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Iron Tusk posted:Didn't they also say he was going to publish a direct response to the article? Two Weeks.
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BexGu posted:That is the real kicker isn't it? Like what would have happened if this game only got like 750K, or like barely made it across the finish line? Would the lack of budget made Chris Roberts buckle down and focus on just the core part of the game? he would probably do the same stupid poo poo just faster.
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Eonwe posted:we've got to be hitting peak crazy as far as star citizen goes well let's see, we have CitizenCon and another DS Massive Missive next week and then early next year we have complete financial insolvency scheduled so I dunno things look promising.
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Oct 2, 2015 02:21
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if you don't give Derek Smart at least part of the refund you receive from CIG as a show of gratitude you are scum imo.
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Oct 2, 2015 02:41
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I just loled really hard thinking about people raging about this in the "Social Module" right now.
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D_Smart posted:They think they're mad now. 
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 Imagine getting so deep under someones skin that they make this their header photo. DSmart da gawd 
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terrorist ambulance posted:someone please explain in plain no-meme no-irony english what is happening thanks http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/14715-CIG-Employees-Talk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company
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Eonwe posted:It's actually insanely good
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G0RF posted:Redditor claims Glassdoor reviews of CIG compromise the secret currently and formerly employees sources of Escapist's article. the claim is basically: "these glassdoor reviews mirror what we saw in the article, therefore what we saw in the article was from these glass door reviews". Wouldn't the simpler explanation be that the same people who are willing to talk about their experience on glassdoor would be the ones who are willing to be interviewed? The guy trying to make a big deal about how recent the reviews are is also dumb - their have been a string of terminations that have occurred over the past couple weeks. There is no more sensible time for those reviews to exist than recently. A Neurotic Jew fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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thatguy posted:What's the best thing for a person to yell out during CitCon? nothing you can say you would be as good as bringing an airhorn and using it to comedic effect.
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Madcosby posted:it's just so hard to communicate with people in this thread. everyone tends to act like they were above whatever embarrassment SC brings out all along. You all wanted refunds all along. You all knew no game was coming out all along. You all made money selling ships. what would you like to communicate.
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Madcosby posted:That more of you need to admit that you were bamboozled, understand now that SC was a scam, that all the jpgs, con events and "development" are just designed to extract more money, and that maintaining any financial tie with SC shows a lack of understanding, even having one ship "just in case". I mean, I'm sure there are people who have sunk money into the game and aren't admitting it, but there really isn't much you can do about it so it's probably not worth stressing over  Backers remaining in denial is part of the entertainment, and you can usually tell when someone won't admit to being invested but are coming at the situation from a transparent angle.
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Madcosby posted:you do nothing but ingest the dozens of hours of SC crap they peddle out, then detail the highlights for people here. youre basically chris' pawn on this forums, you and beer. and you do it for free. at least that ham whale they keep putting pictures of gets paid to promote chris next commercial Uhm. They post stuff in the context of being critical of the project. If they were just posting poo poo as a form of promotion they would have been ridiculed to the point of exile ages ago.
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Madcosby posted:i pity you the most of the people in this thread. what are you even upset about. nothing you are posting makes sense. we're just hear to have a good time at Crobert's expense just relax. 
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Now that both Sandi and Chris have had independent meltdowns from recent events, I am hoping Ortwin Freyermuth provides one as well in order to complete the chain. He seems the most self-controlled, so it's kind of a high bar, but I believe in DSmart to take us the distance.
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shrach posted:This is my final effort post in summary of the UK accounts situation. Really interesting, thanks. Even if they are not formally charged, it's a good example of investor's money being mishandled in terms of the fines alone. edit: which, if I understand this correctly, would be in excess of $5000 US?... please correct me if I'm wrong A Neurotic Jew fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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shrach posted:Not sure what you mean. None of the companies have ever filed a set of accounts so there is no way to guess how late they might be. The ones that are overdue concern the period ending 31 December 2014. Woah. This is actually a pretty big story. I just wanted to clarify one more thing: When these accounts are filed (on time or no) they are made public online? So when/if they do get along to filing them we can look at what's being spent where?
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Iron Tusk posted:This is one part I don't really believe without way more detail. I don't think uk and German employees are being paid out of a us account. Among all the things in his rant, Chris's point about line level people having no clue about the finances is probably true. Unless the leaker is CIG's Littlefinger. As someone pointed out there's a good chance they aren't using backer funds directly to fund their operation. iirc, the article said that the $8 million figure was "common knowledge" amongst the staff and expressed consistently among the people they spoke with. Which really doesn't mean much because these kinds of office rumors always exist and aren't necessarily based on anything substantial.
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Zeike posted:huh..who is that? 7 yea I would 7 this thread too if I could
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The reporter of the Escapist article says in that podcast that there was alot of information that she did not include, saying that it was "very intimate information that was even more concerning than what I showed".
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:why are there like 3 eonwes in this thread The last thread had this weird subplot where this dude who was pro-bitcoin and pro-citizen went berserk and was banned alot and would then communicate by buying everyone avatars, and at one point he bought a bunch of cute spinny elephant avatars for people. He must have spent at least 200 dollars on avatars. it was a strange time.
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Cicero posted:I worked at Amazon and it was fine. The worst part was getting massively stiffed on raises. what are your thoughts on the movie "the internship"
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Is this a game yet? yes it got a perfect score in famitsu magazine
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AP posted:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/critical-miss/14724-The-Kickstarter-Burger I kind of get what they're going for, but this is actually a pretty poor representation of what happened with Star Citizen.
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sorla78 posted:The reason why I brought it up is not because of CIG, obviously there's something off there. But more about the driving motive behind the "investigative" piece from the escapist. Depending on if your goal is pageviews or the wellbeing of employees, backer funds or crowdfunding project, you handle matters very differently. Seeing the parental struture behind this all and the background of the managing editor, I doubt that we have any journalistic standards and principles in place, that aren't set primarily to protect them from litigation but not so much to establish quality journalism. so what specifically about the article do you consider "unethical"?
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sorla78 posted:I don't find it unethical, I just found it a lazy piece that wasn't going deep enough - IMHO it was just there for pageview's sake, the editor didn't do much research herself to try to validate the claims (follow-up questions). Most of the information it contained circulated in the last SC thread already. There wasn't much new stuff at all, they didn't even pick up on stuff that we posted, the various legal entities and their connection etc. Which isn't suprising if her way to approach potential sources is twitter. This critique seems pretty lazy. Part of what makes the article valid is that she didn't include everything she was told. She left at least two sources out of the article because she e couldn't verify them. She was given video of an altercation inside CIG and she didn't add it because she couldn't verify the context. She was apparently told evidence that was even more damning than what she reported, but didn't include it because it might identify the sources. If the article was pure "click-bait" she would of just info-dumped everything she was told, waited for the hits and called it a day. She's the first reporter in the industry who reported on any of this poo poo. Even if you posted in this thread regularly there was still some pretty nice scoops (Sandi's racism). The idea that she didn't go deep enough when she's gone in to more depth than her entire field is a ridiculous standard. I just don't get where you're coming from, except that you're using the word "ethics" and "videogame journalism" together unironically, which is not a great look.
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OhDearGodNo posted:People seem to be surprised over how crazy the SC cult is. I had always assumed this was an edit 
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OhDearGodNo posted:300 employees at around 50k/yr. And let's not forget motion capture, geek friendly actors, and if the escapist article is to be believed, private real estate and cars. poo poo is not cheap.
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Sardonik posted:My refund is moving forward by the looks of it, they asked me if it was in regards to the escapist article. I told them no, it was CR's response to the escapist article. they just asked you about the escapist article out of the blue? lmao.
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