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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?



Akito had good fights I dont remember anything else

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Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012



wielder posted:

Ironically...in another interview, the original Code Geass staff members said they're not too interested in the mystical worldbuilding, which is why they didn't refer to the Akito lore in the recent movie (but it seems they'll bring in some of those concepts for the upcoming mobile game though, whenever that's coming out).

Yeah you can really feel that, It's like they started out trying to balance it, realized the Politics and Drama was far more interesting and then had to wrap up all the World of C stuff in one episode.

I really think they shoudl've just gone with straight up AU's if they wanted to make CG sequels. The Series ended with such a bow that trying anything else would feel kind of weak.

Using Zero,Suzaku, and the C people as a type of template and creating a new world state around them to react to would've worked out better, and then they could get rid of flight units

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Gaius Marius posted:

Yeah you can really feel that, It's like they started out trying to balance it, realized the Politics and Drama was far more interesting and then had to wrap up all the World of C stuff in one episode.

I really think they shoudl've just gone with straight up AU's if they wanted to make CG sequels. The Series ended with such a bow that trying anything else would feel kind of weak.

Using Zero,Suzaku, and the C people as a type of template and creating a new world state around them to react to would've worked out better, and then they could get rid of flight units

An animated adaptation of Nightmare of Nunnaly would be fun

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

Sakurazuka posted:

Akito had good fights I dont remember anything else

To be fair, that is the best part of Akito so can't blame you at all. Spider-drones that can transform are cool.

Gaius Marius posted:

I really think they shoudl've just gone with straight up AU's if they wanted to make CG sequels. The Series ended with such a bow that trying anything else would feel kind of weak.

That could happen too. I think Sunrise is trying different options and will stick with whatever works, depending on the outcome of the next anime project and the mobile game (which seems likely to be the one place where they'll want to throw in existing spin-offs like the NoN manga, since they need characters for the gacha).

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Sakurazuka posted:

Akito had good fights I dont remember anything else

Congratulations, you remember the good parts of Akito.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

I always figured the end of Akito felt so random and disconeccted because the main series ate a rewrite part way through the second season and all the lore they were going build on didn't exist anymore. It's too bad that it'll probably never wind up in a SRW game: Alexanders vs Scopedogs would be an amaizing fight of tiny unhittable glass canons.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012



I'd love to see the guys in SRW, real cuties. I don't know if Akito can be blamed on S2 of Geass though, theres quite a few years between the two

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

Ardeem posted:

I always figured the end of Akito felt so random and disconeccted because the main series ate a rewrite part way through the second season and all the lore they were going build on didn't exist anymore. It's too bad that it'll probably never wind up in a SRW game: Alexanders vs Scopedogs would be an amaizing fight of tiny unhittable glass canons.

We haven't had a real mainline SRW game in a while, so I'm hoping we get some news on that front sooner rather than later.

The OVA's lore is all completely new created by Akane, and Sunrise more or less gave him a free hand so he wasn't limited by what the TV series had done.

To paraphrase him, the guy said something about wanting to add more "SF" DNA to Code Geass, but I believe he meant more in the speculative sci-fi sense (things like ESP, time/space manipulation, etc...similar to his Noein series) than in the more "hard" sci-fi manner. In a way, you could argue the weird stuff that happens at the end of Akito is closer to some of the crazier things Gundam has done with Newtypes (refer to the end of Unicorn for a not-so-old example). Problem is, Akito doesn't stop to explain most of it and so the viewer has to self-interpret some rather ambiguous scenes without a guide. This is also from memory, but Akane even pointed out afterwards that for him it's okay if people didn't understand everything.

At the same time, I'd say the mecha combat wasn't the only good part. For instance, both Leila and Akito had reasonable chemistry during their interactions.

wielder fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 11, 2021

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic






Afaik both Tekkaman Blade and Detonator Orgun were drawing from the same well (the original Tekkaman).

Also for Akito in SRW, I fully expect them to either nix the Kingsley plot or turn him into his own character.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Spin-offs not related to the canon of the OG show appear all the time, many times in conjunction with canon.

Guess what other bandai property shows up despite being big huge non-canon in Super Robot the past few games

(Hathaway's flash)

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic






Yeah but I'm speculating because SRW sometimes does fun stuff and Kingsley is just brainwashed Lelouch pre-R2

It's not like they frequently do no-plot inclusions. Just let me pretend they'll do something fun.

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012



I really don't think ya need to spoiler that

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012





So, as I near the end of the Patlabor OVAs, I watched WXIII, the third Patlabor movie. You know, rounding things out, even if it's considered a weaker entry. And watching the film... I don't get it.

I don't get why it was made, I mean.

It's not that it's a bad movie. It's not the most exciting, and the leads are flat, but it's good looking, the plot basically holds together (even if it's a little thin), and the action scenes are good. Fumihiko Takayama's a talented director, with War in the Pocket, Bubblegum Crisis, and Orguss 02 to his credit, and it shows. He might not quite match Oshii in his sweeping city shots, but he can at least come close without making you resent what you're not getting.

The problem is the leads. Patlabor has one of the best casts in mech anime, from Goto's core competence hidden under a layer of laziness to Izumi's gung-ho love for Alphonse. You get to know just about everyone, and you generally like them. Even minor characters like Takahiro Matsui and Tamiko Shinshi and villains like Richard Wong are fun to have around.

The movie, meanwhile, just has... two random detectives. Now, new leads aren't the worst idea. It's a little odd when we already have Takahiro to play investigator, but it can work. You can have an outside prospective on the usual leads, and provide a different kind of story. (Discworld has some excellent examples with Vimes. When he's the viewpoint character, he's the only sane man in the city. When he's not, he's the most suspicious obstructionist bastard ever to draw breath. And both fit.) The thing is, we hardly get any interaction with the main crew, and what we do get doesn't show them in a different light. Goto is still Goto, same as always. And what's worse?

The new guys are boring! In a series known for larger-than-life characters, we get two thinly sketched and mundane figures instead, with no moments to really tell us why these people are interesting and worth focusing on.

(Maybe that's for the best in some ways. SV2 saves the day in the end, and if the protagonists were more interesting, it'd feel bad to have their win snatched away by people with minor cameo roles.)

It's really odd, basically. Not terrible, but odd. Especially as the last Patlabor thing until Next Generation and Reboot back in the mid 2010s.

(For terrible, there's still Back Arrow. I really have no idea what that show wants to do, but it's failing at it.)

Arcsquad12
Mar 4, 2013

I Love Satan


So is Bandai's new mecha franchise supposed to be based on the 30MM Gunpla or is it an entirely new mecha series to then create a line of Gunpla for?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007





Arcsquad12 posted:

So is Bandai's new mecha franchise supposed to be based on the 30MM Gunpla or is it an entirely new mecha series to then create a line of Gunpla for?

That second one.

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

chiasaur11 posted:

(For terrible, there's still Back Arrow. I really have no idea what that show wants to do, but it's failing at it.)

I'd still much rather watch it than that Patlabor movie you discussed, but then again you're going for a "Carthago delenda est" thing and I can almost appreciate that.

But enough talking in circles. How do y'all feel about this?

quote:

Anime production company AIC announced on Friday that it has concluded an agreement to transfer partial ownership of some of its existing copyrights to Toei Agency, with the two companies now sharing joint ownership. The intellectual properties that the two companies now share include the Megazone 23 franchise, Hades Project Zeorymer, Dangaioh, the Bubblegum Crisis franchise, the Gall Force franchise, and the Tenchi Muyo! franchise.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-04-16/aic-toei-agency-sign-deal-to-co-own-megazone-23-tenchi-muyo-other-classic-anime/.171765

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012



Back Arrow was going for this week

i do think the stuff with Dr. Sola suddenly dying dramatically??? lol was pretty bad though. feels like a very rushed development compared to everything else this ep having had several episodes to be set up.

wielder
Feb 16, 2008

"You had best not do that, Avatar!"

dogsicle posted:

Back Arrow was going for this week

i do think the stuff with Dr. Sola suddenly dying dramatically??? lol was pretty bad though. feels like a very rushed development compared to everything else this ep having had several episodes to be set up.

Sure, that part with him did feel like the sort of thing they really needed more time or better animation to sell me on. I did smirk at my being proven right about what was going on with the whole bird thing though, plus I also like seeing anime characters creating their own country/faction as a show of independence from existing powers.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN






Lipstick Apathy

wielder posted:

I'd still much rather watch it than that Patlabor movie you discussed, but then again you're going for a "Carthago delenda est" thing and I can almost appreciate that.

But enough talking in circles. How do y'all feel about this?


https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-04-16/aic-toei-agency-sign-deal-to-co-own-megazone-23-tenchi-muyo-other-classic-anime/.171765

could be cool, could be bad?

gimme gall force blurays thanks

Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011



Wild that they would want to make more Zeorymer. Also I hope the new Megazone sequel continues the story of part 3 and is all about Hard On, because it makes me giggle.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.




The Zeorymer OVA is so much better than the manga it's hilarious.

Shaezerus
Mar 24, 2008

God? Or perhaps a devil?
Show me which you'll choose!


Zeorymer OVA is incredibly bad but it's also the incredibly fun kind of bad. Being about two hours long is a significant plus, it's basically just a weird B movie and I'd watch it several times over with different friend groups just to make fun of it.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Shaezerus posted:

Zeorymer OVA is incredibly bad but it's also the incredibly fun kind of bad. Being about two hours long is a significant plus, it's basically just a weird B movie and I'd watch it several times over with different friend groups just to make fun of it.

Yeah I never really got the hate for it. It's nice to look at, has good music, doesn't overstay its welcome, and is hilariously goofy. If it were a full length series it would be awful, but it's not.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine


Plus it has another good thing going for it, it makes great SRW fodder

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Ethiser
Dec 31, 2011



drrockso20 posted:

Plus it has another good thing going for it, it makes great SRW fodder

I'm not sure you can say that about something that only showed up outside of the mobile game twice and both of those were over 15 years ago.

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