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Fellblade
Apr 28, 2009


Soup du Journey posted:

i dunno if i'd call it virtuous to change your mind about a price gouge. p sure they're just rolling back because their messaging was off-point

It's hardly a price gouge to make those with lower value currency pay the equivalent price to others.

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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011


Winner of the "Poor Games Poster" avatar.


Well I mean he is right in the sense that it isn't virtuous to undo something that isn't wrong.

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2020
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Despair. Malice.
Values America can believe in.


Crazy Joe Wilson posted:

So Steam had Darkest Hour for 2.49 today on sale. Real excited to try it out since I heard good things about it. But turns out it doesn't work on Windows 10. The subforums on Paradox have about 10 different "fixes" to get around it, but none of them work, and the only one I haven't tried is to take my video card back a couple years in drivers, which seems really unnecessary just to play this game.

Wish the mod devs could be bothered to make an official patch.

For what it's worth, I'm also playing Darkest Hour on Win10 without issue. What do you mean when you say "doesn't work"? Straight up doesn't start? Throws an error message?

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 18 hours!


CharlestheHammer posted:

Well I mean he is right in the sense that it isn't virtuous to undo something that isn't wrong.
haha yayyy i'm right!

seriously though, is this a thing that's known to happen in the industry? i'm not very familiar at all with what goes on re: digital game sales in, say, indonesia

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!

Vivian Darkbloom posted:

I've come to feel the Sabaton soundtrack is the really vital DLC for EU4.

It truly is. It's also shocking they haven't released a new one with songs like Last Stand and Winged Hussars.

Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

BAD POSTER ALERT!

I like to make up facts to back my beliefs, even when called out on my ignorance!

please pump more cum into my aching asshole, it keeps my shitpost engine running smoothly


Sabaton are garbage, Kamelot is superior

Sunning
Sep 14, 2011
Nintendo Guru

Soup du Journey posted:

haha yayyy i'm right!

seriously though, is this a thing that's known to happen in the industry? i'm not very familiar at all with what goes on re: digital game sales in, say, indonesia

Typically, prices aren't changed retroactively. Prices of old games are grandfathered while new releases are released at higher prices. Attempts to raise prices after establishing a base price for the region (Bandai-Namco with Dark Souls 3 in Brazil, Square-Enix with Nier Automata in Asia/SEA, etc.) have always ended in a backlash.

Why did Paradox raise prices in several regions for their old games after so many publishers attempting the game faced criticism and readjusted prices? Much of their revenue comes from longtail sales of their catalog+DLC so they might have been more vulnerable to currency fluctuations.

Beamed
Nov 26, 2010


Enjoy posted:

Sabaton are garbage, Kamelot is superior

Kamelot's Epica/March of Mephisto albums are their only two good ones.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011




What's the event path for Syndicalist Danubian Federation in DHKR?

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2020
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Despair. Malice.
Values America can believe in.


Plutonis posted:

What's the event path for Syndicalist Danubian Federation in DHKR?

Uh, let's see what I remember... I think you have to do the full centralization first (i.E. annex all your puppets at game start through whatever means necessary). Then you'll get a decision asking what you want to do (Austria, Austria-Hungary or Danubian Federation), and of course you have to do Danubian Federation.

I think at that point it's just a matter of picking "left" options. So in the election, pick the leftmost option, then I think you get a question about inviting more left guys into government, which you have to do, and then at one point you'll get asked if you want to organize the Federation along Syndicalist lines. So I think it's pretty straightforward. I don't entirely remember, though.

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015


So I'm looking to get a Paradox game and I'm waffling between HOI4 and EU4 + a DLC (about $20 on Steam). In general, I like WW2 as a theme better but I've heard from some that EU4 is a better game.

Also, a thing that really appeals to me is playing a smaller power (like Canada or Australia in WW2) so it would be nice if the game was fun to play that way.

The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won


drat Dirty Ape posted:

So I'm looking to get a Paradox game and I'm waffling between HOI4 and EU4 + a DLC (about $20 on Steam). In general, I like WW2 as a theme better but I've heard from some that EU4 is a better game.

Also, a thing that really appeals to me is playing a smaller power (like Canada or Australia in WW2) so it would be nice if the game was fun to play that way.

EU4 is going to be more complete, and has the advantage of many years' work put into it, BUT it really only reaches its potential with a few baseline DLC (the ones mentioned on a previous page - Common Sense, Art of War and Rights of Man are near essentials).

I personally really like HoI4 despite not having enjoyed the previous games in that series. HoI4 is "playable" as a smaller power once you get the hang of how to fool the AI. You might suffer from those minors not having national focuses or much explicit direction if you do anything other than historical play. This can be addressed with some mods, but you might also want to pick up Together for Victory, which focuses explicitly on the Commonwealth countries, including Canada and Australia as you mentioned. Though TBH if you've not gotten into a Paradox game before, vanilla HoI4 will give you quite a few hours as you get to grips with the mechanics and play some games as Germany, Italy, the USSR etc.

EU4 has a long enough time span that anything is possible with a tiny nation if you're willing to stick it out and bide your time. By necessity, HoI4 is a game about World War 2-era conflicts, and much of the game's attention is given to the major powers - the DLCs are helping bridge that by giving the smaller countries stuff to do/special mechanics.

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Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015


Hmm, getting all that DLC would be a bit above my price point. I just recalled that I also own Stellaris (from a humble monthly), so maybe I should consider the DLC for that instead? Seeing the amount of DLC and no 'gold' edition for EU4 is a little disheartening.

Also, there is a part of me that would always think I'm missing something without having the DLC, so maybe that's reason enough to leave EU4 alone.

How fun is HOI4 and dealing with Navy fighting (subs, carriers, cargo shipments, etc)? I've been into the Pacific theater lately after reading a book about Pearl Harbor.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006

History has shown us that the love of power will always exceed the power of love. Plan accordingly.


drat Dirty Ape posted:

Hmm, getting all that DLC would be a bit above my price point. I just recalled that I also own Stellaris (from a humble monthly), so maybe I should consider the DLC for that instead? Seeing the amount of DLC and no 'gold' edition for EU4 is a little disheartening.

Also, there is a part of me that would always think I'm missing something without having the DLC, so maybe that's reason enough to leave EU4 alone.

How fun is HOI4 and dealing with Navy fighting (subs, carriers, cargo shipments, etc)? I've been into the Pacific theater lately after reading a book about Pearl Harbor.

The Pacific theatre is probably the weakest part of HOI4 right now. Basically it just doesn't happen.

The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won


The naval game in HoI4 may as well not exist aside from facilitating naval landings and frustrating another nation by destroying some convoys. It's a system detached from just about everything else in the game and is one of the biggest weak points of its design at the moment.

Damn Dirty Ape
Jan 23, 2015




Well gently caress, I'm glad I asked then since that would have been a huge disappointment. Sounds like expansion fodder. Maybe I'll just play baseline Stellaris for now and hold off on HOI4 to get it's act together as far as the Pacific is concerned.

Thanks for the help.

Psychotic Weasel
Jun 24, 2004
I'm a 19 year old who hangs out with 14 year olds on occasion!

The AI is better at the Pacific Theatre than it was at launch, since it will actually try and invade islands now. But there isn't too much strategy when it comes to naval engagements apart from making sure your ships and planes outnumber theirs. Moving ships and people around the Pacific is very micro heavy though.

Current community consensus is that the next expansion will be dealing with Asia and the pacific though the details haven't been confirmed by the devs. We're coming up on vacation season so I don't know if anything is going to be revealed or if we'll just get hints. I certainly don't expect anything new until the late fall at the earliest since little seems to get done in July and August.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

one cat, one vote, one beer


JUST BUY DARKEST HOUR

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012



darkest hour isn't that good either

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

We will no longer surrender this country or its people to the false song of globalism.

Diversity
is Disunity
is Weakness.


I got this avatar for being a giant shithead on ANZAC day.

Kaiserreich Darkest Hour is probably the most fun I've had with all Paradox games though.

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I just pretend to be nice.


Lipstick Apathy

drat Dirty Ape posted:

Hmm, getting all that DLC would be a bit above my price point.

Vanilla EU4 is still a very good game without any DLC at all-- if you stick to playing in Europe. There's a feature in the expansion Common Sense that's borderline necessary for everywhere else in the world.

But for your first games you should really play one of the European nations anyway to get the hang of things, and that's easily tens to a couple of hundred hours or more of gameplay. The expansions add a ton but if you've never played the game before then none of it is stuff you're gonna miss.

That said, Art of War is probably worth picking up if you feel like it, it's basically an expansion of quality of life improvements so it's very nice to have.

e: honestly it's still mostly fine to play outside of Europe without Common Sense too. there was a feature added a few patches back means you can stay up on technology out there really easily if you have Common Sense, but playing without that feature doesn't gimp you much more than how gimped you used to be for like 3 years of EU4's life span. You're definitely at a disadvantage but then it's a singleplayer game so all your opponents will have that disadvantage too.

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idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016


I can't recall if people over here like to be updated on this or not, but the Vic2 to HoI4 converter has been updated, this time with a Linux version. You can get it on the forum release thread or on Steam workshop.

Groogy
Jun 12, 2014

Tanks are kinda wasted on invading the USSR

drat Dirty Ape posted:



Well gently caress, I'm glad I asked then since that would have been a huge disappointment. Sounds like expansion fodder. Maybe I'll just play baseline Stellaris for now and hold off on HOI4 to get it's act together as far as the Pacific is concerned.

Thanks for the help.

I do recommend though EU4 as well, sure there's some Expansions I couldn't play without but I think if you get the base game, that should give you a good sense of "Is this a game for me?" before you buy any of the Expansions. Even if you get only the base game you get patches for 4 years. There is also a demo but I think that one is way too old right?

e: Also just saying I am biased in recommending EU4 since I work on it. In case that matters or something.
e2: Also when people say "This is a must have", is because once you've played with, or know of the added features in it you can't really imagine not playing with it. I am pretty sure the vanilla game is still good at it's core... so if you play multiplayer with someone who has one of those, you're boned.

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Mister Adequate
Oct 29, 2011

that's real fuckin' spooky


Stairmaster posted:

darkest hour isn't that good either

This is the worst opinion I've ever read.

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