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Zane Bresloff should be in the Hall of Fame.
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Edge is the strongest US candidate and I don't think it's close at this point.
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Sep 14, 2015 03:26
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:With Batista as a solid- Better worker, while not the draw Batista was at his peak was a very consistent house show draw with some good PPVs thrown in. I am a huge Batista fan but his time as a big draw was short and while he's underrated in the ring he'd never ever get in as a worker.
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Sep 14, 2015 03:47
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Sure, but would Batista's drawing power + work + influence beyond wrestling help his case? Influence beyond wrestling isn't really a consideration. It might be for some people but Dave shoots it down when it comes up in the Big Daddy case. Batista's drawing power helps but his work doesn't really help his case. He's better than a Hogan or Konnan but he's below most guys in the Hall. Edge on the other hand is in the upper tier when it comes to match quality. I don't put a lot of stock in the number of four star matches a guy (this is frequently cited in Edge's case) but I think his body of work is really impressive.
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Sep 14, 2015 03:57
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oatgan posted:iirc it's wrestlers that overwhelmingly vote for edge But it is definitive proof what trash workers Volk Han and the Sharpes were.
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Sep 14, 2015 04:08
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Daniel Bryan posted:Which is one of the dumber things about this hall of fame really. Drawing is an aspect of candidacy, not the deciding factor but seems to be so heavily weighed in the eyes of voters. Probably because it can be objective. But the era we're in now, it's more subjective than ever as to what is the draw. Especially in WWE. For a bad worker to get in they have to be a historic level draw. There's probably as many workrate candidates in as drawing. Edge & Christian posted:I know it's not *just* supposed to be drawing power, but the idea that Edge is questionable as a draw next to other inductees (Angle, Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio, Jericho) seems weird to me. I know that all of those people worked outside of the WWE, and Angle was (briefly) a draw on top at TNA. I assume Mysterio is/was a draw in Mexico, but did any of the other three really work on top/in money drawing angles outside of WWE? I'd give the edge to all of them (except maybe Jericho) in terms of in-ring performance at their peaks, but Edge is still miles ahead of Sting or Warrior or whatever other borderline guy of years past. Rey Mysterio almost single handedly made WWE a dominant force in Mexico, and then when his career was derailed by injuries WWE's fortunes in Mexico were derailed. Benoit headlined one of the biggest WMs of all time (debatable who drew that number) but is pure workrate. Jericho is mostly workrate. Angle got in before he was ever in TNA and I doubt anyone would consider that. Angle has some decent drawing chops but his use as a comedy guy hurt that later on. Eddy was a pretty poor draw.
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Sep 14, 2015 04:19
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HulkaMatt posted:I'd say CIMA definitely deserves a better look than Nakamura. Nakamura wasn't the guy he is now for a long time. If AJ didn't get in for having a bunch of good matches in a promotion full of stables and weird matches why should CIMA?
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Sep 16, 2015 05:04
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KungFu Grip posted:He was the booker as well wasn't he? If we're getting into ego tripping on this ballot it is hard to knock CIMA when we have Daniel Bryan the guy who couldn't drop a belt clean if he had Spic and Span.
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Sep 16, 2015 05:08
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mariooncrack posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUXQ20UGqCs You meant to say (of all time.)
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Sep 17, 2015 04:26
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Hoping Col James McLaughlin made it in.
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Oct 15, 2015 23:54
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Spermgod posted:There's clearly many people voting in the Mexico category that have no business doing so. Both guys are failures as draws and Taue is looked upon as not being that good. NotQuiteQuentin posted:i can't get super angry but i'm surprised that american treasure karl stern didn't get william muldoon in as much as he was banding about it. He said he's not sending in his proposal until next year.
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Nov 5, 2015 03:44
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