathered, Althena is the goddess of the land of Lunar. You might be wondering, however, why people think Ellie is the goddess. Well, Althena actually reincarnates as a human every once in a while; this is a major plot point in both Lunar games. The remakes seem to disagree about how normal it is for Althena to reincarnate, but this game pre-dates any of the remakes, so we're running off of the Sega-CD Lunars.   If this statue is of Althena and it's modeled after Ellie... We should report this to Memphis! It seems a bit spurious to assume that the goddess has been reborn from a statue. Shut the gently caress up Gary.And one screen flash later.  I just can't get over this! This statue is awesome! I know! Looks just like you, too! I've never seen anything quite this impressive! I wish I had been there for the Shell field trip. You really don't. But you know, it's kinda weird how everyone's suddenly I'm the Goddess. I mean, the statue's pretty and all, but you know, it's just a statue. I mean, for one, I'm nowhere near that pretty. I- mean, am I? Am I pretty? You're a beautiful tropical fish and don't you ever forget it. Uh, okay. Thank you. Still, what if people really start thinking I'm Althena? Seems pretty unlikely, especially since she's not supposed to reincarnate for a few hundred years. Also, Althena is supposed to have the most lovely singing voice in existence. And, uh... well, your singing isn't... bad exactly, it- I can't sing for beans. I know. You don't have to sugarcoat it. But you have a good point. I guess it's silly to worry about it. Let's just head back. Oh don't tell me.  I never would have thought! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-MEANWHILE   What's that screaming? Is that... me? なに? ... ...I think I'm okay now. So... you're Althena. That's great! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA    Why did you not reveal yourself? ............grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- Great, we JUST got her to stop screaming. Thanks for that. What did I do? AAAAAAAAAAAA- My ears are ringing... is that just me? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Are you done yet? Muh- Muh- Muh- Stop that. Look, if you've finally- I knew I was surrounded by idiots but this is ridiculous. Does no one understand that you can pretend to be a thing without being that thing? Or what simile is? How can my life be getting dumber?! Ellie. I'm not disagreeing with you about this. But I think there's something very important here that you're not realizing. What? This is hilarious. You know, you're right. This is pretty funny.  My prayers will be with you! I could get used to this.  I mean, you don't seem really... Goddess-y is all. Uh, no offense. No problem. I forgive you. Tha- thank you! Go in peace, my son. ...  but I'm kind of skeptical. ...you sure about that? I'm right here, and if you're wrong... Well, I mean... I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry! Um... Ellie, you think this might be going to your head a bit? Oh thank goodness she said it first. Lena, I never get to go mad with power. Can't I go mad with power just once? Oh that's okay. But Kule didn't believe either. And now he's a sobbing mess. Wha- Seriously, Ellie, you might be going a bit overboard. Lena, if this happened to you, you'd have the entire dorm singing to hymns to you within an hour. I... I can't argue with that.  What do you mean by that? I'm just saying, shouldn't a Goddess be around more... appropriate company? I'm about to make jaw more appropriate! That doesn't- I'm gonna break your face. Now now, Lena, don't take out your anger about being sho- If you finish that sentence I will break YOUR face. M- m- m- maybe we should.... leave? ...good idea. Let's get out of here.  According to this book, I found, the Goddess tends to appear as a human once every 500 years. But it also mentioned that she incarnated 200 years ago... Logically then, it seems unlikely that you really are the Goddess.This is actually a surprisingly important piece of dialogue here. First of all, considering the events of Lunar 1, this directly dates Walking School as taking place 300 years before Lunar 1. (And no, it cannot be after Lunar 1, if you played Lunar 2 then you'd know why.)   Then I guess she's way out of my league... Yup. Sorry. Not sorry. But, uh, you know, if you ever felt like, I dunno, taking a chance- I'll pass. I just mean, perhaps an immortal sometimes want to seek more... relatable company? Nope, I'm good. But, I imagine you must be lonel- Hey Elenora what's up?  Talk about making my senior year memorable! Being kidnapped three times in one year isn't memorable? ...something I would WANT to remember. why are you wasting your time here? You've- you've met the Goddess before?! How is that possible? It's not. He's crazy. I can't help but feel as though you don't believe me. It's possible. Alright listen here you little poo poo. I met her around the time of Dragonmaster Jian, you hear? I know way more than yo- With all due respect sir, there is no Dragonmaster Jian. I mean, history isn't my best subject, but I know the names of the Dragonmasters. Can't even keep your lies straight huh? I'm telling ya, I knew Dragonmas- Come on, this is getting sad. Let's just go. I CAN TURN INTO A BEE GODDAMN IT.  Should I call you Althena from now on? Wait, YOU believe I'm Althena? Why wouldn't I? Althena is supposed to have a beautiful voice, right? I thought you might have implied my singing voice wasn't very good. It just needs... practice, that's all. Oh, okay. *ahem* ~When I was alone- That wasn't an invitation.  At this point, there's not a lot of new spells left to learn. Life brings a character back at full health, and Fire Bomb is one of Ellie's best group attack spells. The thing is, I didn't get these two spells the first time I played this chapter. Yes, I played this chapter twice. Why?  Well, to continue on, all you have to do is go into the town square (you don't have to talk to anyone) and leave it.  But if this rumor spreads as fast as I think it will, it could get totally out of hand. Or at least Ellie's ego will. Has. I had a bit of fun. I never get to. With all due respect, this kind of seems like the part of the story where your mischief comes to bite you in the... the hiney. First of all, you can say "butt." Secondly, I doubt it. This isn't the sort of story with actual morals and a point and stuff. Wait- drat it Ellie! What have I said about the fourth wall?! Look, for once, could this just not turn into a thing? Well now that you've said it, it's probably going to. ... ... ...drat it.  It seems that Althena has incarnated in Iyen, my lord! What? How did you hear of this!? She seems to have modeled for a statue that was just delivered. You don't say... With Althena's power amplifying D's, we'd be able to move the Castle quite easily... Yes.Oh by the way the castle is sentient. And a... face.  From LunarNET He looks a little different in the remake.  If we succeed in this, D, will you help me take control of Winn? I cannot agree to that.  What? Why not!? We are your masters! You are bound to obey us! I care little for your petty desires. Lord Memphis is my master. You are but baggage. Also, I find your obsession with mind controlling a boy rather unpleasant. Baggage!? The nerve...! This is unforgivable! Silence, Barua! Our priority must be to capture the girl who modeled for the statue. ...Alright. Leave it to me. You? Is this not a task more suited to servants? This is the Goddess Althena, remember? Or... is there some other reason you want me to stay home? Are you hitting on me, Barua? Aren't I a bit too old for you? Go to hell. Master please instruct Barua to leave I do not enjoy her presence. Just you wait, D! I will place the power of Althena in your hands! Then you will have to acknowledge me as your master! If you can truly ensnare a Goddess, I will do as you say. I'll hold you to that! However, while I do not breathe, if I did, I would not hold said breath waiting for your success. ...man gently caress you guys. Master, why you continue to employ that woman? She is... I believe what your kind would call "a tool." Mostly because she doesn't wear a bra. I do not understand. I'll explain it to you when you get older. ...can I go now?  And then, D will belong to me... Heh heh heh... What a bother! What if it's true, though? I can't believe you of all people are starting to believe this stupid rumor. I- it does seem unlikely, but what if- Who's there!?  B-Barua...! How perfect! I can kill two birds with one stone! Wait, what!? Sorry, my dear, but I don't need you. Just the girl! And Winn, of course! Really, I should just kill you, blonde girl. Or leave you behind. Eh, too much work.  My! Well done Barua! ...Hm? Who are these other two? I have business of my own with the boy. The other girl is just a little bonus. You were just too lazy to kill the little one weren't you? ...no? What do you mean, "little!?" My, you do have spirit! But I'm afraid I simply do not need you. Remember, Winn is mine! As you like. So long as it'll shut you up about it.  N-no! W-why should I!? Don't worry, boy. She has candy in the back of her van. SHUT THE gently caress UP MEMPHIS.  Wow! That was pretty cool, Winn! What was that awesome display of power? That was just Solar Fla- I mean I don't know it just happened. But that's not important! Now's our chance! Let's get out of here!    Keep tellin' 'em maybe they should lock up prisoners before they interrogate them. No one cares what you think, Gary. D! Handle it! As you wish, Lord Memphis. After all of that, we finally assume control again. In case you're wondering, everything after leaving the town square happens back to back, which can easily take you off guard. It did for me, which is why I played this chapter twice. If this was any other game, this might gently caress you over. In this game, the only way you could get truly hosed over is if you really, really needed new spells.    There are new monsters from when we were here last. So, hey, they bothered.  Surprisingly, this isn't a very complicated dungeon at all. While we are in a new part of the Vile Castle, we only have to go through two and a half floors, none of which are that hard to navigate. There's also not a lot of treasure, only two pieces or so.  Suddenly, half-way through the final floor...  We've finally escaped! You can't run from me, Winn! Geez, you're persistent! I WILL have Althena's power! D! Obey my command! As you wish...  For whatever reason being paralyzed by a castle makes it look like you have cartoon stink lines. Just roll with it. Ellie!! Ellie! Hwahahahahaha! Good work, D! Ha- ha.... D! Ha! ... Wh-what's wrong, D? Why did you stop? I order you to restrain her! Bu~sted! Oh my god Gary this is why no one likes you. I see. Then my time has been wasted! Let us... dispose of her. Memphis, wait! Let me have Winn! Fine. I'll leave this situation in your hands. It would be my pleasure! Come to me, Winn, you adorable little thing! Uh, hello! He's like waaaay too young for you? C'mon! Let's fix her up! Thanks to this thread, I can't see this sprite as anything other than Barua sitting on a pile of poop. Anyway, this fight can be a bit of a toughie because the game doesn't telegraph that a fight is coming, so it's pretty unlikely that you've regened your MP. I didn't, first time around. I actually had to use two Starlights to keep going.  She can also do some nasty damage.  But Ellie is still fire magic champ.   Barua, I am displeased. You should have been able to handle a group of kids! Stand back. I shall kill them myself! Oh yeah?! Bring it on! Normally I'd encourage this, but I don't think we can take him. Why not?! Plot invulnerability. And you complain about me breaking the four- ah crap you're right.  Blast! It's Glen! How did you get in here!? What, are you kidding? It was easy! What?! How?! Aw crap we were supposed to patch up that hole in the side of the castle. drat IT GARY. Professor Glen! C'mon, kids! Follow me! Even the principal came for us! W-we're saved! Right. Time to beat a tactical retreat! Oh thank you sole responsible adult! Of course- I was talking to Professor Glen. ... How could you let Winn get away!? What part of "I do not care about your gross obsession" do you not understand? gently caress you Imma kill this old man. But then Glen stink-lines Barua! Not on your life! Ew. Pot meet kettle. Hmph! Fine then. Not like it matters. Hah! I never thought I'd see the day! Memphis.... How could you!? It would not be worth the effort. It's as simple as that. There's still hope for you, I think! Farewell for now!  Once Glen pimps out, the stink lines from Barua disappear.  How could you let them escape!? Calm down! An enemy with his back turned is an easy target. But, Winn...! D! Prepare to attack! Target all of them! As you wish.  Glen leaves behind a little sparkle for our hosts. How nice.  Some un-giffable screen shaking later-  Hah! I figured that you'd try something! And now, if you'll excuse me... You cheeky little... Glen!! I WILL get you back for this! ... Been a while since we've had a chapter this short! As for the remake, since Shell isn't in the remake, this chapter isn't there either. No one ever thinks Ellie is Althena. Actually, this is around where they put in the chapter with Richter and the butterflies. Kind of a weird choice, but what'll ya do? While there is no chapter where people think Ellie is Althena, there is a plot twist involving her. You see, you remember how in the remake Ellie can fly? Well, that's because, in Magic School, Ellie is actually part Vile Tribe! Yup, she's part demon!  Once again, taken from Lunar-net. She also gets a costume change towards the end! She doesn't in the original, though. But, hey, alternate costume. That's kinda neat. Camel Pimp fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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I am definitely not tempted to make a joke about Barua wanting to own D. There is absolutely no innuendo there and if there was it would be totally immature to make a joke about it. E: For real though they named a character loving "D" AlphaKretin fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Nov 15, 2015 |
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The number of hugs I would give this girl for the amount of bullshit she puts up with has started reaching DBZ bullshit power levels sorts of high. That costume change is pretty rad, at least.
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AlphaKretin posted:I am definitely not tempted to make a joke about Barua wanting to own D. There is absolutely no innuendo there and if there was it would be totally immature to make joke about it. That is a really poor name for a castle.
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EponymousMrYar posted:That is a really poor name for a castle. Honestly, for how bland and generic this game is, I'd have thought they'd just have soon have either called it A) The Demon Castle (Maybe 'demonic' if the translators were feeling like Shakespeare) or B) just Castle. Then again, that'd be just as awkward as just "D". "The power of Demon Castle will be mine!"
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I like to think they named it D because they were like 24 bytes over the limit on the cartridge and this was the easiest thing to trim out. Also, Camel Pimp posted:Thanks to this thread, I can't see this sprite as anything other than Barua sitting on a pile of poop. Victory. 
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Sordas Volantyr posted:Honestly, for how bland and generic this game is, I'd have thought they'd just have soon have either called it A) The Demon Castle (Maybe 'demonic' if the translators were feeling like Shakespeare) or B) just Castle. D is for Dracula.
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GrizzlyCow posted:D is for Dracula. Isn't "Demon Castle Dracula" literally the Japanese name of the Castlevania series? Excellent originality there, guys. 
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Derek Barona posted:Like... are we talking magical girl, or just... y'know what? I don't need to know this answer. I'm good. Let's move on. Forever. In summary: It A. caused all of us to agree to end the stream about a minute after. B. Left every one of us there no doubt as to the exact reason the remake never got a release outside of Japan. Is it just me, or is that face a decent bit reminiscent of Zophar's face in the Eternal Blue remake, when he's facing off against Lucia where Pentagulia used to be?
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I don't get why they removed this from the remake. Having an Althena fake out is a pretty fun plot twist especially if it would later turn out she's part vile tribe.
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Darth TNT posted:I don't get why they removed this from the remake. Having an Althena fake out is a pretty fun plot twist especially if it would later turn out she's part vile tribe. I got the impression from the explanation that it's because the school field trip thing never happened, so the party never met that artist who made the statue. Without the statue, it doesn't trigger the events and so forth.
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SorataYuy posted:Is it just me, or is that face a decent bit reminiscent of Zophar's face in the Eternal Blue remake, when he's facing off against Lucia where Pentagulia used to be? Actually, I kinda see it.
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Darth TNT posted:I don't get why they removed this from the remake. Having an Althena fake out is a pretty fun plot twist especially if it would later turn out she's part vile tribe. It's kind of amazing how close to a fun plot this game gets without ever committing to actually having a plot.
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Hey now, the sentient castle could have been from the exodus of Earth and just had an obscenely long serial number that started with D, so they just call it D.
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Chapter 17: Blue (Da Ba Dee)    Got any stories for us today? Haha! Good to see you all! But I'm afraid I wasn't expecting company. Really? Didn't you read the chapter's intro text? No one reads those. Also, remember what I said about the fourth wall? Sorry. Just remember to send a letter or something next time, okay? For the time being... You have me at something of a loss! Oh, but Professor Glen! Your tales are always very informative. Like that one about the sewers in Meribia and those three girls from Vane! Y' don't say! Ha ha! Don't tell Steele that I told you that story. Well, let's see... I guess I could tell you about the Blue Dragon that last visited Iyen ten years ago...As you might have guessed from the chapter title, this Blue Dragon is going to be important this chapter. You see, the Goddess Althena is protected by four Dragons, the White, Red, Blue and Black Dragons. They play a pretty big role in the plot, although usually the White Dragon is one of the more prominent dragons. By contrast, in previous games the Blue Dragon hasn't played as big of a role in the plot as the other dragons, so I guess this is his time to shine.  Door's open! Hyde, my good man! Isn't he the professor of astrological magic? Uh, how do you know that? I cannot believe he beat me to that question. I'm so proud. I cannot believe you people still ask these questions. I don't know. I just do. Glen, give us the low-down on the dude with the dumb hair and skeevy mustache. Yeah, well, he's sort of a loner. Mostly because he's a smelly prick with dumb hair and skeevy mustache. I've missed you too, Glen. So, Hyde, what is it I can do for you? It's kind of... sensitive. I already have enough blackmail material on you as it is. Why get gun-shy now? I was more referring to your young guests. I dunno we've heard some stories from Glen. Don't tell me you told them about that thing that happened in the Meribian sewers. Okay, I won't tell you. ...just get rid of the drat kids. Alright, then. You three, I'm afraid that the story will have to wait. Teachers only, eh? Fair enough. We'll be back later!  Huh, I can't believe they didn't fight me on this. Well, if you're staying, so am I.  Um, hello to you too, Hyde. I think I missed something; WHY do you need to create a new star? Research, obviously. ... ... ...obviously. All of the magic in the universe will be drawn to it! If I can analyze that energy, all of the most profound mysteries of the universe will be laid bare! What you propose would be extraordinarily hard, not to mention time consuming. You'd need many lifetimes to accomplish this! Tinkering with the flow of time is not something to do lightly... You're a Guardian of Time though, right? You could-- Bad idea. You might even say it's a... astronomically bad idea. ... You are the least fun person I know. And I know Steele. It's all about cause and effect. Idly toying with time could create time paradoxes, or even Moebius loops. I don't think you know what a Moebius loop is. And I don't think you understand what a bad idea this is. Point is... Untangling that little mess would not be fun! ...I understand. I guess I'll have to give up on this project. Without your help, I don't think I'd get very far... Sorry I couldn't help you.   I didn't realize that Time Magic was so dangerous! Maybe I shouldn't use it anymore... Wait, you can use Time Ma- Hey, Winn? Here's some free advice. If you give up, you'll never, ever succeed. We gain strength from our failures. Oh, Lena... You'll be fine, Winn. Ellie... You're right! I'll do my best. We... we are talking about my Time Magic, right? What? Yeah I'm kind of unclear on that too. Oh, I uh... it kinda turns out that I might have the latent ability to control the flow of time. ...wow, that sounds really dangerous. I don't think you should mess around with that.  At this point we regain control. We could actually choose to not talk to Glen and leave instead.   But it would not be a smart idea to leave yet. Yup, he teaches you magic too! Red D(ragon?) is another multi-target attack spell. It costs slightly less MP and is slightly weaker than Winn's Blue D(ragon) spell. Flaze is still better for boss killing though; nothing really ever dethrones Flaze as your boss killing spell.  You can hear the rest of it from Steele!Anywho, he's still not going to tell the rest of the drat story. So off we go.  Glen's cabin is in the middle of a short forest area.  And there are random encounters!  And, uh, that's about it. Back to Iyen!  go and see the Blue Dragon.For the most part, everyone in Iyen is hype about the Blue Dragon.   Well, most everyone.  But, yeah, it seems like this is a regular occurrence. In previous Lunar games, none of the Dragons ever really left their cave and did things, with one or two exceptions. Then again, in previous Lunar games for the most part the Dragons were in danger of being incapacitated/dead, or already out of the picture. So, uh, I guess there's no reason the Blue Dragon can't go visit a town every 10 years.  ...who? The vice president of the student council. Who? ...the girl that keeps getting kidnapped. Ooooooh. You know, there's a lot more to her than that. She's top of her class, on the fast track to getting in Vane, hosts the charity dinner every year without fail, leads the local Zealots for Zophar group- Wait what. She's just so cool! Blue. Yeah, I figured. Other than Blue, what does the Blue Dragon look like? A Dragon. ...how are you guys scholarship students?   Okay, this is not where I was expecting to find Ghaleon's ancestor. Was this before or after you helped Dragonmaster Jean kill the evil bees? First of all, I'd like you to can it with the bee racism. Secondly, it was Dragonmaster Jian. And lastly, I'm going to stop letting you in if you're just going to insult me. Why let us in at all? ... ... ...I'm so lonely. Oh! I'm... I'm sorry. Not a lot of people come by and visit the "crazy man." I never thought of it that way. I- wow. ...you know, maybe we should go ask everyone in town to come visit you. Tell them that you're not so bad. Maybe they'll look at you in a different way. That sounds lovely. Well... everyone except Emma. Why? She knows why. And Iason. Screw that guy. Oh, and Richter. I will not have anything to do with that dirty butterfly lover. Should string that bastard- Okay, that's our cue to leave!  but instead I'm stuck here training! I kept trying to explain that this might literally be a once in a lifetime opportunity, but he starting going off about MAN this and MAN that, and that was my cue to drop it.  Push it, MEN! Burn those muscles! Um, "Blue Dragon." Excuse me?! It's... it's the "Blue" Dragon not the "Blud" Dragon. As in, one of the Goddess Althena's divine guardians. Yes. Oh. Crap, I've really misunderstood what everyone was talking about. Hm. Oh well, in for a penny. C'mon men, WORK IT! Oh hey let's actually talk gameplay for a moment. First off, I finally got my whole party outfitted in the best robes.  Had to make a bit of room, though. At this point, money would only be useful if I decided to load my inventory up with MP healing items.   Speaking of which, I didn't realize that later on the shops sold these items. They both restore HP and MP for a single character, with Sunshine being the more powerful item. (Kind of an awkward name for an item there. This item is called Sun Radiance by LunarNET, which is also rather unwieldy but a bit less weird.) There's no point in buying them, though. I can make Sun Sparkle by combining Protect Water and a Sun Herb, and those two items combined only cost 745 silver. Sunshine comes from a combination of Mystery Water and Sun Herb, which comes out to 870. So, yeah, a lot cheaper to make these items. However, even making Sun Sparkles and Sunshines take a lot of money, so I can't really fill my inventory with them, but it's not like I need to.  Oh yeah, and I did mention Sun Herbs. Yeah, there is an item called a Sun Herb, and the shop sells them a bit later on. They temporarily boost max MP. Mostly they're good for mixing, though.   Glen and the Blue Dragon have a deep relationship!In any case, let's get back to plot.  By the way, if you talk to Steele from the side, the party will still line up in front of him, but he'll still be turned in the direction you initiated the conversation from. Not a major thing, but a funny little oversight none the less. That or Steele has a hernia and he's refusing to admit it.  every ten years? My teacher... In other words, Professor Glen... He and I are Guardians of Time. We make sure that time continues as it's supposed to. We've heard this much before. Uh, we haven't. Wait, Guardians of Time? What? Why do you- when- how- Glen protects the time stream from those who would alter it. I, on the other hand, protect Iyen. The island acts as a sort of eddy in the time stream... I am so lost right now. Ditto. It's- it's weird, yeah, but... it's a bit easier once you wrap your mind around the basic idea. I guess that's the problem. I mean... it's time. Who can futz with time itself? It just... goes, right? Most people think time is like a river that flows swift and sure in one direction. But I have seen the face of time, and I can tell you: they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm. What? Well then, just imagine four balls- No. Look, we just want to know one thing- Time is drawn to Iyen, and it converges here before spinning back out into the world. The Blue Dragon comes once every ten years to make sure that there are no disastrous rifts in time. Professor Glen and the Blue Dragon must be pals! You're not too far off the mark. Although I'm not sure why that is the first conclusion you came to. To be perfectly honest, I'm kinda lost now too. THANK YOU. Either way, the time draws near. We should be able to see the Blue Dragon. And right on time.  Sadly, Game Gear limitations means that the Blue Dragon's flight is... less than majestic.  But we can't have a Dragon in a Lunar game without some bad poo poo happening to it.  ? It's... falling... Near the Star Tower, I think! You mean that tower on the far right side of the island? Wow, sir, you have really great eyesight. Well the Blue Dragon is hard to miss. Why am I on the wa- Aw crap we're shaking.   I was wondering when you'd show up! Any idea what happened? This might be Hyde's doing... Oh no, he was actually serious about his "star" idea. Sadly so. I'd better check in on the Blue Dragon. But given the Vile Tribe's propensity to take advantage, I want all of you to stay and defend Iyen.  Principal Steele, let us know if there any developments. Of course. I'll call for you if and when the times comes. I can't believe he fell for that. I know right. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity! We've GOT to go see the Blue Dragon! This is one chance I am not going to let pass me by!  So, uh, for the most part no one has much to add to the Blue Dragon falling, so to the Star Tower we go. Oh, and as a random aside, in Lunar 2, there's also a location called the "Star Tower." Although strictly speaking, it's actually the Star Dragon Tower. Still, it's called the Star Tower a lot in Lunar 2, so at first I was a wee bit confused. Anyway.   We'd better move fast... I've got a bad feeling about this. I hope the Vile Tribe hasn't caught on.  Huh, this dungeon looks simple. This should be a breez-   Psyche! It's been too long since we've had a dungeon that was over-long and maze-y. Time to fix that.    Also, a lot of enemies use magic here, so they do pretty high damage. Also, Psi Storm and Bolt God are multi-target.  And it doesn't help that the way through the dungeon takes you up and down stairs somewhat arbitrarily, so I got turned around a bit. Still, there's no branches in the path, so the dungeon is just mind-numbingly boring rather than hair-pullingly frustrating. It's not like it's as bad as the Grindery from Lunar 1.  But, as a dungeon in Walking School, there's really nothing to say about it in the end. So let's cut off of here, and when we come back DRAMA!! Camel Pimp fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Wit a minute, in the corner, that's neither a young boy nor is it Leonora!  This is serious!Also I really want to hug those monsters. 
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Nov 23, 2015 08:50
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My God, is that something resembling an important plot? I thought I'd never see the day.
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Nov 23, 2015 10:35
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Obligatory dragon getting dunked on, check.
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Nov 23, 2015 17:00
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Let's see how the game squanders this - it's aggravating there's points where it could have an interesting plot that might actually tie it more to the Lunar series proper, but it all comes out as a wet fart of waste.
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Nov 23, 2015 22:43
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Camel Pimp posted:
Wait, that's not how it happened. Given how aggressively they're foreshadowing stupid time bullshit, I can only imagine it's not actually going to be relevant at all.
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Chapter 18: The Drama You've Been Craving Last time, there was the Blue Dragon, a dude named Hyde did something dumb, and Vile Tribe. And now, Drama!  Barua, no! I really don't have time for this! You always talk big! Put up or shut up! Oh my! Aren't you forward! Put UP! UP! Argh! Time to die, old man! Be thankful it was I who brought you to the brink! Oh stop flirting with me. I will dig your heart out with a spoon! Y-you! Professor Glen! Leave Barua to us! Do what you have to! I'm sorry! I'll leave her to you! Coming through. Pardon me. Not so fast! Ellie and co. vs Barua and her poo cape: round three!  Again, Barua gets a major advantage because the trigger for the event and subsequent boss fight isn't obvious, and thus I didn't restore my MP beforehand. At least everyone else is doing good, but Ellie, my main bosskiller, is running on fumes.  Also, I haven't mentioned it, but Starlights don't restore much MP.  But it's enough.  Quick! Stomp on her face before- Right, she can teleport. Crap. Anywho, let's see what Mr. "I Thought Making a Star was a GREAT Idea" has to say for himself. (The sprite there is Hyde.)  This... is all my... fault... Are you okay, Professor Hyde? I'll get you fixed up right away! Oh... Th-thanks. That's much better. Whatever happened to you? Vile Tribe. Yes, I know. Before that! I... I thought that I might be able to use the Blue Dragon's power. What? Why!? When Glen turned me down, I just thought... The dragon is drawn to this tower, so I sealed it in a crystal as it passed by. But that much magic power...! Also ...uh... That doesn't explain "why." Because the Blue Dragon has the power I need to complete my goals. To... make a star, yes? Indeed. What's your point? Why did you want to make a star again? Research. ...and making a star was the only way to do this because...? ... And that about sums it up, doesn't it? Yeah... To make matters worse, the Vile Tribe found out, and they're trying to steal the Dragon's power! That figures! They'll pay for this! Here, please, take this. It's the least I can do to atone... This is a full HP/MP heal for the party. This is also the only one of these items in the entire game. I don't really think it makes up for getting the power of the Blue Dragon in the hands of the Vile Tribe, but, uh, the thought's nice.  Wha- what will you do now, sir? I need to stop chasing stars. Stick to the comets and meteors I'm used to. That's probably for the- Wait, don't tell me you're actually making comets and meteors? Okay, I won't tell you. It was nice meeting you kids, later. You know, it's not worth it. Let's just go and find Glen.At this point, it's probably a good idea to take advantage of the lull in action and wait for the party's MP to come back.    Stop it, Memphis! That much power will tear your body to pieces! Hahahaha! Yours is but the howling of a wounded dog, Glen! I mean it! You won't be able to contain all that power! Shut up, you senile old fool! Do you really think I'd believe you, after you killed my father? I never killed your father. Oh, that's what you want me to bel- No, I have no idea what you're talking about. I think you might be thinking of the remake. The remake of what!? What are you babbling about, old man? Just.... nonsense I suppose. Out of my way.   Lena, why are you smiling?! I- I'm happy to see him? Being thrown across the room?! I- I don't know! Where's that purple light coming from?  Haha! The power of the Blue Dragon... It's mine! All mine! I have no more need of this pile of flesh. So he chucks the crystal out the window.  Where it turns into the Blue Dragon. I was kind of under the impression that the crystal WAS the power of the Blue Dragon and not the Dragon itself, but okay whatever.  What, you lot are still here? How could you? How DARE you? Professor Glen... Oh, you are history, guy! Fine...! With the power of the Blue Dragon... I will destroy all of you!!! Uh... Please put your clothes back on. NEVER! I'm just glad he has that snake. ... ...he he. Ha ha! Guess I walked into that one. Naked Memphis here is a tough sumabitch.  And he packed a punch. By the way, that was the damage done to Ellie, who is by far the toughest party member here.  poo poo, this could be bad.  Oh, whaddya know, you can't handle the power after all. You- you- Awesome intelligent girl? I know. C'mon guys, he's weakened! Lena, get Winn on his feet. Now's the time to- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA  Ellie you need to kill that with fire NOW!! I will never di- Crap. You're gonna die. Melting seems to have lowered Memphis's defense. Now that we're in the winnable part of the battle, Liquid Memphis can't do much to us.  He still has a (much weaker) Fire Bomb, but he rarely uses it. Mostly he just attempts to attack and fail. Admittedly, he could have taken Winn out in the first round if I had been unlucky, since dead party members are revived after battle but only at 1 HP, but he didn't and Lena could easily heal Winn in time.  And we get a healing item for this fight. That's cool.  Memphis' body absorbed too much power, and couldn't take it...  What? Did something happen? I just saw a blue light and a white light... Guys! Professor Glen! Oh no! Professor!! Professor Glen, we beat Memphis! Although he had to kinda... melt first. But we beat him! ...Oh... You... Beat him...? Also... Memphis, I... CALLED IT! ...oh... that hurt... Hang on, Professor! I'll heal you! This should do it... Spare yourself the effort. My life... is coming to a close... Y-you're joking, right? T-that's not even funny! She's right! Professor Glen... There's still so much that you haven't taught me yet... No no no... No! You're the only the only adult in our lives that's ever been even half-concerned about our safety! Wow... you really are. Please... don't... cry. B-but... You can't tell us not to cry! You're like family to us, Glen! It makes me happy... to hear that. Winn... Learn well what Steele can teach you... I-I will... Ellie... Lena... I'm sorry I could not... live to see you graduate... Live on... All three of you... This can't be... I don't believe it! W... Waaaah! No... No... Ugh... The Blue Dragon! ...It's... Alive? I may have been robbed of my power, but that will return, in time. But... time won't bring Professor Glen back... The parting of the ways is always a sad affair. Winn. Please, accept this ring. For me...? You look so down. Glen would have preferred to see you smile. I see... Thanks. A fine response, indeed. Glen would be proud. Is he being sarcastic? Emotional moment Ellie. Not the time. And now, you must return to Iyen. Steele will be worried. ...Yes. If you're confused as to why the Dragon gave this boy a ring, well in Lunar 1, the White Dragon Quark gives Alex a ring as a symbol of their meeting and Alex's commitment to becoming a Dragonmaster. (It suddenly occurs to me that I think this is the only Lunar game that never mentions Dragonmasters once.) Anywho, this ring is a call-back to the first game. As to why Dragons give out rings at all, that I'm unsure of. All right, we're getting derailed. Back to Iyen.  You're all okay! Where have you been!? Principal... We... Um... Hm? What's wrong? Did somet- WewenttothetowereventhoughyoutoldusnottotheVileTribewerethereandwekickedtheirassesintoSundaybutGlendiedandtheBlueDragondiedkindaI'mnotsurebutGlenisdead!!! Yes... Professor Glen... And the Blue Dragon... Oh, that's right! The Blue Dragon gave me this. Oh my! Sir? That was an abrupt tone shift. Erm, I mean- I will mourn my teacher on my own time, but I assure you that it wasn't your fault. In fact, I think you'll find a silver lining in all of this. Silver lining? I saw a man bleed out in front of me. Uh.... *Ahem* What do you mean by that? That ring is only bestowed upon true Guardians of Time. The Blue Dragon chose you, Winn. The ring is proof of its trust in you. No way! I'm not cut out to be a Guardian of Time! You've got to take life by the reigns and give it all you've got! That's what I call respectable! What would Professor Glen say if he heard you whining? It's always the same drat thing with you! I hate it when guys don't have any confidence in themselves! Lena... S-sorry... Stop apologizing! Sorry. STOP THAT. SORRY! AAAAAAH! WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO SAAAAAY? *Ahem* Lena's right, you know. When you were in the tower, did you see a blue light? I... I did. What you saw is a manifestation of the flow of time. True Guardians are the only ones able to see that light. The Blue Dragon chose you. It believed in you. What do you say? ... Alright. I'll give it my best. Well said! And while you're all here... Yes? What?! When? How!? We've only been here for like 6 months! Actually, you've been here for two years. I thought it was a year and a half. ...time IS an illusion. Regardless of how long we've been here... Do you really think we're ready? This spring, Iyen will stop near home. You're welcome to live here for free until then. That's very kind, sir, but that's not an answer. I mean, how do you normally determine if someone is ready to graduate? You've defeated a high ranking sorceress of the Vile Tribe twice. There is nothing more we can teach you. I appreciate the honesty. Of course, if you wish to continue studying at Vane, that's another story entirely...I've mentioned Vane in passing, but not explained it. Vane is a floating island that also houses the prestigious Magic Guild. It's one of the few locations that's in both Lunar 1 and 2, and in terms of the series backstory it's pretty important. And of course it's not in Lunar Dragon Song. Huh? No way! So, uh what's going to happen to me? And you, Winn, are still quite green around the gills! I have quite a lot to teach you. I know, but... Wow, my only friends here are going to be leaving. I'm not sure how I- Haha! Well, for now, I suggest that you all get some rest. You've had quite a busy day. There will be plenty of time to worry about the future later. Yes... We'll be going now.  I'm going to miss then.[sic]And with that mood ruining typo we-  Those kids will get theirs! With both the power of the Blue Dragon and the strongest of demons under my control... The end of Iyen is near! Hahahahahah! Oh no, the less competent of the two main villains is still out there! Whatever will we do?! Switching gears for a bit, in the remake this is another chapter that's actually somewhat close to the original. However, Hyde actually gets to be in two chapters in the remake, the first one being what looks like a filler chapter that doesn't have an equivalent in the original. Basically you accidentally wreck Hyde's McGuffin, and then get it repaired, and there's also foreshadowing. As for the chapter with the Blue Dragon, there's a couple more major differences. For one, Senia (and Azu) come back! Bringing the party total up to six people! Oh, and at the end, Memphis doesn't melt from absorbing the Blue Dragon's power, your party beats him up anyway, and Barua herself actually finishes Memphis off. So I guess she's a little more threatening there. Next time, our ladies are graduating! How long we've come... in this directionless, pointless, non-journey. Camel Pimp fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Aug 21, 2016 |
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Camel Pimp posted:
Little typo there, just so ya know. Though that might actually make that little bit funnier. Dammit, Glen, why'd you have to go? You were one of like... 3 decent characters in this whole drat game (Winn will only be halfway-decent until he mans up). You shall be missed, overpowered geezer with silly attack names. 
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Nov 29, 2015 05:48
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Oh god, does that mean Barua was Ocelot this whole time?
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Nov 29, 2015 07:22
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That was certainly an end boss. The principal just wants to get rid of the girls, they're too good for their own good.
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One thing that I am fond of in this story is that they remember healing magic exists. It's always acknowledged with Lena either healing the person or being unable to. Can't count the # of RPGs that drive me nuts because of that gameplay/story divide where your amazing magic doesn't do anything in cutscenes.
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Oh, I thought the twist was gonna be that this moving island where people learn magic would take to the skies and become Vane eventually.
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TurnipFritter posted:Oh, I thought the twist was gonna be that this moving island where people learn magic would take to the skies and become Vane eventually. Nope, we're basically at the community college to Vane's four-year.
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