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Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.


Montalvo posted:

I've asked on the PS4 thread too, but I'd love to hear some feedback from people who are playing this on console. It's a game I've always wanted to get into, particularly after how disappointing No Man's Sky was. Also, which version should I buy?

The versions available are:

Base game: $30. When PS store updates later, you'll be able to buy the Horizons season pass for an as yet unknown amount of dollars. Horizons is pretty much essential if you want to have the "full game" but they at least give you the option to buy in stages and see how it feels.

Commander edition: $60. This is the base game + Horizons + a pack of spaceship skins from the Frontier store. I went for this as I know I was already all-in on this game.

There's also a Legendary Edition on disc, if you're one of those people who still want physical copies of games. Same as the Commander edition, but instead of the skin pack you get 1000 Frontier Points to buy some pretty princess dress-up options from the Frontier store.

As for the game... well I was hugely disappointed with No Man's Sky, where by the third planet I was done. Meanwhile in the last 3 years waiting for Elite I've watched hundreds of hours of videos while pawing at the screen and whimpering. I've just spent the last 2 hours finding out that the flying is actually really difficult, getting my rear end handed to me by the Eagle in the training mission again and again... and I am *DELIGHTED* by this. It feels amazing to fly, the combat is really deep, and it's an actual skill that needs to be learned. A skill that right now I absolutely do not have.

Edit:

The default controls felt horrible to me on console, I spent rebinding everything (and you can rebind EVERYTHING), and it feels really great now. I think the controller is going to be just fine for this game, but considering how bad I am at flying, I'm going to hold off on my plans to learn flight assist off.

Also if you jump in, add PSN: parkingtigersx and illsense set us up a PS4 community called SpaaaaceGoooons so we can all wing up and piss about in spaceships together.

Parkingtigers fucked around with this message at Jun 27, 2017 around 09:00

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Krycek
Apr 25, 2014



Sugartime Jones

I think most people only use FA off selectively and micro manage toggling it on and off as needed. At least that's what I do. I can't imagine leaving it off all the time.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004



Looks like the "OMG CRAZY ALIEN BASE" is just another loving puzzle step in their never ending alien tease. Complete with a new cutscene to look at a spacemap. Get a clue, Frontier. We want gameplay not more 3D art masturbation.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

SLAY QUEEN!


Montalvo posted:

Pretty good, also I am a professional space nerd so that aspect of it is pretty attractive also. I mostly just want to chill out & explore cool space poo poo; also maybe shoot some lasers from time to time and then buy increasingly larger ships.

As others have said this game is probably up your alley. Just be aware that as you put time in it you'll realize alllllll the missed potential. I've thousands of hours in this game and freely admit that it is deeply flawed.

Fojar38
Sep 1, 2011

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Stupid shit here
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Nerds found a map



Also found a spectogram image from the signal you get from scanning the above device



Speculating that the system on the left is Merope and the system on the right is Sol

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine


Space Skeleton posted:

Looks like the "OMG CRAZY ALIEN BASE" is just another loving puzzle step in their never ending alien tease. Complete with a new cutscene to look at a spacemap. Get a clue, Frontier. We want gameplay not more 3D art masturbation.

Source your quotes.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004



Mike the TV posted:

Source your quotes.

It's so hard to stay positive and interested in the alien plot when we are two and a half years into it with a few hours of only partially interactive content to show for it.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine


Space Skeleton posted:

It's so hard to stay positive and interested in the alien plot when we are two and a half years into it with a few hours of only partially interactive content to show for it.



They are huge spooky terrain to explore. Frontier finally put something different and unique on planet surfaces, which is a great considering the season was about planetary surfaces to begin with.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

Did I predict the future?


Parkingtigers posted:

The versions available are:

Base game: $30. When PS store updates later, you'll be able to buy the Horizons season pass for an as yet unknown amount of dollars. Horizons is pretty much essential if you want to have the "full game" but they at least give you the option to buy in stages and see how it feels.

Commander edition: $60. This is the base game + Horizons + a pack of spaceship skins from the Frontier store. I went for this as I know I was already all-in on this game.

There's also a Legendary Edition on disc, if you're one of those people who still want physical copies of games. Same as the Commander edition, but instead of the skin pack you get 1000 Frontier Points to buy some pretty princess dress-up options from the Frontier store.


I was curious about the PS4 physical edition, so today at lunch I wandered into the electronic shop next door to see if they had it. Now I have what I swore I would never have: A second account.

Then I learned that I can only use Solo-mode on PS4, thanks to me not having a subscription. Welp, it's not like my deep space explorer main on PC ever sees other people, anway. At least with my PS4 account I can play around in the bubble and explore the other side of the galaxy.

TheKeeper
Jul 18, 2003

Quantum Shit

As someone who hasn't unlocked Palin yet and thus has no access to corrosive resistant cargo holds, how quickly do unknown artifacts damage one's ship? Is it something like once you have one you have roughly 30 minutes until your ship melts completely? Or do you have a few hours to check things out before you're too hosed up to do anything?

Aethernet
Jan 28, 2009

This is the Captain...

Our glorious political masters have, in their wisdom, decided to form an alliance with a rag-tag bunch of freedom fighters right when the Federation has us at a tactical disadvantage. Unsurprisingly, this has resulted in the Feds firing on our vessels...

Damn you Huxley!

TheKeeper posted:

As someone who hasn't unlocked Palin yet and thus has no access to corrosive resistant cargo holds, how quickly do unknown artifacts damage one's ship? Is it something like once you have one you have roughly 30 minutes until your ship melts completely? Or do you have a few hours to check things out before you're too hosed up to do anything?

Just carry a repair module and you should be fine. Two for safety.

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002


So getting an unknown artifact is going to a planet and picking one up? I think I was at a crash site but was destroying the artifacts to pick up the fragments. This would be fun to do if it wasn't such a pain.

Dishwasher
Dec 5, 2006

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Mike the TV posted:

They are huge spooky terrain to explore. Frontier finally put something different and unique on planet surfaces, which is a great considering the season was about planetary surfaces to begin with.

Agreed. At least this is vaguely gameplay. I'm excited to get the Unknown-materials to open these doors and poke around!

Libluini
May 18, 2012

Did I predict the future?


Wow, I didn't expect my adventure into Elite PS4 to go wrong that fast.

For some reason I was totally surprised to learn that you can't give your PS4-commander a custom name, like on PC. So I, stupid idiot, of course linked my Frontier-account to my old dumb PSN-account. Instead of the new one I made when No Man's Sky confronted me with the same problem. This means the 1000 Frontier-points that where part of my package are now deposited on an account with a name so dumb I would rather die than use it to play games where Sony forces me to use that name as an in-game name.

Essentially, to use those points to buy paint jobs and other crap, I now have to beg Frontier to somehow move them to my second PSN-account. (And no, you can't change the names of your PSN-accounts. Believe me, I've tried many times. If you want a new name, you have to make a new account.)

Welp, now laugh at my stupid rear end. I have to waste Frontier support's time just because I put in the wrong email address first.

Enos Cabell
Nov 3, 2004


You can't type all that and not share the super awful name.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine


Also Frontier is really good about helping out in situations like that. Like one of the best support teams in the industry.

UCS Hellmaker
Mar 29, 2008



Toilet Rascal

Lmao you've never been in the support forum for bug reports then.

Krycek
Apr 25, 2014



Sugartime Jones

Blind Rasputin posted:

So getting an unknown artifact is going to a planet and picking one up? I think I was at a crash site but was destroying the artifacts to pick up the fragments. This would be fun to do if it wasn't such a pain.

I think they're found inside special USS in specific systems

Shadow_333
May 2, 2016



UCS Hellmaker posted:

Lmao you've never been in the support forum for bug reports then.


"Working as intended" or, "let us know if it is still broken after the next patch".


Fantastic.

Arach
Oct 3, 2003

Dive! Dive! Di... are you diving yet?

Grimey Drawer

Libluini posted:

Wow, I didn't expect my adventure into Elite PS4 to go wrong that fast.

...

Welp, now laugh at my stupid rear end. I have to waste Frontier support's time just because I put in the wrong email address first.

They mentioned during the PS4 stream last week that your fdev account could link to two PSN accounts. You'll probably be able to link the account you want to use, clear save to reset name, and still have the space bucks. Or not

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

SLAY QUEEN!


I can't link my saves between PS4 and PC can I?

Angrymog
Jan 29, 2012

Really Madcats

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

I can't link my saves between PS4 and PC can I?

Sadlly not.

And re: support - the QA guys who answer the bug report forums are pretty dire. The people who answer the queries you put through the website tend to be really efficient and helpful when it comes to things like renaming things, returning stuff you lost because a bug blew you up and so on.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007
"If you put a hamburger in the toaster it'll say Happy Birthday."

So how bad are the controls? Are they unplayable?

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

SLAY QUEEN!


Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So how bad are the controls? Are they unplayable?

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So how bad are the controls? Are they unplayable?

The default controls aren't great but the input options are incredibly flexible and once you get things set up to your liking the game feels just wonderful. I haven't played a lot of space or flight sims but this sure does feel like the best flying a spaceship in my life.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

"TELL ME HOW TO GET PIG SEMEN OUT OF SUEDE" Club soda, fucktard.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

So how bad are the controls? Are they unplayable?

Literally answered on this page, but for

Parkingtigers posted:

Edit:

The default controls felt horrible to me on console, I spent rebinding everything (and you can rebind EVERYTHING), and it feels really great now. I think the controller is going to be just fine for this game, but considering how bad I am at flying, I'm going to hold off on my plans to learn flight assist off.

Also if you jump in, add PSN: parkingtigersx and illsense set us up a PS4 community called SpaaaaceGoooons so we can all wing up and piss about in spaceships together.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007


Bleak Gremlin

Apparently the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 (the blue one, not the red one) is confirmed to work with Elite on PS4. But only that one, nothing else.

If it's anything like the older T.Flight Hotas X it's a solid entry-level stick and throttle if you really wanna sperg out and fly your internet spaceships on a console. It's like 50 bucks or something.

Krycek
Apr 25, 2014



Sugartime Jones

Kurr de la Cruz posted:

Apparently the Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas 4 (the blue one, not the red one) is confirmed to work with Elite on PS4. But only that one, nothing else.

If it's anything like the older T.Flight Hotas X it's a solid entry-level stick and throttle if you really wanna sperg out and fly your internet spaceships on a console. It's like 50 bucks or something.

I actually have one of those, used exactly once and then was boxed back up and now collecting dust. I'd make an SAmart post if someone was interested in it.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.


To those of you who have played this (or played this on PS4)

This video, here:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...p-now:null:null

Makes the game look fairly exciting... and pretty.

Are these just extremely rare and otherwise contrived moments that will never happen? Are they cutscenes in a lot of cases? Or just CGI game trailer? Does it look that pretty on a PS4 Pro?

I'm hovering over the buy button.

Buccaneer
Jun 24, 2017


This game sucks poo poo lol

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

SLAY QUEEN!


Buccaneer posted:

This game sucks poo poo lol

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep


Feenix posted:

To those of you who have played this (or played this on PS4)

This video, here:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...p-now:null:null

I want to play that game it looks pretty sweet!

Overall the flying controls and feel of flying and the sounds and graphics are pretty fantastic but the underlying reasons in the game to actually go out and fly are pretty limited so its very much a make your own fun kind of game. There is a lot of repetitive gameplay. There is a goon group and being a part of a big player organization (there are zero community tools in game, no guilds, etc) can give you some direction if you're bored and provide resources in the form of help since a lot of poo poo is not well documented.

That said, console and pc players can't interact with each other cross-platform but all still affect the same "galaxy background simulation". The diamond frogs are mostly PC with a few xbox players and would be a good spot to organize some ps4 folks as well. even if we can't fly together, we have a loving amazing help channel and you can ask any of our new pilots how invaluable it is.

Stop by the PGS thread for the discord link and instructions if you do decide to hop in. Diamond Frogs are the chillest goon space guild. https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3773251

I think the base game at $30 is a bit on the high side for what you get since there is tons of content and ship customization unlocked by having the expansion, but $50 feels like a lot to ask someone to jump in on this somewhat shallow, very immersive game.

Kurr de la Cruz
May 21, 2007


Bleak Gremlin

Feenix posted:

To those of you who have played this (or played this on PS4)

This video, here:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...p-now:null:null

Makes the game look fairly exciting... and pretty.

Are these just extremely rare and otherwise contrived moments that will never happen? Are they cutscenes in a lot of cases? Or just CGI game trailer? Does it look that pretty on a PS4 Pro?

I'm hovering over the buy button.

There are no cutscenes in the game. There's also no story, no overarching plot. Most everything is procedurally generated, to a fairly acceptable level of reality. The gameplay is pretty basic at its core: fly to here or there, shoot/scan/scoop/haul/steal thing, bring back to starting point. With some permutations along that theme. Sometimes you do it in a space buggy. There's an over-arching story, but I don't really care for or pay attention to it, and it has literally no effect on you whatsoever. There's a lot of grinding and a lot of RNG at the top end of things, but you can ignore most of it if you want to.

The game is really quite beautiful. There's lots of cool stuff to look at and discover. But it *is* procedurally generated so it can get a bit samey after a while. The flight model for the game is excellent, with a lot of depth and nuance. Each ship has its own unique character and there's no objectively "best ship" in the game. They all excel at different things. A lot of players gravitate towards the biggest fattest most expensive ships but they're not my cup of tea. I like small, fast, and cheap. The sound design is also loving amazing in this game.

I suppose what it boils down to at its core is this: Do you enjoy flying spaceships? Does the idea of flying a spaceship around a lot appeal to you? Then you'll like this game. I like flying spaceships. That's why I play this game, the go here shoot this honk at that thing is just secondary to the core experience of flying a goddamned space ship in space.

Kurr de la Cruz fucked around with this message at Jun 28, 2017 around 04:14

Krycek
Apr 25, 2014



Sugartime Jones

Feenix posted:

To those of you who have played this (or played this on PS4)

This video, here:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en...p-now:null:null

Makes the game look fairly exciting... and pretty.

Are these just extremely rare and otherwise contrived moments that will never happen? Are they cutscenes in a lot of cases? Or just CGI game trailer? Does it look that pretty on a PS4 Pro?

I'm hovering over the buy button.

I'd say those are probably 50/50 gameplay that you'll actually see on a regular basis; and very creative use of the in-game camera controls that you would not normally see. But they're there if you want to put the effort into coordinating the perfect shot. Standard video game cut scenes are not part of Elite gameplay.

Buccaneer
Jun 24, 2017


This is the next best thing until they finally bring Euro Truck Simulator to the ps4.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

Don't get your pen, son, you won't be needing that. My order's simple, a shitload of dim sims. And I want a bucket of soya sauce.


Buccaneer posted:

This game sucks poo poo lol

Respectfully disagree.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.


poo poo I would be looking for in this game:

Immersion

deep controls but not hardcore flight sim " oh you forgot to say echo bravo at the end of your call to air traffic control and now you are loving grounded son!" minutiae.

Finding new cool poo poo to marvel at and such...

Occasionally shooting bounties and having that action be somewhat fun/not janky.


Parkingtigers
Feb 23, 2008
TARGET CONSUMER
LOVES EVERY FUCKING GAME EVER MADE. EVER.


Feenix posted:

poo poo I would be looking for in this game:

Immersion

deep controls but not hardcore flight sim " oh you forgot to say echo bravo at the end of your call to air traffic control and now you are loving grounded son!" minutiae.

Finding new cool poo poo to marvel at and such...

Occasionally shooting bounties and having that action be somewhat fun/not janky.




Chewie, we're home.

Fishreds99
Jul 8, 2009

Beep Boop


Feenix posted:

poo poo I would be looking for in this game:

Immersion



You'll get plenty of this as you sit in a station while watching Netflix, waiting for literal hours for your ship to transfer there from another station.

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Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.


Like, I don't mind actual downtime. Sort of like a really nice mobile idle game with better trappings.

If it's ALL downtime, that's a different story.

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