Bleusilences posted:

What are the stages?

peter gabriel posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/286855/bravo-cig-endeavor-is-a-homerun

Doyzer posted:

One hour in and $45,000 of Endeavors have been sold.

Get your money back while pubbies are throwing money at their computer screens.

AP posted:

The offer of surrender to the Star Citizen reddit appears to been withdrawn.

Innerguard posted:

Yes, it is true. I have also submitted a refund request, I'm not trusting dodgy reddit people and trying to do grey market stuff doesn't strike me right.

Raskolnikov posted:

Still no refund

I deserve this

Raskolnikov posted:

It has been acknowledged twice but no action basically. Two weeks.

ritorix posted:

Disco Lando posted:

Because of this, I took a lot of jobs and left a lot of jobs when I felt I'd learned what I could from them. I've worked as, in no particular order:
a Construction Contractor, a Barista, an IT Professional, an actual High School Drama Teacher, an Audio Engineer for both Television and Radio, a Retail Supervisor or Manager several times over, a Professional Baseball Mascot, a Telemarketer, a Stage and Film Actor, a WoW Game Master, a Prosthetics Support Specialist, a Home Improvement Professional, a Director of Operations for a Professional Baseball Team, a Cashier, a Mr. Trash, a Theme Park Performer, a Truck Loader, a Published Author of textbooks and magazine articles, a Hospitality Worker and a few others that escape recall at this moment.
I mention all this because there are all kinds of jobs, and all kinds of workplaces, and what's right for one isn't necessarily right for another, and for many workplaces, you never know if it's going to be a good fit between employee and employer until you get there. Before I came to Star Citizen, as a devout backer, I thought I knew everything I needed to about working for Star Citizen.

Capntastic posted:

When did Disco Lando go from forum poster to mod to developer? All of CIG's high profile people are just "ideas guys" and they keep firing all of the lead artists, programmers.

G0RF posted:

TenTonHammer weighs in.

Excerpt:


Read the full article.

bres0048 posted:

I had $5200 into this, started the refund about a month ago. Got 3300 back from cig and sold the remainder to silly redditors. They like going down with the ships

Furious Mittens posted:

I worked for a manufacturing firm as a project manager several years ago that came up with a new invention (on paper) that promised to bring the company millions if realized. So as we started building this thing, a lot of things came to light that weren't going to work or would need to be revised. Long story short, instead of doing what needed to be done and revising the parts that needed to be changed, the CEO and P.E. ordered everything to keep trucking along as originally planned as they went out across the globe selling this product and throwing features on top of a system that wasn't going to work in the first place.

I jumped ship well before the inevitable crash, thanks mostly in part to the CFO and some friends in accounting talking about how much money we were hemorrhaging. Take that with what I could actually see we were spending on areas of the project that weren't going to work and I could see the hand writing on the wall, along with several others.

All that being said, I don't doubt for a minute that there are people at CIG that know the financials or have access to a good portion of them and talk to the rank and file. People in the gaming and development sector could probably approximate pretty well the costs and the rest of their crazy purchases are documented across the internet. It's not hard to see where $90 mil of crowdfunds could go *poof* really quickly.

Justin Tyme posted:

Someone mentioned that they likely aren't burning the funds directly but are using it as collateral for a line of credit, how much would that conceivably boost them?

Applebee123 posted:

Well theres always the backers, offer them the chance to loan money to star citizen for a 5% rate of return, call them "War bonds" or something and have a marketing campaign, easy $20m there and you dont even need to invent any ships, the forums will be going on how its a really good investment because you know you'll get your money back and its alot higher than the rates a bank gives for deposits.

BluestreakBTHR posted:

Hi.
I'm Bluestreak.

I'm an rear end in a top hat from Boston with a low tolerance for tomfoolery and shenanigans.
I run an internet radio station (https://www.beyondthehorizonradio.com) that once was built for Star Citizen players, but then smartened right the gently caress up and diversified while leaving that shitfest behind.

Tomorrow's show will be our final, final goodbye to Star Citizen. Your friend and mine, Beer4TheBeerGod will be calling in so we can review everything that we knew was going on, and laugh over the atrocities in the Escapist comments.

BluestreakBTHR posted:

DickWulf doesn't like me. He thinks I'm an arrogant rear end in a top hat. He's not wrong.

I've had a few on in the past, just not recently. I reached out to a one J***** P*** not too long ago, we'll see if he's interested in calling in.

EminusSleepus posted:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escapist-podcast/57500-Crowdfunding-Podcast

A Neurotic Jew posted:

has the black employee been fired yet

3 posted:

In the Tanker chapter of MGS2, there's a bucket of ice that when shot, spills ice cubes everywhere that are programmed to melt realistically based on size and distribution. It is the only part of the game where there is any ice at all, and has literally zero bearing on the rest of the game, Kojima just put it in because he thought it was awesome. And it was.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Bootcha is legitimately not good with investments

T.G. Xarbala posted:

He'll have to write this off as a learning experience.

kordansk posted:

Why does it take the VP of a 300 person company to approve refunds for small charges? That seems strange in itself. Every time I have ever needed a refund it has been a normal employee, or maybe a manager 1 step above, not jumping 6 steps to the VP.

madcow posted:

Or I am not a gullible cynic and have more experience with real investigative journalism than you?

If there had been or ends up being some legitimate evidence presented as to bad happenings in CIG, like say 40% of the company getting axed within a two week (which I have experienced irl) or a verifiable audio/video clip/document that contained some racist rantings or mentions of misappropriations of funds/fraudulent activity, I might be more inclined to hop on the hate wagon and get a refund. But so far, I have seen none of that. I have just seen one shoddily written "article" with poo poo sources, likely fabrications, and bunch of rantings and empty promise from Derek Smart, a known charlatan, one of which was to release a name at 4am EST, two days ago, to help lend some credence to his claims. Yeah, he never did that, just like he never had two PhDs, never had a good game, and will never have a successful lawsuit against CIG.

I knew pretty much right after the kickstarter ended and CR kept adding more and more strech goals that there was no way in hell that SC was going to meet its original deadline, just call it a hunch. So, release dates being pushed back? Yeah, I don't care, I have seen it countless times with other games with much smaller scopes and scales. I can watch a AtV episode or what not every now and see what they are doing or aren't doing. People leaving or being fired? Welcome to running a business, it doesn't always work out for a variety of reasons, personality conflicts are one of them, and if two people really were fired for releasing information to DS, then they deserved it. For being idiots and violating an NDA, which you can be pretty much certain CIG has.

When CIG starts to layoff significant portions of the staff and starts closing down studios that is when I will start to worry. If the game development starts to bleed into late 2016 and they still haven't released anything significant, say like the first episode of SQ42, which I suspect will come out sooner than that, then I will start thinking about getting my money back/filing a chargeback.

And lets say, for the sake of argument, CIG goes under and I don't get my money back. Oh well, I have spent more on alcohol and women in my lifetime, so losing out on the pittance I gave CIG really doesn't matter to me.

madcow posted:

Or I am not a gullible cynic and have more experience with real investigative journalism than you?

PseudoFaux posted:

The quest for a refund continues. Less than 24 hours after getting the "Hey, tell us who's extorting you to get your money back" email, I got his little number


Anyone else get this? Sounds desperate.

EminusSleepus posted:

I think Darian just receive memo from Sandi lol