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Chalks posted:When you think about it it's actually one of their best value products yet - spending $120 to buy $100 is far better than spending $120 on an imaginary space ship! They might have got this from here: http://www.die-partei.de/2014/12/08/kauf-kein-scheiss-gold-bei-der-afd-kauf-geld-bei-uns/ G-translate https://translate.google.de/transla...s%2F&edit-text=
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Karl_Ramseier posted:no anal jokes please Has your anal quota already been filled?
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AP posted:Beer can we put some suicide prevention stuff in the OP now? I second that motion.
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Random unrelated reasons to not like germans: - We voted Hitler into office - Karl_Ramseier
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Roflan posted:I would love to effort post about the psychology of suicide but probably shouldn't. All I'll say is that if someone is in the position where they might commit suicide over the failure of a game then they were suicidal before their attachment to the game and were using it as a means to ignore the true source of their pain. The failure might not be the root cause of suicide, but sadly could serve as the final nail... I know someone (a friend of a friend) who did try to kill himself, and that guy had a sudden change of heart as he was bleeding out. Luckily an amublance arrived fast enough (he called them himself). The actual event that pushed him to do it was neglible to any normal person. Some of those people went with trash food for months to put more money in, or risked/some lost their significant other. If those are already close to suicide. It failing could push someone over. I hope it doesn't happen.
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spacetoaster posted:WE'RE NOT YOUR GOONS! Do you have to be so bloody thin skinned?
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They also seem to have settled for good but not MEGA high quality graphics. Which helps keep development costs down. Their team is ~ a dozen ? All heads included. And they can keep deadlines.
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Octopode posted:Now--that's for the US, which generally has very business-friendly consumer protection laws. In the EU and other places with more consumer-focused protection laws, it probably isn't the case. Buying online in germany: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widerruf_%28Recht%29 (not up to date but was up till 2014) Summary: After a product is delivered (S42 or the release of a Game), you have 14 days to go back on the contract. Without having to state any reasons. Though if your seller does not point out the right to do so, you have no cutoff for a refund. P.S. Fun question: How can a concept sale end in a pledge?
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Well I think the license is meaningless if you can't use the service/product (PU, S42, etc.). And this they never told me about my "Widerrufsrecht" the 14 days extend to the date they tell me about this right + :2weeks:. That's not legal knowledge, but it falls in line how the BGB (Bürgerliches Gesetzbuch) is treating stuff like that. That's like paying for any Anti-Virus Suite license and the start of service is 1 year in the future, after 2 years you still can't use the AV-Service. I dare say that's a failure to honor the contract. And thus you can ask for your money back. I highly doubt any judge (at least in germany) would go against that.
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^^ Nicely beaten Octopode posted:The rules for physical products and digital licenses are extremely different (even if they probably shouldn't be; that's the way the courts have ruled). Your example is slightly flawed. It would be like: - Paying in 2012 for 10 tracks, delivery date 2014 - up to 2014 you'd be getting not 10 tracks, but 1 teaser of two different tracks. But they're of low quality and only 3 seconds long. - 2015 you get another teaser track. What you paid for hasn't been done and hasn't been delivered. If they had delivered S42 and the PU, and even if it sucked. You'd have no recourse. But that's certainly not the case. It might be a grey legal area in the US of A. But the countries in the EU do have a somewhat different legal situation.
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Octopode posted:Once you logged in following the ToS change, you were presented with the full new ToS again when you agreed to them, fulfilling the presentation requirements. Clicking a ToS doesn't waive your customer rights in the EU. Just saying.
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https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/650657922100269056 I hope Derek Smart never stops tweeting. At last something good came out of Twitter. EDIT Is Mr. Lesnick over 40 ? (And or DISCOLANDO ?)
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There is always more: https://twitter.com/banditloaf/status/650689330264936448 
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I said come in! posted:Is there actual reason to believe the Escapist is going to retract their articles about Star Citizen? Endeavor - Hope Class
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Madcosby posted:these guys are going to run out of places to shop or places to get gaming news I guess they would be more than happy (perhaps ecstatic) to be able to buy "original" SC hardware. Pay now - get stuff in 6 months.
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sorla78 posted:INN Chatroll Dev Tracker Thanks: Star Citizen: A lot of trial and error 
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Yeah: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/descendentstudios/descent-underground?ref=nav_search Funddate: 2015 - 04 - 11 Release of first build to backers: 2015 - 10 - 03 Estimated Delivery: 2016 March
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2 things have happend that I thought would be impossible. Eonwe was probated for his posts in this thread. And he told someone to stop posting in this thread.
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Sarsapariller posted:I think it's one of the many promises they will inevitably break, but it was one of the ones I was originally very excited about- and they've still got an entire forum dedicated to it, and they had a whole show showcasing modders in the community. They went a long way towards encouraging the mod scene and never really delivered on it. Come on! Give them a break. They're still in the early stages of prototyping. They want to do it right on the first try. I think it would be grossly unfair to ask for mod support during these early days.
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efb DEREK SMART http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/10/star-citizen-the-endgame/
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AvatarOfBolrog posted:NYC stuff, you wouldn't understand. Tell you when you're older and actually understand how capitalism works. Drugs or dealing in pedo porn?
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Iron Tusk posted:Except they added about a couple hundred new items. So they have 300 items to cover every and all relations between ships to CCU ?  I mean  that's such a horrible way of dealing with it. Instead ... I mean... my brain hurts.
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I made a pre-alpha concept .png for a :CIG: emote =  . Please give feedback before it becomes a high-artifact .jpg. Thanks in advance.
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Klyith posted:honestly as funny as this thread is, a CIG / RSI / star citizen smilie is dumb. we already have Someone in here was asking for an animated .gif emote icon. Goons are bad with money. As per jabber request: 20px height:  15px height:  . Disclaimer:  Paint dabbling.
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which will be pointless as soon as this trainwreck lurches to a stop. one-thread smilies are mostly dumb.
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Iridium posted:a reminder to consider everything CIG has accomplished since they pushed their roadmap at CitizenCon 2014. Well so far they managed one of 5 for 2015...
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AvatarOfBolrog posted:Also hi friend. A friend to Seraph84 is a friend to me. Hey, you seem to be new here. I really like your style. Thanks to seraph for pointing you to this forum. May I ask what kind of work you do for him?
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AvatarOfBolrog posted:You may ask. I'd also like to ask how do you feel about this:   I'm not sure I understand how this works. Eonwe posted:how have you not been perma'd by ralp yet, lmao
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flamingdawg posted:seraph is weird and creepy i dont like him Same. Seraph please note down these numbers:   And also get some help concerning your "desires". There is help out there. And even you can deal with it.
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Fil5000 posted:When did they announce multi crew again? A long time ago, in a kickstarter far away.
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Fil5000 posted:No I know that I mean what time do they demo it again and tell us it's coming in two weeks In ~ 3 hours and 30 minutes + the time until they really start streaming. I don't expect them to be punctual.
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Octopedo posted:I'm sorry that reality doesn't fall neatly into the personal narrative you've constructed where all people who choose to spend money on a game of their choosing suffer from some mental disorder that you get to play the hero and save them from. The reality is that people see something in the game that excites them, and they are willing to spend $500,000 in a single day to support it. This is a good post. Please keep doing that.
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Paladinus posted:Ha-ha, I've just realised Octopode's name is Octopedo. Well played, whoever's done that. That's a new account. And I was suprised that he made a funny post.
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Octopedo posted:$0 = 1 btc Hi seraph.
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Octopedo posted:Am I correct in assuming this person is a butthurt plebescrub who was previously forumrekt by Invincible Forum Champion Seraph84? The only thing that was wrecked by Serapedo: His own wallet.
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Fun thing: Derek Smart stated that he thinks that Erin Roberts is a good producer and he's a good person to lead a big project.
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One million backers* :http://www.dereksmart.org/2015/10/star-citizen-the-endgame/#comment-3015N-Jack posted:How about using some deductive reasoning. Tell you what. Wait for a quiet time of activity–late, late night or early morning. A time when the Citizen Counter is not increasing. Open Chrome, Firefox, and IE. Create three fake gmail accounts in each. Register all three accounts at the same time on RSI’s site. Notice the counter increment? *might not be actual people
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