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Cocks Cable posted:And could Mack be his new teddy bear? Make it happen Marvel. Mack was possibly-maybe implied to be gay in flashbacks last season (he seemed particularly close to one of his deceased SHIELD comrades), so maybe? But that was ambiguous enough that they could still go another way with it.
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Sep 30, 2015 05:33
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Soothing Vapors posted:AVClub gave that episode a B-, further cementing my theory that I need to stop reading the AVClub Sava has never been one of their better critics.
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Well, "something" is by definition "more prominent" than "absolutely loving nothing," the status quo to date. But that article is editorializing to infer more than what he actually said. http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/feige-latcham-say-infinity-war-leads-to-the-end-of-the-avengers-as-we-know-them quote:The question I have is about the intersection of the Marvel TV universe and the film universe. We've seen a lot of references in "Daredevil" and "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.," and I'm assuming the other other shows that are coming, to what's happened in the films. Are we going to see references to the events of the TV shows in any of the movies?
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Codependent Poster posted:The first line he says is "I think that's inevitable at some point, as we're plotting the movies going forward and the shows." You know the meaning of "inevitable" right? Yes, and he was only asked about "references," not TV canon becoming "prominent" in the films. I've said all along that the films would probably have brief cameos or other Easter eggs referencing the TV series eventually. If Daredevil joins the Avengers or if fish oil is a major plot point in the 2019 Inhumans film, then sure, I'll eat crow.
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Oct 1, 2015 14:48
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Lol. Seriously, I think Skrulls are *probably* reserved for future film use, but I would love to be wrong - they'd work best with a slow-burn setup that can really only be done on TV, and any film that used them as the villains would probably degenerate into yet another climax consisting of the Avengers blasting hordes of faceless CG scrubs, which we really don't need to see again.
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Well, I'm not going to make an rear end of myself by getting dogmatic about anything like that again (except the general idea of substantive narrative crossover in the TV->film direction, which I would still be shocked to see happen; you'll get brief cameos and/or Easter eggs and that's it).
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Oct 7, 2015 20:54
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Simmons is a Skifflefuffle. Look it up.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:45
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DukeofCA posted:Unconfirmed rumors that Inhumans has been canned. Almost certainly bullshit. http://t.co/a0UR6cI64J
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Oct 10, 2015 03:44
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X-O posted:So did the end of last week's episode. And the preview. And the official synopsis, released weeks ago. Fairly major spoiler about tonight's episode, which I won't quote and will only address in very vague terms below: http://www.tvguide.com/news/mega-buzz-agents-of-shield-simmons/ Does the character described here sound like any 616 character to you? Not ringing any bells, though it could just be original.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:53
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Thank god that was a fakeout. Would have been incredibly tone-deaf to kill off the one canon gay male character in the entire MCU (and one canon LGBT character, period, until Jessica Jones premieres).
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Nov 11, 2015 03:11
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X-O posted:He's still cannon fodder. Everyone not on the main cast is. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make it out of the episode. Introducing an LGBT character just to kill him/her off is bullshit in a universe with almost no LGBT representation, sorry. But hopefully the writers have more sense than that.
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Nov 11, 2015 03:23
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The Waid series has been quite good on its own merits, but it's not that similar to the TV series - it's mostly been more of a superhero book with SHIELD characters than an espionage book in the Marvel U. The Guggenheim series looks to be more of a straight-up "the TV series but in 616 continuity" approach, for better or worse.
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Nov 15, 2015 16:55
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The MSJ posted:Fox probably never owned any movie rights to Squirrel Girl. The character being a mutant was literally one-off joke for two pages of a comic published 4 decades after her debut. The movie rights thing is not always so simple. Making a mutant character in the comics into a non-mutant will not automatically change its movie rights status, just like revealing a character to be a mutant in the comics will not give Fox the rights to that character. Yeah, the notion that Fox automatically owns the rights to any character defined as a mutant in 616, regardless of their level of ties to the X-franchise, has never made sense. And if the lawyers had already determined Fox had the rights to her, it wouldn't make a drat bit of difference what Marvel did with her in the comics.
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Nov 18, 2015 01:54
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This is much better than the last few episodes, or probably the whole season thus far.
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Nov 18, 2015 03:36
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Oh, it's Magneto.
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Nov 18, 2015 03:45
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Glad that this finally brought all the season's plot threads together. The lack of focus has been one of S3's bigger weaknesses thus far.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Or, just maybe, there's such a thing as a slow burn on overarching plotlines, and you're super impatient. No, this show has actually done a much better job of keeping disparate plotlines relatively unified with an overarching threat before (the first ten episodes of S2, which I still think are the strongest run the series has had to date). I mean, it's still leagues better than S1, but since then, the show has spent too much time on storylines that either aren't very interesting on their own merits (the other SHIELD last season, S3 Ward up until this episode), or take too long to cohere into a satisfying whole (the Lash/portal/ATCU storylines this season, up until this episode). Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Nov 18, 2015 06:16
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greatn posted:Will the equipment they were talking about last episode they said was from the sixties, since Carter is in the forties it's unlikely. Nope, Fonseca isn't coming back. Probably some sort of BTS politics, who knows.
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Nov 19, 2015 17:28
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Are there plenty of worse shows out there than the first half of S1? Sure. But it was not a good show at that point, and with so much actual good TV out there competing for our limited free time, I wouldn't feel bad about advising anyone to read the Wikipedia synopses or whatnot instead.
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Nov 23, 2015 17:58
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Phylodox posted:Agents of SHIELD was never a bad show. When it started out, it just wasn't what anyone was expecting it to be. Everyone had high expectations about a TV series that tied into the Marvel movie universe, but it only really did that tangentially. When it started out, it was a pretty good, if not exactly revolutionary, procedural show. Of course, the whole procedural set-up was just to establish a status quo for them to completely subvert, and now Agents of SHIELD is, in my opinion, one of the best things about the MCU. Nah, even on its own merits, it simply wasn't very good. There were a couple decent episodes early on, but it didn't really even start to justify its existence until the second half of S1.
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Nov 23, 2015 18:25
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Huge grain of salt, but a badly written fansite I've never heard of before is claiming that Yo-Yo Rodriguez has been cast for the back 12 of the season.
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hope and vaseline posted:Her instagram thingy seems accurate also https://www.instagram.com/p/-Vi0lcIM8X/, Juan Pablo Raba is the inhuman melty guy, though it's entirely possible she might be cast as something else, like how the von strucker kid was initially reported as playing Phobos. Hmm, guess she's an uncredited (in the press release) guest star in the midseason finale, then? Too soon for them to have started filming the back 12.
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Nov 25, 2015 19:16
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Goddamn, this season has really picked up.
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I'm starting to think that they originally had much more ambitious plans for the Secret Warriors, but that the budget for S3 was cut significantly shortly before or shortly after production started. It would explain a lot. I mean, when your one big fight scene takes place entirely off-camera, and when your superpowered characters use their powers for about ten seconds, and when Jeff Bell is implying in interviews that they'll continue teasing SW over the course of the back 12,, you've got problems.
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Rocksicles posted:Barry's predictions ought to be stickied. I don't think I predicted anything, other than that the show will continue to look and feel cheap. Especially in comparison to Flash and Supergirl, which manage to deliver multiple FX-heavy action scenes every episode.
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Onean posted:Yeah, they put the scenes out of sync for dramatic tension, and possibly budget and time concerns as well since they don't have to shoot a scene for everyone escaping to the pod. They did almost exactly the same thing for when Fitz pulled Simmons out the first time. That's kind of my problem with this whole episode in a nutshell - the plot wasn't bad, but the most visually interesting, exciting events all happened offscreen. Hence my speculation above about budget cuts - the show has never been renowned for its visual flair, but I don't recall the first two seasons feeling this threadbare.
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Aphrodite posted:The Hydra Inhuman is obviously going to be powerful, it's just funny that it was so wimpy in this episode after all the talk. http://comicbook.com/2015/12/09/exclusive-agents-of-shield-ep-jeff-bell-on-when-well-see-the-sec/ EP Jeffrey Bell posted:I would say it's certainly a warning shot over the bow. They certainly came in and were helpful. It was the first time that they were put together in some kind of meaningful way, and I would say just keep looking forward to more of that as we ... I think we, as writers on the show, feel like we have to earn this group. It wasn't just like everybody who had a power could suddenly get a cool uniform and be part of a team, you have to figure out how to do that. Yeah, we're moving in that direction. That sure sounds like they're going to continue slow-walking the Secret Warriors for the rest of the season.
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I actually do like the show despite my qualms, and the last two episodes were quite good. But it's pretty drat flawed and the budget limitations feel a lot more noticeable than in the first two seasons. If you'd rather I'd be all sunshine and rainbows about it, that's not going to happen.
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Blazing Ownager posted:I love how Simmons is racking up a massive double-digit accidental death tally at this point. I'm not comparing it to a movie, just to the other superhero shows currently airing on network television. However the budget actually stacks up, SHIELD's visuals have consistently felt blander and cheaper than the likes of Flash and Supergirl, which manage to deliver multiple FX-heavy action scenes in almost every episode. If they're blowing most of their budget on locations to the point where they can't provide a single proper action/fight scene in the midseason finale, they need to get their priorities straight.
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mikeraskol posted:Perhaps they just didn't want/need one. The episode was packed to the gills with content, was suspenseful and really fun. You seem to believe that the episode has to have an fx-heavy fight or something to be justified or be a good midseason finale. Flash did and was terrible, Shield didn't and was good. I liked the Flash finale, but that's beside the point. I'm fine with an action-light episode when and if the lack of action naturally arises from the story being told, i.e. the Simmons episode earlier this season wouldn't have really worked with a CG-heavy battle against the monster. But this episode had plenty of Hydra/SHIELD and Inhumans action going on; we just didn't get to see most of it. Bottom line is that it felt written around budget constraints, and not organically so. Also, of course Flash and Supergirl have had the occasional dodgy CG shot, but I don't understand how anyone can point to them and claim that the FX aren't great by network TV standards, let alone worse than SHIELD's. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Dec 9, 2015 |
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Jonny_Rocket posted:This creature that came back from Maveth has to be this guy, right? It could still be an Inhuman. Not like they're wedded to 616 backstory for any character they adapt. And it's always possible that it could be something else, but Hive is from Secret Warriors and the general concept of the character matches what we've seen well enough, so he's the best guess.
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Charles Gnarwin posted:The hashtag is the part that gets me because canceling AoS would mean Ward going away. Fandoms can be really fuckin weird. FWIW, the main reason why I'm down on Secret Warriors - well, besides the budget complaints - is because one of the EPs hemmed, hawed, and equivocated when he was asked about it. He could have easily answered the question with something straightforward like "yes, this is the beginning of the Secret Warriors, and you'll see plenty more of them when the show returns in March!," but he didn't. I would love to be wrong, but until we see/hear more to the contrary, I'm not optimistic.
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In case anyone is wondering whether Wilkes is really dead, it's *probably* not a coincidence that he has the same name as a very obscure Marvel character. http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix5/wilkesjason.htm
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Apoplexy posted:Can we say HELLFIRE IS COMING BACK? AoS might - MIGHT - actually be casting the Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider for S4. http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/wait-is-ghost-rider-coming-to-agents-of-shield-after-all I figured they'd be doing some sort of supernatural storyline tangentially related to Doctor Strange, but I wouldn't have expected that. Even on the series' budget, I'd take that over another Inhumans storyline any day.
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Burning_Monk posted:Didn't Netflix just get the rights to do a Ghost Rider series? No, that was a laughably sourced rumor. (and semantic nitpick - Netflix doesn't make or own TV shows, they don't get the "rights to do" anything, just to air them)
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counterfeitsaint posted:Netflix makes several of it's own shows in addition to airing other shows though? Not exactly. They don't have an in-house TV studio like Amazon does; they just pay other studios for exclusive distribution rights.
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The Red Queen posted:http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/agents-of-shield-can-now-use-classic-inhumans-says-whedon I'm pretty skeptical of this, because it's not a direct quote from Whedon and the only source reporting it is io9 (CBR is just citing their story); at least one other outlet at that roundtable has reported it quite differently. http://collider.com/comic-con-2016-agents-of-shield-panel-recap/ quote:Now that Marvel has bumped the Inhumans movie from its current slate, there could be a bigger opening for the show to explore that roster of character. Both Bell and Loeb said it’s going to be easier to explain the origins of characters’ new powers, while Tancharoen and Whedon feel they now have more freedom to expand into that world. While they did not comment on whether they would be able to tap into any of the classic or more popular Inhuman characters, expect to see further integration of Inhumans into this new season. That said, if it's true, the Inhumans movie is definitely 100% dead.
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