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BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

LCL-Dead posted:

I can help slaughter a cow for the meat but I really prefer chicken. At the same time I really want to try venison that hasn't been mixed with something else so that I can judge the "gamey" taste I hear people reference, but I have no urge to hunt and no will to learn how to clean a deer.

A small local service like the one you mentioned, but for venison, would be loving awesome.

The only problem with deer is that since it has such a low amount of fat the margin between juicy and boot leather touch is extremely small. But if you hit it just right....it amazing and the "gamey" taste isn't there. Are you next to a big hunter community? I would suggest trying to find a local butcher shop that specializes/advertised processing deer for hunters. After a certain point hunters get so much meat they start giving it to the homeless shelters

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BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Typhoon Jim posted:

Five languages, so she can call you names in ways you can't understand

Please..Please let those emails from Sandi get leaked.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Steve2911 posted:

gently caress, everyone involved in this whole thing is just terrible. Between the devs, their fans, their detractors, the journalists pursuing this and all of us watching from the sidelines there is not a single decent human being.

You can't really blame the journalists going after this. This is an amazing story of the biggest crowded funded game in history blowing up and how all the money was wasted because of one mans pride.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Raskolnikov posted:

I hope someone screenshots the whole thing before it gets [REDACTED].

It will forever be apart of SA posting/this thread now.

God I hope I get my refund. Even if it was for the 30 dollars original kick-starter tier I could use that towards the Fallen Angels game.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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How are they still going to have a con after this? Every single movement will be asking about question Smart/Escapist have brought up.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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Madcosby posted:

They'll never cancel the con

Citizen Con is long

I know they won't but how delusional can they be cause the whole thing will be a bunch of disgruntle nerds asking more and more question. Unless this is a way to get a bunch of dissenters in the same room and pull of some Night of the Long Knives poo poo.

God let this end with Chris Roberts pulling a Heaven's Gate/a Sandi blow up on stage.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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The_Groove posted:

the original kickstarter goal being $500k is funny to me, as if that's all they used to reach the current state of the game

That is the real kicker isn't it? Like what would have happened if this game only got like 750K, or like barely made it across the finish line? Would the lack of budget made Chris Roberts buckle down and focus on just the core part of the game?

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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Eonwe posted:

we've got to be hitting peak crazy as far as star citizen goes

we just have to

Sandi emails leaks with everything that was reported in the Escpaist article. THAT will be the peak.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Truga posted:

You are about 1/3rd of the way down the rabbit hole.

Proceed or turn back?

No. NO We go ALL the way down the rabbit hole. It must not end, it can only go deeper. This is a 90 million dollar hole and every last part of it must be exposed.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

terrorist ambulance posted:

what about the refunds though. People are asking for and getting their money back?

Its hit and miss. I submitted mine on the 29th and still waiting.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Decrepus posted:

I finally caught up to the thread. Time for bed see you all tomorrow thanks for everything.

Image while you sleep what could happen next!

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Wafflz posted:

Lots of people think it's a bad idea, they just aren't allowed in the cult of croberts

The convention has to be a do or die breaking point for the masses with the stuff that gets shown. If none of the modules work, or god willing, crash horrible on stage while Chris is playing them, how can the true believers possible stay faithful? Its too late for Chris to cancel the event, its too late to get something working, what the hell is he going to show? More jpgs and design plans? Announce another side project?

Please dear god let there be a mole throughout the whole thing.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

spacetoaster posted:

Wingman's game, Descent: underground, released it's playable alpha build today.

Holy poo poo really? Thought that was another Star Citizen like scam.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Puppy Galaxy posted:

I have yet to fully wrap my head around the fact that people spend thousands of dollars for fake spaceships for a game that doesn't exist

They spent it on faith and hope. If you can sell faith and hope to the masses (or a desperate niche) and anyone can make millions.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Puppy Galaxy posted:

there is nothing that makes less sense to me than this. wishing wells, televangelists, scientology, fringe politicians, bitcoin, whatever. all of those make more sense than a special imaginary spaceship for a video game that is years from being a thing

Another little wrinkle is that Star Citizen hit right at the prime video game kick-starter period. Chris Roberts was a established name, had produced games, and was trying to make something that was from a bit of forgotten niche genre. Of course the desperate and lonely where going to flock to him. I forgot who posted it earlier but most of the people that played Roberts games where probably in there teens/early 20s and now are in their 30/40s with some amount of disposable income and are still chasing the memory of how much fun they had while playing a old Chris Roberts game. The after kick-starter marketing was just a bit of genius through on how to string suckers along and sell that hope/sunk cost line even further.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Is this a game yet?

We've reached the point where goons make more content then Chris Roberts.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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brakanjan posted:

I would settle for a privateer reboot.

No deal unless they get Clive Owen again.

And Christopher Walken for good measure.

BexGu fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Oct 3, 2015

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

BluestreakBTHR posted:

I don't know about that.
If they do try to take either DS or the Escapist to court over libel or defamation, CIG may have to prove that they had a clean reputation prior to this event.

CIG and Christ Roberts seem stupid enough to rush into a suing some one and have it horribly backfire with a bunch of people being forced to testify, public court documents, finical review, etc.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
So finally got a response after I asked for a follow up on my refund request from Sept 28th

quote:

Hi there,
Thank you for your request. To confirm you are requesting a refund and to close your account?
If you can cite any press articles that prompted you to request a refund this would be helpful for our records and greatly appreciated.
Look forward to hearing back.
Best,
CIG Customer Service Team

Looks like they are trying to see just how much damage the various articles are creating.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

LCL-Dead posted:

It's been awhile since I bought any DD donuts but lets say that if a dozen donuts is priced at roughly $6 an order and you do two orders a day for 350 days that's about 4.3k. Now add in those big DD coffee box things at another $4-5 a day and you get close to that figure. You'd also have to count in the half dozen or so orders of donut holes per week for Ben and the no doubt countless breakfast sandwiches.

Aren't most DD locations also paired with a Baskin Robbins? No wonder :lesnick: is so loving fat. I mean poo poo, I'm fat, but this dude is just getting bigger and bigger.

Must be the stress eating.

Just use simple math: Every time a asset has to be redone a artist/developer eats a donut.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

LCL-Dead posted:

And drinks a large cup of coffee.

You sir, have a beautiful mind.

At first the workers hated eating that donut/large coffee. In time they learned to love it. The Sandie gave them no other choice.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

And so on and so on.

Not to be rude, but why the gently caress did you people pay so much for the promise of a virtual spaceship one day in the far future?!
You could buy a drivable toy spaceship for less, in real life! or a hundred good and actually existing games!

I can't wrap my mind around it, I honestly can't.

1. Be 12-18 when playing a Chris Roberts game for the first time
2. Identify with this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ygjD04vyU

Hope is just a god drat powerful thing.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Skoll posted:

Kinda funny how the Descent guys who broke away from CIG already have a working game up that looks pretty smooth and fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gql1zCE_Gq8

Actually kind of regretting not backing that one.....but nothing like waiting a month for patches/half off!

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

AP posted:

Smart is typing up the blog post again now.



A good ringmaster to the poo poo show keeps his audience waiting for the good stuff.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Roflan posted:

That depends. Is it in the context of him hinting that he thinks his wife has terrible taste(she does)?

The context is he had to ask permission from his wife-mom.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Kegslayer posted:

Hey buddy, I work in finance and what you're describing is utter insanity.

Adding to what's already been said, I'm not sure how much experience you have with investing much less VC type stuff but the balance of power should always be with the investor and you should always be able to see their books. It's your money and you're here to make a profit, not play a video game so acting like a trained house pet is a terrible idea. At the very least you should be demanding independently audited financial statements.

I'm not sure how much you're in for but seriously, drop whatever you're doing now and go find a financial advisor, an accountant and a lawyer, put them all in the same room and get professional help.

I'm realllyyyyy hoping Bootcha is a investor for the mob in this case.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

EminusSleepus posted:

if it is an Aurora LTI it could fetch somewhere around

$90 - easy sell
or
$110 - market price

Where do you even do that? Cause I have that I'm in the middle of getting a refund for.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Xaerael posted:

I just want to know how the gently caress he reaches his rear end to wipe? Or does he walk around the office stinking of poo poo? Do his colleagues predict his approach due to strength of odour and feedback from him walking?

Goon lore speaks of a tread that tried to answer the fat people making GBS threads question..... that only lead to madness.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Fried Watermelon posted:

just a producer credit, he supplied the cocaine

Where did the cocaine rumor come from any way? Just that he is a producer in Hollywood and love spending money?

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Synchronized posted:

Octopode, are you at all concerned about what level of quality and functionality the final product will have, or are you confident it will be everything promised? I honestly just want to know.

Octopode......won't be back for a while.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Gamesguy posted:

So Rebel Galaxy, a tiny budget game made by a two man dev team, is looking to be far better than Squadron 42 will be.

It also releases in a week.

We're getting to the point where there needs to be a list of space games that have been completed since the original kickstarter finish + 6 month date.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Al-Saqr posted:

Sorry, is this for actual loving serious?! The Swedish mob? Do we have actual proof or are we letting ourselves hype ourselves over nothing?! I mean I WANT this to be real for the dramadey of it all but if we're gonna say this is a money laundering scam we better have something loving SOLID.

No one REALLY thinks the Swedish mob is apart of this BUT it is funny as hell that some of the same people that were apart of the Gizmondo saga are apart of Star Citizen.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Dusty Lens posted:

They asked you how much you expect to get?

Yeah, they do. I'm in the process of waiting for the funds to show up at my paypal account. No idea why that step takes 5 to 10 days through.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

D_Smart posted:

They are eating the filing fees in the UK so they don't have to file as that's going to be very revealing.

Yeah, that is a big thing I don't get. Those fees are going to keep adding up and even if they close shop up in the UK they probably won't be going away. How big/how long would they need to go before some one from the tax agency starts looking into that?

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

This was D_Smart con the whole time....the most impressive ARG game ever to get goons to play Line of Defense!

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Potato Salad posted:

What the literal gently caress are you talking about.

Mark Hamill?

I'm I really going to find out in the star citizen thread that luke skywalker was in a porno?

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

G0RF posted:

MassivelyOP interviews James Hick, indie space game dev, about the game genre, Star Citizen, and even Derek Smart. He considers Derek a qualified critic of CiGs technical challenges, and addresses the question of cash reserves, hand crafted systems vs procedurally generated ones, and more.

Starts about 20 minutes in. Last's about 15 minutes.

Its kind of blow my mind just how much the space genre has expanded since 2012 and the original start citizen kickstarter. Like more then a few space games are coming out that basically do everything Chris Roberts wanted and he could have been ahead of the curve if he could have just kept his ego in check.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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Wafflz posted:

Since a lot of cultists seem to :10bux: just to read this thread and post screencaps anything posted here is now an open letter.

Ahhhhhhh Yeahhhhhh Games Star Citizen thread is going to save SA after all. All we need now is for DSmart to start his lawsuit and have the paywall go up at the same time.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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MOAR posted:

5 more years to go.

Are we going to keep doing threads like this until then?

And during release, after release, etc.

Soon all of SA will die except for the Star Citizen thread. Only when the Star Citizen thread is finish will SA truly die.

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BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

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Gorson posted:

I still don't have a clue what it is, and have zero desire to find out. The whole "gate" thing that gets attached to scandals is so loving unclever, and I wish it would stop.


Nothing will be worst then GateGate as a name so at least GamerGate has that going for it.

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