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unwantedplatypus posted:I can’t wait for some crazy bastard to try and start a mega-campaign from Imperator: Rome
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Question about the original Rome, how civilized were the Gauls relative to Rome? I don't recall exactly how much worse off than the Romans they were, but I remember my Averni game was a slow, painful slog of waiting to become civilized enough to reform into a civilized state, all while the Romans were getting bigger and scarier. I don't remember the exact details of how it worked, but in EU: Rome "civilization" was a provincial value that sloooowly rose from things like trade with and proximity to more civilized neighbors.
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May 21, 2018 00:35
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the only thing that would be better than a mega-campaign would be a succession mega-campaign.
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May 21, 2018 02:21
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Glad to see Pontus will be playable from the get-go. Always enjoyed playing as the Poison King.
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May 21, 2018 03:25
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long haired gauls and blue faced celts, in the phalanx? yea, massalia
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May 21, 2018 04:17
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Ofaloaf posted:heh. Imperator>Attila>CK2: Winter King>CK2>EU5>Vicky 3>DH
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May 21, 2018 04:28
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unwantedplatypus posted:I can’t wait for some crazy bastard to try and start a mega-campaign from Imperator: Rome it's time for a mega-MP-campaign
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May 21, 2018 05:34
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I'm really excited at the political and trade emphasis that seems to be in I:R. I'm hoping these are really flushed out and I can plot backstabbing of my would-be emperors who really should just get out of my way for the better of the Republic. Ninja edit: Also overhaul mods that could utilize this system. No mesopotamia-based standalone game? I:R might make a good base for one. Or a post-apoc North America map. Or, or, or... Ofaloaf posted:Also, Johan said "Imperator" in a way that didn't sound the same as other times I've heard it said in a Latin sense, and that makes me angry. Now I'm really worried I have no idea how to pronounce Imperator. I've never taken any Latin studies or listened to any lectures on the topic. How is it usually pronounced? Ofaloaf posted:After the End won an award at pdxcon. As others have said, amazing work. You deserve that.
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May 21, 2018 06:02
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whats the timespan on imperator again
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May 21, 2018 06:07
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StashAugustine posted:whats the timespan on imperator again 303 BC - 27 BC if we take their "to the end of the republic" comment literally. If they want to give the player some wiggle room they could give them a round 300 years. Or maybe take it to 14AD and the death of Augustus.
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May 21, 2018 06:12
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They also mention there's only gonna be one start date, which makes sense I suppose given how many times they've mentioned that like 99.9% of all games are only ever from the earliest one. I hope we'll see some DLC extending it though like there is in CK2.ExtraNoise posted:Now I'm really worried I have no idea how to pronounce Imperator. I've never taken any Latin studies or listened to any lectures on the topic. How is it usually pronounced? didn't you ever play Rome: Total War?
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May 21, 2018 06:14
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Koramei posted:It starts right around 300 BCE and goes for 270 or so years apparently Total war pronounces it wrong. It has a long A, not a long E. ImpeRAtor, not ImPERator
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May 21, 2018 06:15
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Nah it's too entrenched in my mind at this point.
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May 21, 2018 06:17
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Koramei posted:They also mention there's only gonna be one start date, which makes sense I suppose given how many times they've mentioned that like 99.9% of all games are only ever from the earliest one. I hope we'll see some DLC extending it though like there is in CK2. Plus they said it increases the amount of QA work massively for so little pay off. It’s listed as one of the biggest regrets of eu4 from their 2017 pdxcon presentation.
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May 21, 2018 06:26
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Randarkman posted:That's nothing I ever heard and not really something you can read from the the actual sources, so whoever is saying that is making a whole lot of assumptions based on very little evidence (they are also assuming that you could speak of any coherent Roman foreign policy in that era, other than a general agreement to further the glory of Rome, and hence establish and maintain hegemony over the Mediterranean world). There was no such thing as a united Gaul. Rome was allied to a number of Gaulish tribes/cities, and Caesar's conquests were not official Roman policy, and widely condemned by the Roman political elite (for instance because he had attacked many people who were Roman allies).
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May 21, 2018 06:38
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I might have laid it on a little too thick, meant it more in a civilizational sense than Gaul being a united empire. Obviously you're right that there wasn't like a unified Roman policy, but they must still have had stories about the world they live in - stories that would then influence how they behaved toward outsiders, even if they did some heavy propagandizing after the fact. The fact that Gaul was rich and somewhat civilized was probably enough for Caesar, if you're gonna make a great big conquest to fuel your political ambitions the developed Gaul is probably a better idea than the deep forests of Germany. "Gaul is rich and somewhat civilized" honestly sounds less like "We must cut down a potential rival!" and more like "Think of the LOOT! And they're savages, so it'll be easy!"
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May 21, 2018 06:48
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The only thing I know about Gaul is it's divided into three parts.
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May 21, 2018 06:51
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Charlz Guybon posted:ImpeRAtor, not ImPERator This is correct in both Swedish and English but like a lot of shared Latin and Greek loan words they're still pronounced with different phonemes in the two languages. I've got a fairly mild accent overall but I still pronounce "imperator" with a Swedish ɑː and not an English ä for the third syllable when speaking English. After living in the US for a couple of years I've learnt to not say things like "centaur" and "cephalopod" with hard k-sounds because that particular tic confuses the hell out of people, but it's still been strangely difficult to rewire myself to Greek-as-English rather than Greek-as-Swedish.
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May 21, 2018 07:17
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Just the thought of Imperator proncounced with a Swedish accent gives me chills. I can picture it perfectly.
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May 21, 2018 07:23
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You're right. Game better start with everything written in the Old Latin alphabet, then have new letters introduced if Rome conquers Greece. HOI4 dumping the faux Cyrillic from HOI3 was a real shame.
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May 21, 2018 07:28
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gradenko_2000 posted:HOI4 dumping the faux Cyrillic from HOI3 was a real shame. You're in luck!  https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=730496493&searchtext=map+font
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May 21, 2018 07:36
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gradenko_2000 posted:HOI4 dumping the faux Cyrillic from HOI3 was a real shame. Actually being able to read Cyrillic, I hated it.
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May 21, 2018 07:37
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SOWJET UИIOИ
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May 21, 2018 07:38
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CHIИД = SNEEEED Please use Cyrillic responsibly.
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May 21, 2018 07:52
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unwantedplatypus posted:I can’t wait for some crazy bastard to try and start a mega-campaign from Imperator: Rome From Ptolemy to the Stars
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May 21, 2018 07:54
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Fister Roboto posted:CHIИД = SNEEEED Mao’s feed and succeed Formerly Chiang’s
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May 21, 2018 08:40
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Koramei posted:They also mention there's only gonna be one start date, which makes sense I suppose given how many times they've mentioned that like 99.9% of all games are only ever from the earliest one. I hope we'll see some DLC extending it though like there is in CK2. Also, I suppose this means that Parthia won’t be playable? Cool.
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May 21, 2018 09:27
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Potzblitz! posted:drat. That’s one of the best features of EU4, especially because the earliest start date sucks soo much. Why not? They are on the map. The Parthians were a thing long before they conquered the Seleucid east. Dependign on how they end up doing the Seleucids they could still very well make it in. Otherwise there's always the option to save a game and load up as someone else. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 09:35
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Is there an Imperator thread? Sorry if I missed it but tried to find any link to one :/
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May 21, 2018 09:37
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Omnicarus posted:Glad to see Pontus will be playable from the get-go. But...I don't want to play as loving Pontus.
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May 21, 2018 09:43
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Groogy posted:Is there an Imperator thread? Sorry if I missed it but tried to find any link to one :/ I don't think there's one yet.
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May 21, 2018 09:56
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Charlz Guybon posted:I don't think there's one yet.
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May 21, 2018 10:03
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Randarkman posted:Why not? They are on the map. The Parthians were a thing long before they conquered the Seleucid east. Dependign on how they end up doing the Seleucids they could still very well make it in. Otherwise there's always the option to save a game and load up as someone else. Forgot this, but the actual "Parthians" (as in the founders of the Arsacid dynasty) were the Parni, a Dahae people. They didn't come into Parthia until later when they conquered it. They should probably actually be on the map as a nomadic/tribal faction outside the Seleucid empire by the Caspian sea. So there should really be nothing stopping the Parthians from being playable at the 304 BC start date. They should start out as just the Parni though, with "Parthia" or "Parthian Empire/Kingdom" being a formable tag for them.  The Parni should be somewhere around here I think, in Dahestan. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 10:17 on May 21, 2018 |
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May 21, 2018 10:03
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At least 9 unit types, but I'd be surprised if they don't have a siege engine unit as well.
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May 21, 2018 10:07
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unwantedplatypus posted:I can’t wait for some crazy bastard to try and start a mega-campaign from Imperator: Rome I was actually seriously considering starting up a mega campaign LP beginning with EU:Rome last week. Don't know how I feel about now, but Imperator is still quite a way off.
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May 21, 2018 10:14
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So for the goons that were able to go to PDXCon this year: was going to the event itself worth it? Someone (Ofaloaf?) had mentioned before that they kinda ran out of things to do my mid-afternoon on Saturday. Did Sunday's events/panels/etc. and the party thing make up for it? Also: anyone know if there is a VOD up of last night's Hearts of Iron multiplayer thing yet? I haven't seen one on the PDX official Twitch channel (tbh there's not a ton of VODs from PDXCon up there at all...) Edit: alternately does anyone have a recommended multiplayer LP of HOI4 on Youtube, ideally post-Wanking the Tiger (and not the official ones that PDX did for release)?
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May 21, 2018 10:27
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I enjoyed it, but I live here. I thought the panels were pretty interesting.
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May 21, 2018 10:28
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quote:aradox Grand Strategy: Veni, Vidi, Vicky I like this perfect new title.
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May 21, 2018 10:32
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Half the problem was that the goon group had been out drinking the two nights before Saturday, so by the afternoon half of us were shattered. It was worth it to meet some other goons, but it wouldn't be worth travelling to solo. Although I did enjoy playtesting the new CK2 board game.
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Randarkman posted:Forgot this, but the actual "Parthians" (as in the founders of the Arsacid dynasty) were the Parni, a Dahae people. They didn't come into Parthia until later when they conquered it. They should probably actually be on the map as a nomadic/tribal faction outside the Seleucid empire by the Caspian sea. But I hope you’re right and this will be a non-issue.
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