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Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

ahh..what!? what?!
huh?!


He's right tho

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Dibujante
Jul 27, 2004


Fintilgin posted:

It does seem weird and gamey that you can convert your own state culture to another one. I'm assuming it works with a very large dose of hand-waving abstraction, and shouldn't be interpreted as a state action. Some sort of natural migration/demographic change which you pay for with monarch points as the 4th wall breaking player instead of the nation.


EDIT: My immersion.

Clearly, immersion demands that this only apply to Jews.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.


I really hope Jewish is one of the cultures you can convert a province to. I want to create a Jewish German Empire.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012

The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new DLC tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

Answering some stuff:
Demos not being able to DoW Demos is a moddable rule.
Nations can only be in one faction.
Groogy is a saint, gently caress you guys.

Pylons
Mar 16, 2009


The Sharmat posted:

Does anyone ever actually play as the US in Vicky 2?
I like the US because of the insane assimilation and immigrant attraction bonus they get, so I play them every so often.. and then the absolutely ridiculous amount of pop-up spam happens and I get frustrated.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

Darkrenown posted:

Groogy is a saint, gently caress you guys.

<3

Hitlers Gay Secret
Mar 7, 2010

The Third Reich's under new -- and better -- management.

Hasn't word reached Camp Pendleton yet?


College Slice

Darkrenown posted:

Nations can only be in one faction.

So I take it that's just like in HoI 3 where you can only be in one faction (Commy, Demo, Nazi) but can have alliances with members of other factions, ie, Germany and Russia's Non-Aggression Pact.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012

The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new DLC tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

You can have relations, like NAPs, with non-faction nations yes. But for the purposes of HoI4 alliance = faction. You Are not limited to the starting 3 factions either, if you want to make an Italian-Polish faction to fight Germany or something, you can do that (or at least try, the other nation might say no).

LaSalsaVerde
Mar 3, 2013



RestRoomLiterature- posted:

When I play as Germany in HOI I just disband every military division and allow glorious communism to be brought to Berlin. My conscience and education will only allow me to play video games through the lens of the proletariat.

that commy Germany mod for Darkest Hour was the best. Especially since you could go Radical Socialist instead of Stalinist/Leninist, but don't tell the tankies that, they'll kick me out of the internationale

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.



LaSalsaVerde posted:

that commy Germany mod for Darkest Hour was the best. Especially since you could go Radical Socialist instead of Stalinist/Leninist, but don't tell the tankies that, they'll kick me out of the internationale

Which reminds me-- how would HoI IV represent things like that or Kaiserreich syndicalists or whatever? Can communist countries be set to still have elections? Could a democracy have a communist party in power without immediately collapsing? I mean I'm sure all of that's

I've also wondered how non-fascist dictatorships are handled since so far we've only heard about democracies, communists, and fascists in the dev diaries.

Hitlers Gay Secret
Mar 7, 2010

The Third Reich's under new -- and better -- management.

Hasn't word reached Camp Pendleton yet?


College Slice

Darkrenown posted:

You can have relations, like NAPs, with non-faction nations yes. But for the purposes of HoI4 alliance = faction. You Are not limited to the starting 3 factions either, if you want to make an Italian-Polish faction to fight Germany or something, you can do that (or at least try, the other nation might say no).

Now that's interesting. So if history went off the rails I could have like a US-Mexico faction to fight against Japan or stuff like that? Man, I might have to actually buy this when it comes out.

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012

The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new DLC tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

The election system is pretty modable too, you can add new ideologies etc. A democracy which votes in a communist party ricks getting overthrown in the base game, but a mod could remove that or make it more likely as they want. I'm not sure if communist regimes can have elections, in theory I think so, but I have not tried it myself.

Non-fascist dictatorships aren't anything special, I'm afraid they are basically what the neutral ideology is for. They can declare war and do things a lot earlier than democracies, but not as soon as the actual fascists.

And sure, have a USA-MEX faction and fight Japan using only pure American-bred freedom if you like.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.



Darkrenown posted:

The election system is pretty modable too, you can add new ideologies etc.

Music to my ears.

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Jozy loves scoring like a fat kid loves eating cake.


College Slice

Can you merge factions? For example if Japan forms its own Pacific faction but later on wants to join the Axis, can its faction and Germany's faction combine somehow?

Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012

The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox announced their new DLC tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.

Not sure, was still a bit undecided when I moved. You can disband factions though, so worst case JAP ends their Co-prosperity sphere and joins Axis.

Fidel Cuckstro
Jul 2, 2007



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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Empress Theonora posted:

Music to my ears.

My prayers have been answered! Thank you Paradox!

Gort
Aug 18, 2003


Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

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It's for the best

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

The very sight of him was enough to make Bush, who had already had one drink from the well, feel consumed with thirst all over again.


Haha, the "democratic" peace theory. More like the Rothschild central banker peace theory.

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Enjoy posted:

Haha, the "democratic" peace theory. More like the Rothschild central banker peace theory.

Are you arguing that common economic ties help to prevent violent conflict or...?

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011



Speaking of doing terrible things I need to do a Canada->UK Kaiserreich game again, because opportunistically taking advantage of a new world war and ending a popular revolution to replace it with a reactionary government of exiles is about the most fun I had in DH.

Never finished the game I had going. I got worn down by neverending bloodbaths (mostly the blood of a number of puppet states I created in the former United States) in France and when writing up a peace conference event chain I got sidetracked by exams and ended up just kind of forgetting to finish it.

edit: Also, I'd just like to say Goddamnit. Reading about this patch/expansion has got me really excited to start an eu4 game again, but for some reason I find myself to be unable to do it due to it not having the new features yet.

Randarkman fucked around with this message at Oct 18, 2015 around 09:22

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

The very sight of him was enough to make Bush, who had already had one drink from the well, feel consumed with thirst all over again.


Kavak posted:

Are you arguing that common economic ties help to prevent violent conflict or...?

I personally prefer to combine ellipses with question marks by removing the last full stop from the ellipsis.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009



RestRoomLiterature- posted:

When I play as Germany in HOI I just disband every military division and allow glorious communism to be brought to Berlin. My conscience and education will only allow me to play video games through the lens of the proletariat.

this but uniornically

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Kavak posted:

Are you arguing that common economic ties help to prevent violent conflict or...?

its a jewish conspiracy joke

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

I GOT AN ERECTION FANTASIZING ABOUT TAKING AN X-RAY OF MY COCK IN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ'S MOUTH WHILE SHE RUBBED HER FEET ALL OVER MY FUCKING FACE

Is there any way to restore a proper polish haplogroup to the throne so I don't have to suffer this stupid dynasty of generic woodelf germans?

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

We have the dimension of an empire.


can i play as Emperor MacArthur of the Japanese Empire?

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.



New Stellaris dev diary on species and empires.

Monarchs, heirs, factions, ideology sliders, and POPs! I think Stellaris might be................ the perfect game.....................................

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Well, now that's seriously cool.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

We have the dimension of an empire.


between this and total warhams i'm really excited to be disappointed in 2016!

Tomn
Aug 23, 2007

And the angel said unto him
"Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself."
But lo he could not. For the angel was hitting him with his own hands


Empress Theonora posted:

New Stellaris dev diary on species and empires.

Monarchs, heirs, factions, ideology sliders, and POPs! I think Stellaris might be................ the perfect game.....................................

I can die happy knowing that ethics sliders are a thing.

GSD
May 10, 2014



The government forms

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an


Stellaris: I Cannot Wait to Be Syndicalist Yog-Sothoth

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007


Stellaris is Vicky 3. So more like Stellaris: Marx is a Fungi

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an


"GUYS, I DID IT! I finally thought up a good proposal for Victoria 3!"

"Really? What sparked it?"

*smiles triumphantly* "Star Trek."

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!


Yessss I am going to be so many Marxist-Anarchist Lizardpeople

E:

No really this is the most excited I've been about a new game release in ages, don't gently caress this up PI!

RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at Oct 19, 2015 around 16:20

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

Mans posted:

between this and total warhams i'm really excited to be disappointed in 2016!

I have never been looking so much forward to cancelling my pre-orders

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort



Empress Theonora posted:

New Stellaris dev diary on species and empires.

Monarchs, heirs, factions, ideology sliders, and POPs! I think Stellaris might be................ the perfect game.....................................
I am still really scared about planet tiles.

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002



Bort Bortles posted:

I am still really scared about planet tiles.

Same but also ship design.

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.



q. what kind of support will stellaris provide for F U L L C O M M U N I S M

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Cantorsdust
Aug 9, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Top Cop

RabidWeasel posted:

No really this is the most excited I've been about a new game release in ages, don't gently caress this up PI!

This. Also waiting for the Stellaris -> Victoria 3 total conversion mod along with EU4 converter.

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