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EponymousMrYar posted:That's true for everything we've seen. I'd say we're only halfway through the game at this point though (maybe 2-3rds) so there's a lot more to see. "Only 2/3'rds in" is not really a good argument for the story at-large being about Tidus when the story's already mostly told. The journey's as important as the destination in these kinds of stories, if not more so, and the journey has not been about Tidus.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:"Only 2/3'rds in" is not really a good argument for the story at-large being about Tidus when the story's already mostly told. The journey's as important as the destination in these kinds of stories, if not more so, and the journey has not been about Tidus. But it has. It has been about him learning about Spira, coming to care for it, and rejecting the world as it is. The story has not been about Yuna's pilgrimage, that has been the hook. The excuse to travel. This pilgrimage wouldn't have gotten anywhere without Tidus and Auron, and Auron is not here for Yuna, he's here for Tidus. Without Tidus, we don't have much of a story, because Wakka is too indoctrinated to do anything, Lulu is to burnt out, and Kimarhi would be all alone. Rikku would not have joined if Auron had not vouched for her. And Auron is only along as an excuse to force Tidus to see Spira in all of its seedy underbelly, instead of just rotting in Luca playing Blitzball. And Yuna has a self-sacrifice complex as big as Sin itself, so she would have been completely boned. Sin is just a big doom whale to everyone but Tidus and Auron, to whom he is Jecht, and it is Tidus's arc to surpass and understand his father, following his footsteps. EDIT: And Tidus is the only one who can save Spira. Because he's the only one who hasn't been indoctrinated by Yevons bullshit and he isn't a pariah. Onmi fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Onmi posted:But it has. It has been about him learning about Spira, coming to care for it, and rejecting the world as it is. Except that's still more Yuna's story for those same reasons. Tidus has been on Spira five minutes, while Yuna's grown up her entire life under the teachings of Yevon and is only now having to accept that all is not right and good under its teachings. Everything that drives the plot forward, for better or worse, is by Yuna's actions. She's proactively trying to stop Seymour on multiple occasions, and all Tidus ever does is assist with cleanup along with the rest of the party (I never said her ideas and actions were smart, after all  ). I'm in no way saying Tidus is something to be excised (he's little more than a party member like the rest), and besides which the story would still be largely the same anyway, because Rikku would still be chasing Yuna due to them being cousins.. Tidus still has a place in the story with an end-goal or two of his own, he's just not front-and-center as the protagonist despite what he thinks.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Except that's still more Yuna's story for those same reasons. Tidus has been on Spira five minutes, while Yuna's grown up her entire life under the teachings of Yevon and is only now having to accept that all is not right and good under its teachings. Everything that drives the plot forward, for better or worse, is by Yuna's actions. She's proactively trying to stop Seymour on multiple occasions, and all Tidus ever does is assist with cleanup along with the rest of the party (I never said her ideas and actions were smart, after all Except she's not accepting it, she's still going on with her foolish idea of sacrificing herself. She's trying to stop Seymour because he's a murderer, not because of anything else. You know what? Ultimately it isn't her story for one very single clear reason. Her motivation and her character are kept secret and they never drive the plot. Her Pilgrimage is an excuse given by the game to travel, but the pilgrimage itself isn't the story. The games story is about Tidus and Jecht and their relationship. Ultimately, even if the pilgrimage is Yuna's 'journey' it's not her 'story' because from the plot the game itself is telling, it's not important. What is important is Tidus's reactions and feelings and personal journey. If this were Journey to the West, Tidus would be Sun Wukong and Yuna would be Xuanzang. It's her trip, but it's not her story. It is far more the story of Sun Wukong and his learning discipline and achieving enlightenment. Yuna is the reason they're travelling, but the story isn't about Yuna.
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I see this game as Tidus's story, even though the plot does hinge on Yuna. While this is Yuna's journey, Tidus is the one who has, thus far, seen and been forced to learn the most. He's the one who sees the loose threads in Yevon's history because he has first hand knowledge of nearly-mythical Zanarkand. The plot so far hasn't been about Yuna uncovering Yevon's corruption, that was incidental as she's still planning to go through with the pointless sacrifice, but about Tidus slowly becoming invested in the party and Spira as a whole by observing Yuna's journey. It's just taken until the point where he finally figured out the purpose of this trip before he finally decided to step up and act as s protagonist rather than just another party member.
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But we can all agree that Tidus declaring that this is HIS story is narcissistic and douchebaggy, right?
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If Tidus had a deeper voice closer to Drake from Uncharted, the vendetta against Tidus would've been far less over the years.
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Random_Username posted:But we can all agree that Tidus declaring that this is HIS story is narcissistic and douchebaggy, right? Well to be fair, Auron was the one putting this in his head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5Emptr3tE In fact Auron has a couple of variations on it through the game. I always took it as him trying to force Tidus to not become a bystander. He's forcing him to think of the adventure as about him, and dropping information like Sin being Jecht, taking him off the beaten path for the Jecht sphere, insisting that Tidus come with him etc. He's not letting Tidus just say "Wait, I'm not FROM Spira, the only thing I care about is getting home." EDIT: Auron is not quite Citan, but he's definitely a dick manipulating Tidus. Onmi fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Tae posted:If Tidus had a deeper voice closer to Drake from Uncharted, the vendetta against Tidus would've been far less over the years. Now I'm imagining Tidus as voiced by Steve Blum instead, and it's hilarious.
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I think y'all are overanalyzing the story/his story/her story thing a bit. It can be both their story. Story.
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YeOldeButchere posted:Now I'm imagining Tidus as voiced by Steve Blum instead, and it's hilarious. Keith David is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhvrfmcvLk
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Is Tidus just lucky that he washed up on Besaid? I mean if he'd ended up travelling up with Dona or Isaaru, his and Yuna's stories could have turned out very differently.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Is Tidus just lucky that he washed up on Besaid? I mean if he'd ended up travelling up with Dona or Isaaru, his and Yuna's stories could have turned out very differently. He washed up in the middle of the ocean, then when Sin attacked he woke up on Besaid. So no, I'd say Jecht specifically took him there.
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Kheldarn posted:I also find it interesting that Wakka & Khimari have the same VA. I wanted to quote this from a million pages back, but John Dimaggio has enough varied roles that he could essentially star in his own one-man animated series.
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Onmi posted:He washed up in the middle of the ocean, then when Sin attacked he woke up on Besaid. So no, I'd say Jecht specifically took him there. Which makes sense considering Jecht's history with both Braska and Yuna. Plus, at least some of this seems to be Jecht's plan that Auron is helping to implement. That's what I got from the bit when Auron is talking to Sin just before the teleport to the future, at least.
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Onmi posted:You know what? Ultimately it isn't her story for one very single clear reason. Her motivation and her character are kept secret and they never drive the plot. Are you being willfully obtuse? While, no, the game never comes out and sits you down and explains her motivation as if you were a three-year old with Down's syndrome until near the end of the story (where we are now), but her motivation and her character are abundantly clear to anyone who can think critically for more than two seconds about what is going on. She talks constantly about her duty as a summoner to help people and bring hope to Spira, even and especially at her own expense. And they have driven the plot multiple times, gently caress it's the entire reason they leave Besaid in the first place. Not to mention Yuna is the one who originally plans to kill Seymour, forcing everyone else to follow her. You have to outright ignore huge chunks of the game to even begin to pretend that Yuna's motivation is hidden and her actions don't drive the story.
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Who What Now posted:Are you being willfully obtuse? While, no, the game never comes out and sits you down and explains her motivation as if you were a three-year old with Down's syndrome until near the end of the story (where we are now), but her motivation and her character are abundantly clear to anyone who can think critically for more than two seconds about what is going on. She talks constantly about her duty as a summoner to help people and bring hope to Spira, even and especially at her own expense. And they have driven the plot multiple times, gently caress it's the entire reason they leave Besaid in the first place. Not to mention Yuna is the one who originally plans to kill Seymour, forcing everyone else to follow her. You have to outright ignore huge chunks of the game to even begin to pretend that Yuna's motivation is hidden and her actions don't drive the story. You misunderstand me, I was too broad. Yuna has left the party multiple times and we've never followed her viewpoint we will in the future, every revelation is followed up by Tidus's reaction to them, not Yuna's. Yuna is Xuanzang. It's her pilgrimage, but the plot of the game is not the pilgrimage. When I say Yuna's motivation is 'hidden' from the player, I do not mean literally hidden since anyone with basic comprehension knows that her entire character is self-sacrifice and believing that dying for a little bit of peace is a good thing. It is secret as in "Why did Yuna decide to marry Seymour. We don't know yet, because Tidus doesn't know yet. When Tidus knows, then we the player know. Why didn't we know that the pilgrimage kills the summoner? Not because we literally can't know and it's not hinted 100 times (because it is) but Tidus didn't know. When he did that changed. And what was the focus of the revelation? Tidus's reaction, his outburst and a shift in his world view." "Yuna is the main character" was one of the first in a long line of "X is the main character" that came about because a character had main plot importance and it wasn't all about the main character. It came about when people couldn't comprehend that it can be someone elses quest and not the story of the game, also the fact that most people didn't like Tidus meant that much like "Squall is dead" people jumped to something if it meant making it better in their head. I'm not trying to say Yuna doesn't have plot importance. That's dumb. But it's not her story yet. It's her journey. It starts being her story when we catch up to the present and her roll changes.
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Tae posted:If Tidus had a deeper voice closer to Drake from Uncharted, the vendetta against Tidus would've been far less over the years. So he's MGS2 Raiden, hated unjustly for a bunch of superficial reasons.
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Who What Now posted:Are you being willfully obtuse? While, no, the game never comes out and sits you down and explains her motivation as if you were a three-year old with Down's syndrome until near the end of the story (where we are now), but her motivation and her character are abundantly clear to anyone who can think critically for more than two seconds about what is going on. She talks constantly about her duty as a summoner to help people and bring hope to Spira, even and especially at her own expense. And they have driven the plot multiple times, gently caress it's the entire reason they leave Besaid in the first place. Not to mention Yuna is the one who originally plans to kill Seymour, forcing everyone else to follow her. You have to outright ignore huge chunks of the game to even begin to pretend that Yuna's motivation is hidden and her actions don't drive the story. Onmi is a literal unironic Gamergator and creepy misogynist, it's probably better to just ignore him entirely. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Onmi is a literal unironic Gamergator and creepy misogynist, it's probably better to just ignore him entirely. I- WHAT?! I'm neither of those things you jumped up mutant gently caress!
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Onmi is a literal unironic Gamergator and creepy misogynist, it's probably better to just ignore him entirely. So because you dislike or disagree with what the guy is saying, you jump to a personal attack? Classy.
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Keldulas posted:So because you dislike or disagree with what the guy is saying, you jump to a personal attack? Classy. Looking at his rap sheet, it seems to be a habit of his. But that's neither here nor there. Just ignore him and let's keep to the FFX (and other Id-played games) discussion before TDI locks this thread out of rage, shall we?
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Keldulas posted:So because you dislike or disagree with what the guy is saying, you jump to a personal attack? Classy. Pfft. I haven't even been reading his posts in this thread. I know he's a gamergator because of posts he's made elsewhere on the forums. Bufuman posted:Looking at his rap sheet, it seems to be a habit of his. If you mean me, I'm a she, thank you.
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So how bout that Final Fantasy X, huh? What a game!
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zakharov posted:So how bout that Final Fantasy X, huh? What a game! It holds a certain amount of nostalgia for me It is the first Final Fantasy I played
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zakharov posted:So how bout that Final Fantasy X, huh? What a game! It's true, I'm only here for Garnet butt shots. I don't even know what this game is called.
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Kheldarn posted:It's true, I'm only here for Garnet butt shots. I don't even know what this game is called.  Speaking of which, I'd better go read that new update. Maybe everyone will finally remember Dr. Tot.
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Boy this thread needs a time out.
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After playing some Theatrhythm, I remember now how good a lot of the music in this game is. Never really cared for Challenge, though.
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I think someone already said as much earlier but it is Tidus' story and he is the protagonist of it, however in "the story of spira" Yuna is the protagonist. If you told X again from anyone else's perspective you wouldn't get the entire story, there's an entire shadowy under-plot where Auron (and possibly sin jecht?) is manipulating Tidus towards the end of killing Sin that would be lost if you changed perspective to Yuna. So, yeah, like what was said regarding FFT: He's not going to make it into the history books but Tidus is a huge catalyst for the story.
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Episode LXXI: Rock My Dragon Music: Underground Activities .jpg) So Yuna has somehow managed to bumble into a marriage with an undead Seymour Guado of some variety. I'm sure she has a clever angle she's working. But in the, if you ask me opinion highly unlikely, scenario in which Yuna is way in over her head. I suppose it's time to mount a rescue operation. Everyone on the Fahrenheit bridge once more has a bit to gab about. Rikku and Auron have the most to speak on the matter... .jpg)  “Didn't we... take care of him in Macalania?" ”You know...” *sticks tongue out and rolls eyes in back of head* "He is dead. As dead as Jyscal was. His attachment to this world kept him from the next." "Whoa, scary!” ”...Wait that's a THING in Spira?” "Yuna must be trying to send him." "Wonder if that will work." "Perhaps he won't expect it." ”Hey... can we go back to this zombie thing...? Hello?” "Bevelle... It's been ten years."Soooooooo... Seymour is, in fact, a zombie. Apparently people in Spira if killed and left unsent can, if .jpg)  “You or Rikku should study your magic, just in case."Lulu may as well just go “hint HINT!” Learning any magic isn't happening at this point as I am not going back to grind so three people who aren't all that hot at magic abilities can brush up their skills. But preparing our Sphere Grid for some upcoming unpleasantness is a solid idea. .jpg) .jpg) Particularly, that Special Sphere we recently acquired can come in handy. At this point in the game I like to burn that on Tidus to have him go ahead and learn Rikku's Use skill. You'll see why in a bit. .jpg) "It's called a wedding dress." "What!?"Are tailors in Spira unbelievably speedy at their trade or did Seymour already have Yuna's measurements for that dress? I mean... it's been like two hours since the last time anyone has seen Yuna. For that matter, how did Yuna get kidnapped from Bikanel Island and get hauled all the way back to Bevelle back on the mainland in that time? Spoilers: Yevon does NOT have any airships. This is the only one in existence in operational shape we'll see this game. I feel like there's a lot of jumps happening in this part of the game that don't really hold up to even the lightest of scrutiny. .jpg) Tidus begins to wander out of the airship's bridge, but is greeted with a whole mess of motion blur and the ship shaking in turn. Were the other game cutscenes Square put out around this time so heavy on the motion blur effect? I mean... there's just The Bouncer prior to this. I'd check but... that would mean playing The Bouncer and eh... I think I'm good. Yes, I own a copy of The Bouncer. .jpg) .jpg)  "You're awfully calm about it!" "I am calm about most things." ”Yeah it's always frikkin' casual Fridays with you.”.jpg) .jpg) Rikku erupts seemingly from the ground to deliver a line in a faux-southern accent. .jpg) Pictured: A father's shame at realizing his daughter has become the quirky comic relief. .jpg) “If you crash the ship, we can't go rescue Yunie!” ”Who the hell said anything about crashing the ship? Brother. Where is your sister getting' these ideas?” “E tuh'd lyna! Cdub sygehk dra creb cryga! E ys kuehk du cred so byhdc ev ed tuac dryd ykyeh! Ku!” “...”.jpg) *fist pump* “Yeah! Let's go!” “Thanks.” “Rikku, you've made some very good friends, I think. Good luck.” ”You have my full support. For reasonable discount prices.”.jpg) Despite the fact we did a full tour of the entire interior of the Fahrenheit last update, fiends have invaded the ship... somehow. Look, they didn't want you to get locked into a failure state if you needed to grind out a few Sphere Grid levels prior to this next boss. Just roll with it. .jpg) .jpg) The encounter rate on board is extremely low. We're talking I went through the entire ship again and got a single random battle the entire time low. It's the same stable of creatures that were attacking Home. Just no Guado handlers this time around. I think that entire race might be on a Kill On Sight list with the Al Bhed until further notice. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) If you're wondering about the other supposedly combat ready NPCs, they're all busying themselves defending random hallways and making up excuses as to why they cannot participate with the playable party. Airship corridors are too cramp my rear end, Dona. I've already seen the battle version of the ship's interiors. You could fit something the size of Anima in here no problem. You're just being a slacker.  .jpg) Our ultimate destination is the back of the airship at the observation deck. I suppose that conspicuously placed save point might have been a bit of a tip-off that some poo poo would inevitably go down before our ride on the skies concluded. The Al Bhed camping out up here will throw four Al Bhed potions our way if we chat them up. Not that we need any more. I have a stock of 99 AL BHED POTIONS. Hmm... HMM! It's like the game might want me to use those around now. I wonder what that's all about.  "Huh, now there's a rare sight." "Whoa, that's huge!" "What is that?!" "The guardian wyrm, Evrae. The great sacred beast -- protector of Bevelle!" "The red carpet has teeth." "Wait, that means we're close to Bevelle!" ”Wait... why does Yevon have a dragon?!” “Yeah! Seconding that! What the heck?! Nobody thought the church having a pet dragon fiend was weird?” “Well... it is a sacred beast and... I...” *sigh* “I've got nothing...”The PA system crackles on... .jpg) "Rikku, you read me? We're gonna fight that thing! Get on deck and show him what you got! Go!" "The ferryman asks a high price." ”Yeah... So do you Al Bhed folks have any more... I dunno... GUNS around we could borrow. I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm getting pretty good with this sword and all but... Uhh...” *looks out window at dragon flying by again* “...I'm just kinda seeing a problem here is all...”.jpg) Alright. So we're going to climb onto the outer hull of this plane and fight a dragon now. That is what our plan is, huh? We're going with that? Sure... Fine... Let's go fight the dragon. I'm not calling it a wyrm. I've seen and fought wyrms before. No five story penis anywhere in sight. Clearly not a wyrm. .jpg) "Evrae is truly mighty. Be well prepared.".jpg) Rin decided to sprint past the party during that last cutscene to open up shop one final time before we head out to the ill-conceived boss battle. How nice of him to... start charge us standard prices in a life or death situation... .jpg) “If we lose, you'll die too, buddy!" "I have faith in your victory." "Gee, thanks."At least someone finally called out a merchant for being an opportunist scumbag. Still, Rin isn't nearly as bad as that O'aka shithog. Hopefully that guy got ganked after the Guado went into a blood rage about Seymour's assassination and they saw he was following us a round. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Music: Enemy Attack .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) Anyway, let's all climb on top of an aerial vehicle in motion so two swordsmen, a cat with a spear, a 15 year old girl with a dagger, and a guy with a soccer ball can take on a dragon in mid-flight. Sounds reasonable. .jpg) .jpg) It's not entirely a lost cause. Captain Cid hasn't forgotten the missile launchers the Fahrenheit comes equipped with just yet. They'll instead be completely forgotten after this battle. .jpg) Right so... Hmm... Lulu how good are you at aiming magical spells? And what's the distance on 'em? This might be important information. Kimahri... Well, you still have that Self-Destruct Overdrive, right? What if we... hmm... What if we constructed some kinda slingshot and launched Kimahri at the... No? That's out? Huh... Alright. .jpg) “Y'all have to tell me when to move!”.jpg) .jpg) "Roger! I'll give the commands!" "Not alone, you won't!" ”What is this some dumb kid pissin' match? Our lives are at stake. I don't give a drat who does it! Just anyone tell me. Gawsh.”.jpg) .jpg) Welcome to the gimmick of the Evrae boss battle. During this fight Tidus or Rikku can command Cid to move the airship towards or away from the dickless wyrm. But ONLY Rikku and Tidus because...*trails off* .jpg) People seem to have trouble with this battle but... yeah I thought this was a complete cake walk. Like to the point I forgot this was even a boss fight until replaying for the LP here. .jpg) Our first order of business should be to immediately do just that and have Cid pull back the airship away from the attacking dragon. Ignore how the Fahrenheit was a VTOL that could outrun a nuclear explosion in that FMV earlier. You can see Cid's portrait has been added to the turn line-up. It'll take that long from the time Tidus or Rikku yells at him to pull back to him receiving the message, processing the information, and informing Brother of our party's intent and pitch the ship slightly to the left. .jpg) While we wait for that, we can take a few rounds to wail on Evrae with our physical heavy hitters. Evrae comes packing a hearty 32,000 HP and is resistant to all magical attacks. But it is also not particularly smart or bothering to adhere to gravity's laws. So while the airship is close to the dragon, it will just lazily float alongside the speeding vessel, well within striking range of men with pointy sticks. .jpg) Given the elemental resistances, you'd think we would want to stay close to Evrae to pound it with attacks up close. But the trouble is the thing hits like a truck the first half of the battle. We're talking a single swipe doing 1,000 to 1,500 HP and a critical outright one-shotting the squishier members of our clan. .jpg) .jpg) Given some time before Cid shifts the airship, our first order of business should be to Power Break the Evrae to downsize its physical strikes to a more reasonable 600ish HP a swipe. That will definitely make life easier later on. But for now... .jpg) Got to go! Yes, there's absolutely no reason why you couldn't just fly right over immediately to follow us. Or why you are flying sideways to begin with. Video games! .jpg) Now that we're at a distance, our offensive capabilities are a bit neutered. Wakka can, amazingly, kick a blitzball 500 yards, tag the dragon in the face, and have it bounce back right into his hands while riding an airplane in mid-flight. Yet he somehow has mediocre accuracy as a blitzball player. Go figure. It goes without saying but Kimahri is useless while we're at a distance. But so is Auron as he is 100% physical attacks and well that's just not happening here. Rikku as well since her scrawny rear end cannot throw any of her Use items worth a drat (beyond healing ones of course.) Lulu will have to back-up Wakka for a bit. Even if Evrae only takes 50% damage to elemental attacks, half a Fira or Blizzara is better than no damage output at all. .jpg) Tidus is useless offensively right now. But it's good to keep him out to get a buff train rolling alongside Wakka and Lulu. Haste should be the obvious candidate for Wakka/Lulu/Tidus. But Cheer can be rolled out a few times to keep everyone healthy and give Wakka's ball kicking an edge. .jpg) Evrae might not be able to figure out the tactic of flying closer to its prey just yet. But that doesn't mean it is defenseless. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) As long as it is out of range of the party, it will spam Photon Rays all over the Fahrenheit's deck. Will strike random members of the party about a dozen times for around 100 HP each hit. It's really not too big of a deal. We're looking at 600-800 HP down for the entire party. It's fine. .jpg) .jpg) That might be obnoxious to heal up. But remember how I gave Tidus the Use ability? And remember how I said we had 99 Al Bhed Potions in storage? Well guess what! This is where that becomes a great big handy thing to have set up. We could swap Rikku in to do the deed and... I even have Kimahri able to use err... Use since I'm sending him down Rikku's path. But we can barely break a sweat from Tidus' cheer-leading routine for a quick full party 1,000 HP heal and carry on like Photon Rays never happened. Spoilers: Al Bhed Potions trivialize this entire battle. It's like there was a reason they'd thrown them non-stop at us for the entirety of Bikanel Island/Home/The Airship. .jpg) You may have noticed Cid's ugly mug is still on the turn order display even though he hasn't been given any orders. That's because while we're pulled away from the Yevon attack dog, he'll now use his next three turns to unload the Fahrenheit's missile reserves on Evrae's face. .jpg) Sadly, Cid dumped all his tactical nuclear warhead reserves on Home earlier. So the missile salvo from the Fahrenheit only does around 200 HP per missile for about a dozen missiles. Still, that's a healthy 2,400ish damage for a free turn. I'll take it. .jpg) Cid only has enough missile reserves for three guided missile strikes. But that's plenty of time to hang out at range plinking away with Wakka's balls and Lulu's fire. Wait... that came out wrong... .jpg) Once Evrae drops to 1/3rd HP (usually right around Cid's third missile salvo funny enough) it will decide it has had enough of our bullshit and auto-cast Haste on itself. There is nothing we can really do about that. If Tidus casts Slow on Evrae it will just auto-cast Haste once again to negate that. .jpg) .jpg) Once Haste is cast, Evrae can performing Swooping Scythe to hit the entire party for around 300-500 HP and close the distance with the airship. So much for our nonsensical tactical advantage in this silly fight. .jpg) .jpg) In the second phase of the battle, the wyrm stops goofing around and begins dishing out nasty status effects. Stone Gaze will petrify any party member it hits. Even if they happen to have a resistance to Petrification, it still afflicts 'em with Slow. So it's a real bummer either way. A petrified party member is essentially out of the battle until the status is cleared up. And if Evrae decides to be a real dick, it can strike a petrified party member to shatter them. Which both instantly kills said member of the party and completely removes them (and the slot they filled) from the battle. .jpg) Definitely don't want to go down at this late stage in the fight. But not to worry. Al Bhed Potions clear petrification right up and top off everyone else's HP as well. .jpg) When getting fairly low on HP, Evrae will burn a turn just doing a motion blurred roar and inhaling its breath. This is its tell that is about to do Poison Breath its next turn. It's very important to get everyone back to full HP prior to this happening. .jpg) .jpg) Poison Breath, as the name might suggest, will Poison the entire party as well as hit them all for 1500-2000 HP of damage. Considering how nobody has more than 3,000 HP max at this point and Poison is no frikkin' joke in this Final Fantasy game, Poison Breath can be quite an issue. Well, if it weren't for one thing... .jpg) Al Bhed Potions also heal poisoning and top off 1,000 HP of the potential 2,000 that could be lost. So did people that found this battle hard just... never look at the Al Bhed Potions the game literally throws dozens at a time at you? They literally give you ten of 'em right out the gate back in the very beginning of Sanubia Desert with a message nearly saying “Yo status effects are hosed dawg! Use these in case of danger!” .jpg) That's about all there is to be said about Evrae. Once we're in close range, Lulu ought to be swapped out in favor of the Auron doing some heavy lifting strikes for a good 2,000 each turn (and Auron Hasted by Tidus of course.) .jpg) .jpg) It's just a matter of having Wakka, Tidus, and Auron beat the poo poo out of the thing and healing with Al Bhed Potions all the way down for the rest of our clowning of the guardian of Bevelle. Who even needs Yuna for White Magic anymore? She's been replaced by science! .jpg) .jpg) And that's a wrap for the Wyrm of Bevelle. The red carpet had baby teeth. .jpg) [Hey! I see Bevelle!]Tune in next time for the most ridiculous wedding crashing in any RPG I've seen. It's great! And really dumb!    Video: Episode 71 Highlight Reel   Evrae Concept Art – No dong! No wyrm! Drakengard is an authority on this matter.
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The Dark Id posted:Tidus begins to wander out of the airship's bridge, but is greeted with a whole mess of motion blur and the ship shaking in turn. Were the other game cutscenes Square put out around this time so heavy on the motion blur effect? I mean... there's just The Bouncer prior to this. I'd check but... that would mean playing The Bouncer and eh... I think I'm good. I think we all know what you're LPing next! quote:
I've always interpreted this bit as Rikku making a joke, then turning around to see Cid's confusion and realizing that was EXACTLY what he had planned. That last part is just her thinking "GDI Dad". Also, nice reference on the image names.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:45
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Nobody uses Al Bhed potions because nobody uses Rikku to get access to Use. The fact that Tidus can also command the airship & actually contribute in battle convinces people that (the likely under-leveled) Rikku is superfluous.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:50
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I remembered the Al Bhed potions.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:52
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All I remember about The Bouncer is that it had some of the silliest looking character designs I've ever seen which is quite an accomplishment in and of itself. Also Airships 1, Dragons/Wyrms something like 9000. FFX has a ways to go before it surpasses Fours Genocide For Great Justice.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:55
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I think ideally you're supposed to be in close, then pull back whenever Evrae inhales to do a poison gas attack, recharge while the ship unleashes its salvos, then get in close again. But I had entirely too much fun with getting in close and pulling back as a mechanic when I played this.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:01
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Also Airships 1, Dragons/Wyrms something like 9000. FFX has a ways to go before it surpasses Fours Genocide For Great Justice. To be fair Caim also probably matched her tally. And yet people love him while hating on Four.
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Nov 4, 2015 21:01
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No dong, no Grahf to wax Shakespearean to buff it, it really isn't a wyrm by any definition. I miss Grahf. 
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oldskool posted:Nobody uses Al Bhed potions because nobody uses Rikku to get access to Use. The fact that Tidus can also command the airship & actually contribute in battle convinces people that (the likely under-leveled) Rikku is superfluous. rikku with Use is comically overpowered from the moment you get her near up until the endgame. also, the evrae fight is pretty cool. dumb as hell, but fun.
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