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Yeah, pay2win owns. Changing my vote. Edit: ah poo poo, posted too soon didn't see the poll. So Id! How did the Force Awakens compare to our hallowed masterpiece Final Fantasy X? Happy Landfill fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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So if your dog dies it just keeps chilling beside you until it's sent? Or do dogs only die when YOU die?
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Dec 18, 2015 19:49
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Mans posted:So if your dog dies it just keeps chilling beside you until it's sent? Or do dogs only die when YOU die? Dogs can't become unsent because all dogs go to heaven.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:00
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What the hell does Yojimbo even do with the gil?
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Dec 18, 2015 20:41
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I hope he just gambles it away. That'd be Cavia levels of troll.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:42
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Adam Vegas posted:What the hell does Yojimbo even do with the gil? Finest quality dog chow.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:45
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ApplesandOranges posted:Finest quality dog chow. "Just need 'nough to feed my dog. Say, oh... 250,000 Gil."
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Dec 18, 2015 20:59
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Adam Vegas posted:What the hell does Yojimbo even do with the gil? He pays Child Support to Shiva. They are Bahamut's Parents.
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Dec 18, 2015 21:11
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Adam Vegas posted:What the hell does Yojimbo even do with the gil? Pays off his debt to the Al Bhed mob. Not much of a choice if he wants his kneecaps to remain unsent.
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Dec 18, 2015 21:54
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hahah, you guys. yojimbo is a ghost. what's he even doing with the money?! Hahaha
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Dec 18, 2015 21:57
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Mzbundifund posted:What happens if you attack Yojimbo's dog during that fight? Or is the dog just part of Yojimbo and not an independent critter? As far as I can tell, it's a package deal. The dog is just there.
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Dec 18, 2015 22:09
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Adam Vegas posted:What the hell does Yojimbo even do with the gil? "I need One Million gil to auto-kill this boss." "WHAT?! I JUST GAVE YOU FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND! What the hell do you spend it on!?" "Bitch, my MMO addiction, Record Keeper relics and freemium games don't loving come cheap. Now do you want this super boss dead or not?"
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Dec 18, 2015 23:34
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Clearly, this fayth was stolen and put in a cave as a part of some sort of laundering scheme by the thief. The fayth collects the gil, the guy who put the police tape over it collects the money later.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:44
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Did Yojimbo charge before he was stolen? Did summoners have fundraisers for him? Maybe Belgemine was killed in an accident while getting ready for the bake sale.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:48
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It's obvious what he spends that gil on: throwing knives for his Kozuka attack. What, you didn't think the knives just came out of nowhere, did you? That would be crazy.
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:Did Yojimbo charge before he was stolen? Did summoners have fundraisers for him? Maybe Belgemine was killed in an accident while getting ready for the bake sale. I like to think this is why nobody bothered to reclaim Yojimbo. "He's gonna loving charge us!? Well, let him rot in that cave then! I'm gonna go grab the giant demon dragon instead."
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Dec 19, 2015 01:22
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The Dark Id posted:Vote here on your favorite name for an aeon I'm going to use like once ever again! There is one aspect of the summoned Yojimbo that makes it great in certain contexts. I rather trivially beat one of the superbosses at the arena using him.
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Dec 19, 2015 01:35
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McDragon posted:I like Daigoro. That fat little dude is good at backflips. You should be able to ride him around the Calm Lands. 
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Dec 19, 2015 02:55
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U.T. Raptor posted:Yuna's version of the Tamer dressphere in X-2 has him as her pet, so there's that Actually, the one from the Trainer dressphere is named "Kogoro." Note that "Dai" and "Ko" in Japanese mean "Big" and "Little", respectively. (No idea what, if anything, goro means.) Or so I've been led to believe, anyway.
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Dec 19, 2015 02:59
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W.T. Fits posted:Actually, the one from the Trainer dressphere is named "Kogoro." Note that "Dai" and "Ko" in Japanese mean "Big" and "Little", respectively. (No idea what, if anything, goro means.) Or so I've been led to believe, anyway. Looks like there was a series in Japan in the eighties called "Goro the Golden Dog" so it could be some kind of reference to that.
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Dec 19, 2015 07:52
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It's the onomatopoeia for a stomach growling, which is a good name for a greedy dog.
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Dec 19, 2015 09:50
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I love that such an inconsequential Aeon is, maybe excepting the old thread, the one with the most contested name vote. 
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Dec 19, 2015 12:03
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At least my suggestion matches the dogs name 
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Dec 19, 2015 12:09
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The poll is closed. Democracy has spoken. PayToWin is your new  In a related news story, Drakengard 3 is up on the Let's Play Archive if you missed that one and don't have SA Archives.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:41
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That is absolutely hilarious timing considering I just finished catching up on the series (including Nier but except 2, you all made it sound boring). I keep having to catch myself when I want to drop references to it because I'm the only one it's new to.  Thanks for getting me interested in the series in time for Automata!  Pay to win, huh? I wonder what a Yoko Taro mobile game would be like? 
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Dec 19, 2015 18:49
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Advertises in-app purchases that don't actually exist, but leaves you feeling like they're coming up any second now.
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AlphaKretin posted:That is absolutely hilarious timing considering I just finished catching up on the series (including Nier but except 2, you all made it sound boring). I keep having to catch myself when I want to drop references to it because I'm the only one it's new to. Converting your phone's desktop and replacing all your pictures with  e: Also all your music and Ring tones with I. Hear. A. Sound.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:59
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There is already one It's called 'Factory Reset'
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AlphaKretin posted:Pay to win, huh? I wonder what a Yoko Taro mobile game would be like? Probably a lot like this.
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AlphaKretin posted:I wonder what a Yoko Taro mobile game would be like? A rhythm game where you defeat demon lords, and having done so, can equip them as outfits for your character (provided you pay the microtransaction fee for each demon lord beyond the first one). I am not making this poo poo up, by the way.
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ultrafilter posted:Probably a lot like this. I would play this... provided it wasn't exactly like that.
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The Dark Id posted:The poll is closed. Democracy has spoken. PayToWin is your new I actually feel proud of that. I guess I am a bad person...
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W.T. Fits posted:A rhythm game where you defeat demon lords, and having done so, can equip them as outfits for your character (provided you pay the microtransaction fee for each demon lord beyond the first one). I've seen that game on the Google store before.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:31
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HR12345 posted:I've seen that game on the Google store before. Coming soon to Vita!
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Dec 20, 2015 07:07
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What is loving UP with him and rhythm games?
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Dec 20, 2015 18:21
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Speedball posted:What is loving UP with him and rhythm games? He has the power of music in his soul! Which wouldn't be a problem if he didn't have the soul of a master troll.
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Episode LXXXVI-2: Pay My Way.jpg) Democracy has spoken and the aeon formerly known as Yojimbo shall henceforth be referred to only as PayToWin. .jpg) With that out of the way, we're done with our dealings in the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth. However, before we gather our party and venture forth to the looming Mount Gagazet, perhaps we ought to take a moment to see why PayToWin is an apt name for our new summoned ally.  New Music: Battle Theme (FFX Remaster Version) (One of many absolutely garbage remixes! It's the random battle music you'll hear literally hundreds of times. Making it twice as bombastic is not an improvement!) .jpg) .jpg) Yuna's summoning calls forth immediately goes awry as a full moon and a cherry blossom tree from the non-existent Japan in Spira is called forth instead of an aeon. This seems like a waste of pyreflies. Are pyreflies a consumable energy source...? Yes, they're just fancy Mako Energy type earth juice like in Final Fantasy VII. .jpg) .jpg) More importantly, an aeon pooch is here to mark its territory immediately. Don't want any other rogue aeon dogs, like Ixion, getting the jump on it. .jpg) .jpg) Also .jpg)  “Please, clear us a path!”.jpg) So PayToWin is different from all other summons. Instead of having an attack, a unique elemental ability, and a handful of black magic spells, PayToWin instead has the option of... well Paying him or Dismissing his services. .jpg) The Pay option is just what it sounds like on paper. Despite the 200,000 just to get the Yojimbo fayth off its rear end and have its aeon help on Yuna's pilgrimage, it still demands on-site compensation like the scumbag contract worker he is. As such, PayToWin is a big money sink I'm pretty much never going to use again after this. .jpg) When Yuna pays PayToWin (henceforth referred to as PTW) we're not even given an option of what attack he'll use. Indeed, there are not even pay tiers like some shady battle Kickstarter. There is actually a complicated formula to PTW's abilities that is, of course, completely obfuscated in-game. We'll get to that in a minute. First, let's go over PayToWin's attacks. .jpg) .jpg) Dismissing or Paying 0 gil to PayToWin will piss him off causing him to ninja teleport away (his dog has to walk, you don't want to cross the aeon streams.) Dismissing PTW immediately/soon after summoning him or failing to pay him has negative effects on the aeon's future performance so it is ill-advised. .jpg) Paying the aeon any pocket change range cash above 1 gil will result in a disapproving head shake from PayToWin and a token effort of having his dog, .jpg) .jpg) PayToWin's second tier of attack is Kozuka, which will hit a single target for decent damage. Apparently, kozuka are small throwing knives that could be stored in the scabbard of larger swords. PayToWin just keeps them down his massive flamboyant sleeves to be extra anime. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) The third and technically forth level of PayToWin's possible attack is using his Wakizashi to deal a sizable amount of damage. This attack has two flavors. One will just strike a single target on the field, while the more potent version damages all enemies. This is the attack you'll find yourself going “goddammit you motherfucker, give me my money back!” .jpg) That's because the final part of PayToWin's arsenal, Zanmato, is the Pay to Win nuclear option of Final Fantasy X and the only reason you'd ever mess with this crummy money sink gamble of a summon. .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) I showed this off during the Yojimbo boss battle where it was an instant kill to the entire party dealing 9,999 damage. The thing about Zanmato is... .jpg) .jpg) .jpg) ...it's an instant kill to almost EVERYTHING in the entire game. Yes, this includes bosses. Yes, this includes superbosses. Yes, this even includes that bullshit Penance superboss from the International/PAL/HD Remaster. With the exception of one plot critical, multi-form boss (it can still instant kill the final form of said boss), one weird cinematic boss, and the final proper boss of Final Fantasy X – PayToWin lives up to its name of being able to score an instant victory given the right amount of gil... and favorable RNG Gods' machinations. .jpg) Now then, we should probably discuss the actual factors involved in PayToWin's money gamble. Or rather, I'm just going to copy and paste an entry from the Final Fantasy Wiki because PFFT! Talk about a bunch of obtuse bullshit you'd only ever find the mechanics behind by purchasing an expensive guide with information revealed directly from the developers or reading a FAQ that copied out of said guide. Final Fantasy Wiki on Yojimbo's Motivation Formula posted:
.jpg) TLDR: Throw a bunch of money at Yojimbo and hope for the best if you don't want to deal with anything in the game. Reload if it doesn't work out. Leave Yojimbo to rot in a broom closet otherwise. In any case, that's it for the Cavern of the Stolen Fayth and the final side area of the Calm Lands. .jpg) And indeed the final optional area until we hit the end game. It's back to the one trail death march to the ruins of Zanarkand. .jpg) We return to where we fought Defender X, who you've probably already forgotten about at this point. Crossing the bridge we passed in favor of the gorge bottom and the conclusion of Lulu's remaining back story, we're treated with one final cutscene to cap off The Calm Lands. .jpg) .jpg)  ”We were a thing now, so it was alright to stare and take notice. At least Kimahri stopped giving me the evil eye about it. In fact he gave kind of a weird sorta grin if he ever saw me watching Yuna. Not sure what that was all about...”.jpg) .jpg) Oh... if that were only true... Final Fantasy X's end game is my Zanarkand. This awful inevitable thing on the horizon I've got to do that looms every closer...  .jpg) Regardless of that grim reminder, that takes care of The Calm Lands. Only one final area remains on the pilgrimage before we reach Zanarkand and hit the present day point of the narrative. That'll be weird! It's only taken over three years to get there...    Video: Episode 86-2 Highlight Reel The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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That mechanic is so ridiculously complex. Also I forgot how much of an rear end in a top hat he is. He actively rummages through your purse, to compare his salary to your total funds. Imagine if you paid a construction worker and get a reply like: "Seriously? I can see that you have way more than that on your bank account. Last month you spent more than that on video games. gently caress you, I wont move for a few hours. Maybe my dog works a bit for you." Also that highlight reel is private. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dec 20, 2015 22:00
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I'm one of probably tons and tons of people who have never actually gotten Zamnato in their own runs. I'm given to understand that the best way to go about it is to summon him constantly and always pay him 1024 gil or more to build up his compatibility over time, but I always seem to stop bothering after a while. Particularly because the final two aeons are in a whole different league of strength compared to Yojimbo and the rest anyway, without forcing you to pay them. Sure, they don't have Zanmato, but they really don't even need it.
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The actual way you do it is by grinding a lot of money, save before a cheeseworthy enounter and then savescum until it happens.
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