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To be fair to our esteemed ex-mod "I don't understand how-" is one of those meaningless cruft statements that people throw in a sentence which never needs to be there and basically is only ever used to sound passive-aggressive and condescending.
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*Posts wildly divisive opinion, unsolicited* *Gets flamed* *Gets extremely defensive* ooookay, hey man people in this thread fly off the handle about nanomachines and fetuses, I think you're gonna need to develop thicker skin. Especially with wild ideas like Marineford being bad floating around in your head. Also Kuja Island was like five chapters, that's like saying Long Ring Long was the worst arc because it lacked rich and developed characters and was only a lead-in to Davy Back Fight. Though we understand "worst arc" doesn't inherently mean "bad". The worst One Piece arc is still better than most entire series'.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:25
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Baal posted:Why is it so hard for you to just say "What do you dislike about it?" Why is it immediately "I don't know how?" Like your brain is actually completely unable to empathize with somebody who dislikes something that you like. your a spaz
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Sep 21, 2015 23:25
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i like one piece
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Sep 21, 2015 23:26
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The Bleach fight that is Tite Kubo practicing hand gestures is more interesting than post timeskip One Piece.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:27
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I didn't like Marineford because as a weekly read it was a few pages of Luffy running toward Ace with a grim expression on his face, a few pages of people who I didn't much care about facing off, and then a cliffhanger (DODON!!). It along with Fishman Island was one of the places in the series where I just dropped the series for a while and then came back to it again later, albeit for different reasons. Marineford felt like a constant high to me, and when every chapter is tension and high stakes it somehow simultaneously becomes boring in its monotony and also fatiguing in its intensity. Fishman Island was just blah. I hope this opinion is not objectively wrong according to the arbiters of the thread
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Sep 21, 2015 23:30
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You can dislike it definitely. For me, I thought that the two characters the arc revolved around, being whitebeard and luffy, were the most interesting in te story. Whitebeard at leat manages to be a sense character story, with cool Motivations and powers and it was also cool that he was like a legendary figure. So moment with otherwise tertiary chars like Squardo had a lot of impact, because we saw what made him a great man within like the first dozen chapters he was in, which is in contrast to other characters (say kyros or Rebecca) who receive more chapters and come out still feeling hollow. Additionally the entire mega arc was "luffys arc" and showed his motivations a lot more clearly than they had been shown before. Like I got that he liked his nakama", and stuff like drum island and arlong park definitely showed that, but he was always relatively easily winning at those stages. The whitebeard war mega arc has him lose three times over and makes luffy a lot more interesting than generic shonen "I like my friends" leads, and really showcases the relationships he has in a cool light from the crew, to allies like Bon clay, to ace. Finally I like that arc a lot because unlike in many others, the stakes felt really high throughout. In the water seven big arc the stakes were high internally, between crew members and I genuinely could believe that someone from the crew might/could leave. In whitebeard war they were high because I thought anyone could die, btwn sengoku, maybe garp, ace, whitebeard, jinbei, ivankov. That levity made week to week implicitly more interesting than dress rosa necessarily because you pretty much know everyone including law and Bellamy are gonna be ok.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:39
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I didn't like Marineford, as someone who thinks Ace is a really boring character and didn't really care about how it was built up. I really didn't care about any of the new characters so all the fights lacked impact for me, and I thought it was too long for what it was. Dressrosa did the same thing in a lot of ways but I honestly think it was way more compelling. Even weekly as opposed to all at once like I read Marineford I liked Dressrosa a lot more.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:41
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How has their been this much discussion about the Davey Back Fight without this panel being posted? The horrible scan quality/translations of the pre-Water 7 arcs (especially in the DBF) is what prevents me from doing a proper re-read of the series.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:41
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i dont like ace but i like luffy for liking ace, if that makes sense
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Sep 21, 2015 23:41
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anime was right posted:i dont like ace but i like luffy for liking ace, if that makes sense It does and it was tragic that his noble ambition was thwarted in such a manner, losing his brother for his own life to be saved
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Sep 21, 2015 23:44
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If you didn't like the part where Whitebeard, riddled with bullets and having only half a head, made sure to bellow out that One Piece does exist, I do think you're a madman. as well his epilogue owned
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Sep 21, 2015 23:45
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yeah the number of wounds part was like the baddassest baddass thing ever
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Sep 21, 2015 23:46
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Baal posted:Why is it so hard for you to just say "What do you dislike about it?" Why is it immediately "I don't know how?" Like your brain is actually completely unable to empathize with somebody who dislikes something that you like. I still can't believe they made you a mod.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:46
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DeadBonesBrook posted:How has their been this much discussion about the Davey Back Fight without this panel being posted? For what it's worth I read the Davy Back Fight in Japanese and the translation has nothing to do with the quality of that arc
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Sep 21, 2015 23:47
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better than zorak
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Sep 21, 2015 23:47
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Baal is my friend.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:52
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dare i say nakama
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Sep 21, 2015 23:52
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Stairmaster posted:dare i say nakama Bro*
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Sep 21, 2015 23:53
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TheKingofSprings posted:Just say what you dislike about it holy poo poo Lol, alright, I'm done being an rear end in a top hat. Kuja Island I have simple feelings about. It overstays its welcome or at least feels like, it parrots a lot of the same jokes and at the end of the day the new big character they introduce just ends up being kind of flat. Hancock had a really strong introduction and she was pretty cool for a while and then Luffy yells at her and she falls in love with him and that's pretty much her character for the rest of the series. Even at Marineford when she's worrying about Luffy constantly and her own status as a warlord feels like it's just there so they can get to Impel Down. She was a really funny character for a while and then I just stopped finding her funny because of her fixation with Luffy since she didn't really have much more to her than that afterwards. She doesn't need to be a deep character or anything, but I wanted her to have more than what is essentially a recurring gag. Impel Down I really liked and thought it was a lot of fun and introduced a lot of cool characters who had a lot of personality and it was nice to see a lot of the old villains again with the Crossdresser squad being a lot of fun and Mr. 2 having a really cool moment. I don't have much in the way of complaints for Impel Down I genuinely enjoyed it. Marineford I didn't really like because it really dragged on and just like a lot of the fights became massive clusterfucks and it just kept jumping from character to character making the entire mass of people insane and a really annoying series of fights to follow. It was like I was reading a big Naruto fight where it just devolves into a mess of poo poo, but the art was kind of better. Whitebeard and Ace I just flat out didn't care about. I used to like Ace a lot, but after Marineford he just felt like another One Piece character to me and not unique, the same sort of goes for Whitebeard, but in his previous appearances he doesn't even get much established for him beyond the fact he's loving huge and the strongest guy in the world. At no point did my opinion of that ever really change, like I just sort of felt the same way about him through the entire thing. I think it's mostly because I just never really felt connected to him and dropping all of this poo poo about him being a father to his men and Ace's sob story about being the Pirate King's kid just made me react with "Okay." It doesn't feel like it really earned any of it or like I'm learning about these characters just that their story keeps getting thrown at me. To top it off Blackbeard shows up at the end of it all to fart a new power out of his rear end like he masterminded most of this poo poo and Shanks shows up to stop it in a really sudden way. Fwiw, I did enjoy it when characters like sharp and Sengoku got shown off because they were always characters who I thought were interesting and wanted to see more of and I felt like Garp's turmoil over helping his grandsons and doing his duty was really cool. Sengoku resigning as lead guy afterwards was also a surprising way to end it. Sakazuki was also a really effective villain and even though I didn't care about Ace, I think Oda did a really stellar job of making him insanely hate able without making his shittiness feel like too much at points. There's things I liked about it, but overall I just didn't like Marineford. A big thing about why I enjoy One Piece is because Luffy is at his best when he is interacting with his crew or major villains because you really get to see the best parts of his character. So him not being with his crew was hurting it for me already and to top it off he never really played off anyone in Marineford either. The most he had was Sakazuki who was not having any of his poo poo. I don't feel like Marineford was objectively bad so much as I didn't enjoy it at all. Sorry about the run around guys, enjoy.
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Sep 21, 2015 23:59
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I Love Annie May posted:I still can't believe they made you a mod. Lol, I legit refused to moderate these threads because they were actively terrible and some of the worst on ADTRW. That's even including that one Looney Tunes porn thread Brawww made one time.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:01
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Stairmaster posted:Baal is my friend. Stairmaster posted:dare i say nakama 
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Sep 22, 2015 00:05
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AB, what'd you have for lunch today
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Sep 22, 2015 00:05
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Amorphous Blob posted:One Piece is a comic for children and I didn't like how Luffy was the only strawhat for like a hundred chapters and also I didn't care about Ace or the buttload of tertiary characters that were added.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:06
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Baal posted:AB, what'd you have for lunch today Beef broccoli and lomein straight from the bag and an Arizona tea. A paltry lunch.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:07
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The part I liked most about Marineford was that tiny little scene where Kizaru is about to own some fools and then suddenly there's Ben Beckman just sitting there with a gun of all things pointed at his head, and the man who can literally move at the speed of light and is completely immune to conventional weaponry besides raises his hands in defeat and backs down. I'm probably misremembering parts of that but I really liked it all the same.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:07
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i think marco is a cool character with a cool visual design with a cool power and it was fun when he did stuff
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Sep 22, 2015 00:10
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AnonSpore posted:The part I liked most about Marineford was that tiny little scene where Kizaru is about to own some fools and then suddenly there's Ben Beckman just sitting there with a gun of all things pointed at his head, and the man who can literally move at the speed of light and is completely immune to conventional weaponry besides raises his hands in defeat and backs down. I'm still waiting for Beckmann to do a thing. One day he will do something and I will be excited for it anime was right posted:i think marco is a cool character with a cool visual design with a cool power and it was fun when he did stuff I actually turned the corner on Marco in Pirate Warriors 2 when I got see his Phoenix stuff in motion and it actually was super cool
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Sep 22, 2015 00:11
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dream it! don't give it up baal!
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Sep 22, 2015 00:17
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Ummm...I hope the scans I'm reading for the Davey Back fight aren't totally legit cuz that's some racist rear end poo poo Oda puts in Usopp's mouth about why Luffy should choose the afro and kinda clouds the whole LOL AFRO LUFFY SO COOOOL. I know Japan/anime does this a lot, but still 
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Sep 22, 2015 00:18
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I think scans around the time of Davey Back Fight were more terrible than they are now? What exactly did Usopp say?
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Sep 22, 2015 00:20
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I forgot how badly Sanji gets messed up in his fight with Gin. I always liked the Baratie Arc my first time through but I'm liking it even more on a reread. It's pretty fun to see Oda establishing an obvious formula in the previous arcs only to totally go sideways here.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:21
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Baal posted:I think scans around the time of Davey Back Fight were more terrible than they are now? What exactly did Usopp say?  And yeah yeah I know Japan pulls this poo poo a lot and is more racially homogeneous and blahblah but I usually read intelligent seinen series that don't have that sorta poo poo.  I mean, Killer Bee is better than thisTurning into an...interesting reread...
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Sep 22, 2015 00:23
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Hmm, I'd need to look at the original scans and confirm, but that's uhhhh pretty unfortunate.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:25
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Baal posted:I think scans around the time of Davey Back Fight were more terrible than they are now? What exactly did Usopp say? Zorak would know cuz he had to repeat it about a million times. Bad Seafood posted:I forgot how badly Sanji gets messed up in his fight with Gin. I'm still holding out that Gin and Kuro will come back in a big way. I've got a real soft spot for early villains. Also did you know that One Piece has a lot of crap you can buy??? I collect POP figures.  Bobobo should be in OP.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:26
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I'm sorry I'm not Zorak, AB. I can't be who you want me to be.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:26
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Amorphous Blob posted:I'm still holding out that Gin and Kuro will come back in a big way. I've got a real soft spot for early villains.
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Sep 22, 2015 00:28
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in some regards i really wish stephen didnt translate the official releases because being able to refer to his translations was really handy and since they were in text format you could ctrl + f them and everything
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Sep 22, 2015 00:28
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Baal posted:I'm sorry I'm not Zorak, AB. I can't be who you want me to be. I'd rather you not be Zorak anyway. As far as 2008-2011 super stern mods went he wasn't bad yet i sure never exchanged any friendly jokes with the fella. TheFallenEvincar posted:These are clearly terrible scans, but if it's even close to the kernel of truth of the original then uhhhhhhhhh  Drawn by One Punch Man guy TheFallenEvincar posted:Yeah me too, I liked Kuro a lot, it's kind of surprising neither he nor Gin got cover story "what happened after" arcs, though I guess they were more minor and early on...and Gin probably died of toxic gas or something. Kuro would be really cool with mantra/haki
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Amorphous Blob posted:I'm still holding out that Gin and Kuro will come back in a big way. I've got a real soft spot for early villains. I liked Kuro's weapon. It was stupidly impractical in the best way possible. Like something a kid would come up with on the playground trying to out-imagine his friends' imaginary attacks.
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