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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
:ghost::spooky:Welcome to the Official 2015 October Horror Movie Challenge!:spooky::ghost:







What Is The Challenge?

Traditionally, it is to watch 31 Horror or Halloween-related movies by the end of October.

However, we aren't all lucky enough to actually accomplish this. That's fine. The point is to challenge ourselves in some way to celebrate one of the most fun holidays we have with the movies we love. Maybe you're terrified of werewolves, and you want to watch all the werewolf movies you've never seen because you're too scared. Great. Maybe you want to watch only movies you've never seen. Fantastic. Maybe you're busy, and you can only watch 13 new movies. That's fine too.

How Do I Use This Thread?

This thread is to document progress in the challenge, provide reviews for what you've watched so far, get recommendations for movies, and to allow discussion. If it's Halloween or Horror Movie related, it is appropriate.

What Happens if I Fail the Challenge?

You are officially banned. No, not really. There's no consequence. Just have fun watching movies.

What Should I Watch?
Bravo's 100 Scariest Movie Moments
Timeout's 100 Best Horror Movies
Rotten Tomatoes 100 Best Horror Movies
100 Best B-Movies of All Time
100 Best Horror Movies of the 80s

I'm Afraid To Watch Movies Alone!
The wonderful Lurdiak has a thread just for you! They're streaming movies live so you can have someone to watch with. Last year was awesome thanks to their thread.
Scream Stream

What Else Should I Know?

Keep an eye on the first page of this thread. The first few posts will have an ongoing list of movies, television schedules, events, and resources as I find them.

I Have An Idea!

You are more than welcome to post it in the thread or PM me.

Is There A Section With Links?
Scream Stream
October Horror Movie Discussion
Horror Megathread (This thread is over 900 pages and has been around since 2008.)
Psychological Horror/Thriller/Sci-fi Horror thread
80sHorror.net

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Oct 3, 2015

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
:siren:UPDATED OCT. 3rd:siren:

In THEATERS
Crimson Peak
Green Inferno
The Visit


On NETFLIX (US Region)

A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2
The Addams Family
American Psycho
The American Scream
The Awakening
The Babadook
The Blair Witch Project
Birth of the Living Dead
The 'Burbs
Carrie (remake)
Creep
Day of the Dead
Dead Snow
The Dead Zone
FIDO
The Fly (original)
Grabbers
Hellraiser (series)
Henry: Portrait of A Serial Killer
Housebound
Horns
The House of the Devil
Ju-On: The Grudge
Jug Face
The Vampire's Coffin
The Monster Squad
Let The Right One In
Maniac (remake)
Night of the Living Dead
The Nightmare
Never Sleep Again
Nightbreed
Nightmares in Red White and Blue
Nosferatu
Oculus
The Omen
Pontypool
Ravenous
Re-Animator
Rosemary's Baby
The Sacrament
Scream
Silence of the Lambs
The Sixth Sense
Sleepy Hollow
Tales from the Darkside: The Movie
Teeth
Tucker and Dale Vs. Evil
Virgin Witch
V/H/S (series)
We Are What We Are
Wes Craven's New Nightmare
Wolfcop

American Horror Story


On PRIME

Black Sunday
Cropsey
Fido
Grave Encounters
Halloween (remake)
House on Haunted Hill
Ju-On: The Grudge
Killer Klowns From Outer Space
Night of the Living Dead
Tusk
The Woman In Black
You're Next

Are You Afraid of the Dark?
Every Nickelodeon Nicktoons Halloween Special (embrace your inner 90's child, drat it!)

Movies on HULU PLUS

Antichrist
Blair Witch Project
The Blob
Cronos
Demons
Diabolique
Eraserhead
Eyes Without A Face
Ginger Snaps
Godzilla, King of the Monsters
House
House of the Devil
Inferno
The Innkeepers
Kuroneko
Kwaidan
Maniac Cop
Onibaba
Santa Sangre
Scanners
The Toxic Avenger
Triangle
Tucker & Dale Vs. Evil
Vampyr


I Can't Afford Streaming
Lurdiak's Scream Stream
80sHorror.net Youtube Channel
A History of Horror with Mark Gatiss
Mystery Science Theater 3000
FEAR HAUS - Short horror indie films from international film-makers

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Oct 3, 2015

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Scream Queens
Tuesdays @ 9/8c on FOX
TVIV Thread


American Horror Story: Hotel
Wednesdays @10/9c on FX (Starts October 7th)
TVIV Thread


MARATHONS
SyFy Channel's 8th Annual 31 Days of Halloween
Turner Classic Movies Fridays of Horror
AMC FearFest 2015 (technically starts October 18th, but will be showing horror movies early)
The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror Marathon on FXX (Oct. 25-31)
IFC Halloween Marathon (October 31st)
ABC Family's 13 Nights of Halloween
Disney Channel's Monstober

Other resources:
Halloween Movies on TV

Franchescanado fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 3, 2015

Several Goblins
Jul 30, 2006

"What the hell do they mean? Beefcake?"


I'm excited for this. I've participated before and usually stall out due to work. I'll be working overnights this month with a lot of downtime, so I'll have plenty of nights to sneak some movies in. My local theater is doing horror double/triple features and my girlfriend and some friends will be doing the challenge with me.

It's gonna be a spooky month. :spooky:

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.
Scream/Shout Factory TV offers a few free streaming titles!

http://www.shoutfactorytv.com

cthulusnewzulubbq fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Oct 2, 2015

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
Boom, I'm in. Last year I managed 37, and this year I'm gonna break 40. In my universe there's a harder caveat...they all have to be films I've not seen to count towards the number. A few hours ago I pulled out of the station with my first film of the month...

1. The Sentinel (1977) Directed by Michael Winner:

Alison is a successful New York television model. However, she's got some major issues at heart, not the least of which is that she isn't ready to settle down with her lawyer boyfriend Michael. So she finds herself moving into an old brownstone after her father (who caused her a suicide attempt) dies. There she starts noticing odd things--noises in the night, she has weird neighbors such as the jolly old man that brings her to his cat's birthday party, or the aggressive downstairs lesbians that seem to forget boundaries easily. Then she starts having fainting spells and having the reality around her falter and be questioned. What is going on for Alison, and is their any way to escape this nightmare?

I've been meaning to get around to watching this film for a long long time, but I've been lazy. Today at the start of the challenge seemed perfect. I really enjoyed this film, and I'm surprised it's so under-known. It has a huge cast, with at least 80% of the names being well known still, including some veterans like Eli Wallach or Burgess Meredith, and names that would become much better known like Jeff Goldblum and Christopher Walken. It also has a very crazy, constantly escalating story with some really out there special effects for the mid 70s. Probably the most damning bit is the sound design. The dialogue is filled to the brim with ADR, sounding like they took a cue from Italian filmmakers, and the score is 100% the late seventies TV movie style where there's a strong overreliance on woodwinds, whether or not its a wise choice. The camera work is on point meanwhile, with a kinetic style predating the "MTV Editing" craze by over a decade, with lots of cuts, few static shots, and many POV views from nothing, creating a very large sense of dread and unease throughout. Michael Winner, most known for his Death Wish series really does an outstanding job here, and it's a film worth looking at.

:spooky: :spooky: :spooky: :spooky:/Five. A nice and good way to start the ride off for me.

SomeJazzyRat
Nov 2, 2012

Hmmm...
Me, I'm a young'n. 21 years, grew up in an age where scary movies were the occasional weird one offs (Dreamcatcher), torture porn(Saw), and a series of increasingly terrible parody films (gently caress you Friedberg and Seltzer). Simply put, I was born just as the age of great horror had died in the 90's, resurged as a toddler, lumbered along that into adolescence, and came of age as torture porn turned to ghost and demons. Not to say that there weren't any great films released during this time, but this isn't about a great horror films. This is about The period for horror in the mainstream. And by horror, I mean the perennial classic subgenre that defined it for decades. That means the Slasher, an entire industry that boomed and bust before I was born. Not that I mean all of this so literally of course, but exaggerations tell better stories.

So, in an attempt to better learn my heritage, I will use this month to attempt to watch every major Slasher in the major slasher franchises, starting from Texas Chainsaw Massacre to Freddy Vs. Jason and everything in between. All of films that had acted as defining, inciting moments or defined the zeitgeist of horror. As is, I have limited this list to Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, and Scream. Not that I think Scream should be held up in such regard among the rest (nor that it shouldn't). However it's impact to it's contemporaries, and even the sequels to it's predecessors, is such that a primer on Slashers up into the 2000s would be incomplete without it listed. In addition, it acts as a nice follow up New Nightmare that it should make a fun through line. (Also own a cheap collection of all four and wanted an excuse to finally watch them) Limiting it to these franchises also leaves out important and influential predecessors like Bad Ronald or Black Christmas. Unfortunately, I am but a man and have important things to do like Jobs and Taxes. Psycho is also left out despite being incredibly influential and incredibly fantastic, also a franchise of increasingly terribleness. That said, I have already seen Psycho, the one that matters, and the rest don't even register on the same scale of even TCM: The Next Generation (which is the baseline of 'Notable').

By the way, Here's the list.

For the sake of disclosure, this is not the first time I attempted this. Last Halloween, I tried to do this casually for the sake of myself rather than internet fame, and quickly fell off schedule after being several days late on Friday the 13th part 3. Now that it has come time again, I figured being somewhat obligated to write up at least a paragraph on this experiment might help my follow through. So going into this, I've already seen TCM 1 and 2, Halloween 1 and 2, and Friday the 13th 1-3. Not that I'm skipping any of them, I'm going to rewatch them to capture the context and to help me lay out some thoughts. So, with that in mind, I have 33 films to watch, already down one, and have 31 days to get through the rest. So with that, let's start at the top with:

Texas Chainsaw Massacre - October 1st, 1974


Just wanted to include this bit of quality fan art

So, not sure what there is to say that hasn't been said by everyone to the high class film historians up to low brow gore hounds. It is perhaps the greatest Horror-with-a-capital-H films of all time. It's tense, it has fantastic momentum, and it's grimy as all get out. Infamously suggested to be adjacent to a true story, it's lo-fi and low budget and the results are astronomical. It gets a lot of mileage just panning the camera just a bit to give it professional dynamism, or putting some dried grass in the foreground in front of the characters to give it an amateur 'in the moment' realism. The grit, the camera work, the ruralism, the authentic props gives the imagery a heft and 'throw away' intentionality. It makes the scenes look real. It gives the authenticity to some guy digging up a grave yard, stealing the bodies, using them to make furniture, masks, food, and revving up a chainsaw and just going to town on another terrified human being.

And it isn't just the visuals it gets by with, but also by the history created by the few characters it has. Like the cannibalistic family the film makes subject. They talk to each other about their their history and roles hinted in the brief glimpses of dialog and body language. And with that familiarity amongst themselves comes familiarity with the situation at hand. Nothing that happens in the film seems abnormal among them, people come along, get caught, and made into BBQ in the old Texas fashion. This is all unsaid with proprietors insisting their hospitality, all the mysterious cars left covered up in the yard, the abnormal animals calls coming from around the doorway. Slam. The that the bodies fall, get chopped up and loaded into the ice box. To these people, there's no reason for anyone to get away alive. And that's what the film shows us, there's no reason Sally, or anyone lived or died. They faced an unknown and sudden force hellbent against them. Except for Franklin, there wasn't any realistic chance he could've survived any encounter. The fact that Sally survived bloodied and hysterical was sheer luck, coincidence, and a little bit of safety and smarts.

Another thing that helped was that these brief moments of stupidity are exactly that, brief and momentous. It's small little decisions that were exploited by the evil that lurks around them. For example, when 'Hot Friend' Kirk is banging on the door of the unfamiliar home, only for it to open unexpectedly. And with a lot of apprehension, he pleads to anyone only to hear an animal call around the corner. Unaware of what to expect, he makes a very reluctant decision, the evil exploits it, and his fate is sealed. Just like a normal day. It's unexpected, human, and fallible. And thus, at the climatic dinner scene, when the family decided to turn what should have been a quick murder into a grandiose celebration, Sally similarly uses the moment to exploit the confusion and escape.

The one thing this film is exemplary of is the unexpected moment. Such as the opening where flashes of light give way to the rotting corpse posed on a grave marker. Or the hitchhiker setting the photo alight to gain opportunity to cut into Franklin. Or when Leatherface comes around the corner to claim his first victim. His introduction acts as a reverse Deus Ex Machina, an unexpected presence brought to life to complicate and horrify. And similarily to Sally exploiting the moment of confusion, our antagonists fall victim to their own tricks as a cattle truck apparates. As it comes it hits and ends the life of the hitchhiker, simplifying the climax giving the heroine a brief moment of solace for our heroine. And much like the sudden beginning, in the middle Leatherface's moment of frenzied frustration and failure, the movie suddenly ends, and cuts to credits.

One more aspect I'd like to reflect on is how the film presents itself as a reflection of Ed Gein. The infamous Grave Digging, Necro-fetishizing, body-part-furniture fashioner, 'transvestite', murderous cannibal (though cannibalism and necrophilia was denied by Gein and remained unconfirmed) whom a notable number of films were based on, Psycho and Silence of the Lambs included. Going in, it's easy to assume that all of these aspects could be a 1:1 translation to Leatherface. Obviously he is the one chopping bodies and wearing the faces. But watching the film this notion is denied as the family hierarchy is explained. Leatherface is merely the butcher who has a penchant of playing roles with different faces, litterally. This is evident during the dinner scene where he wears a face plastered with bad makeup. Whether or not this is because Leatherface is attempting to earnestly experience the female body or meerly trying to play the role of mother in a twisted reflection of a functioning family is left uncertain. Meanwhile the burnout Hitchhiker is the one robbing graves, presumably in twisted forms of artistic self reflection. It's left uncertain who it is who makes the skin and bone furniture, but presumably due to his familiarity with grave robbery and general handywork, the Hitchhiker is the likely subject. And with that we're left with the Proprietor who acts as cook, making his offer of BBQ retroactively revolting and darkly humorous, and most horrifying the active patriarch of the disturbing family. Encouraging his two severely ill-adjusted sons to commit heinous acts to support their horrifying lifestyle. A lifestyle supported and suggested to have been started by grotesquely withered and elderly grandpa.

There's more I'd like to say, especially with such a film as this. However, it was 1:00 AM as I started writing this, and as I finish I am approaching 3:00 AM, so I remain satisfied that I hit the broadstroaks. That said, with how much there is to talk about, it makes it hard to consider it anything but my favorite horror film. However, tomorrow I intend to write about the only film to match it in low budget expertise and high end filmmaking. Tomorrow...

:spooky:Halloween:spooky:

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
loving FINALLY. I live the rest of the year just to get to October. If I didn't limit myself to October I'd watch all my favorite horror movies like once a month and burn out on them within a year.

I started early last night because I realized A Nightmare on Elm Street was disappearing from Netflix in the morning and it felt right to start with Craven this year.

One thing about NoES that I always tend to forget is how much of a mind-gently caress that ending is. Nancy appears to come to some sort of realization that the entire film has been a dream, and when she turns her back on Freddy and walks out the dream is over. But wait, no of course its not over , we're apparently still in the dream? So this entire movie never happened? Are Nancy's friends even real? If Freddie kills them all after trapping them in the car, are they all dead or is this just Nancy's dream?

Of course the answer is who gives a poo poo. Still, for the first film in the franchise this ending is just as bizarre as any that would come later. I suppose this kind of thing was a general trend in horror at the time, probably starting with Carrie, and then Friday the 13th. All dreamlike endings that we can't necessarily take at face value.

I'm not going to bother to rate the movies I watch because they're all mostly classics that are at least 4/5 if not 5/5

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


The Scream Stream thread is up!

What better way to supplement your movie intake than by tuning in and watching some horror movies with some fellow goons?

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Halloween is the only good holiday.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Halloween is the only good holiday.

Thanksgiving has good food, and if you live in a civilized country, it's also in October, the best month. It's like, you have a nice hearty meal amongst the falling leaves to celebrate the changing season and harvest, and then you get to feast on the dessert of horror movies and candy.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Halloween is the only good holiday.

for a second i was like "there's gotta be one other good one" but yeah i'm stumped.

my other favorites are all unofficial, like 24 hour Boston Sci-Fi Marathon day, or Oscar Drinking Game night.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Ok, best non-food holiday.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Lurdiak posted:

The Scream Stream thread is up!

What better way to supplement your movie intake than by tuning in and watching some horror movies with some fellow goons?

Now in the OP as well!

Several Goblins
Jul 30, 2006

"What the hell do they mean? Beefcake?"




1. The Fan (1982) 8.5/10

This movie was interesting. The story itself isn't anything new or different, but the slow-burn execution is pretty intense. The German New Wave soundtrack, the pacing and the stilted acting come together to be something unsettling and bizarre. The movie feels wrong and awkward and you know that there's really only one direction it can take. The way it takes that direction, however, is pretty insane. You can pretty much predict *what* will happen from moment to moment, but *how* it will happen continued to catch me off guard. I'd recommend it.

Several Goblins fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Oct 11, 2015

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Just wanted to say, in 2012 I tried playing a different halloween-themed video game every day. I barely made it, but it was frustrating having to give up on completing so many of them as it went on, since so many modern video games have something like 20 hours of gameplay as a minimum. This challenge is a much better idea.

E:

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Oct 1, 2015

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
No one has actually seen the end of the Friday the 13th game on NES. That screen shot is a photoshopped fake.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Franchescanado posted:

No one has actually seen the end of the Friday the 13th game on NES. That screen shot is a photoshopped fake.

Bow before me, as I am the chosen one.

Watrick
Mar 15, 2007

C:enter:###
This is going going to be fun! Everyday is Halloween, but there is just something special about October. I'm doing a 100 movie challenge, and because of that I'm not aiming to do everyday in October. I started last night with the following two:

1/100 - Hallowen (1978). I don't feel like I need to go into an in depth review of this. I consider this movie to really jump start the slasher genre. It was out two years before Friday the 13th and three before My Bloody Valentine. There is just something about this movie that is timeless. You can practically smell fall when you watch it. Yeah, Everyday is Halloween.

2/100 - Eko Eko Azarak: Wizard of Darkness (1995). A Japanese horror flick based on a manga can be a good time, right? Yep. It can.

In a way, I'd most closely relate this to Suspiria/Inferno in terms of its theme. A bunch of people are dying around town and a few students find that the spots where they die form a pentagram. A transfer student shows up at said school and reveals that she is a witch. It turns out that there are devil worshipers at the school trying to invoke Satan, and she tried to protect and save the students from being sacrificed in the name of Our Dark Lord, Lucifer.

While I like this movie, it had some problems dragging it down. There were some scenes that were not necessary. It shows a teacher feeling up students, and an excessively long lesbian tryst between a student and her teacher. I read somewhere that they threw in the lesbian stuff to help sell more tickets. It just felt forced and out of place. Other that that the gore was decent, the CG when used looks surprisingly really good (even by today's standards), and I liked the lead. All in all: Hail Satan!

Jigoku
Apr 5, 2009

Reposted from the wrong thread.

Week 1: Travel

1. Unaware - Sept. 27
Found Footage / Aliens
Basically an alien version of Paranormal Activity where nothing happens until halfway in and what happens isn't interesting. Ultimately, Alien Abduction, Skinwalker Ranch, Area 51, and even Unidentified are good in comparison. Willow Creek has more going on. 1/10

2. Vinyan - Sept. 28
Thailand / Bleak as gently caress / Human Trafficking
This is an extremely bleak film about a couple trying to find their lost, presumably dead child in Thailand. It's unrelenting and excellent, but I'm going to put this up there with Irreversible or Martyrs as something you need to be in a certain mindset to watch. 8.5/10

3. Borderland (amazon) - Sept. 29
Mexican Death Cult/ Sean Astin is in this
This was much better than I was expecting, which bumps it up to "okay." It's got a decent aesthetic. It's downright brutal at times. But the Eli Roth-style Mid-2000's white people main characters and Mexican villains ruin this film for me. It would have been better if you switched the A and B plots, in my opinion. 4/10

4. Calvaire - Sept. 30
Deseperation / Lonliness / Creepy Villagers
This is basically the French hick villager version of Misery, except it's about this young (untalented) singer who does gigs at old folk's homes. His van breaks down at night and he ends up at an inn...and weird, disgusting, sometimes bizarrely creepy / funny poo poo happens. This film is sad and bleak as all gently caress when you think about it, but the characters bring out this unnerving, yet manic and lively energy to the film until...poo poo gets real. As you can tell, I liked this one quite a bit. This turned out to be my second Fabrice Du Welz film (Vinyan) in 3 days. 8/10

Jigoku fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Oct 1, 2015

Topper Harley
Jul 6, 2005
You have the whitest white part of the eyes I've ever seen. Do you floss?
1. The Last House on the Left (1972)

When I was a teenager, my mom and I happened upon a tent sale at our local video store and picked up a few VHS tapes of movies we'd never seen before. One of them, The Last House on the Left, had a sunburst featured prominently on the cover that said it was directed by Wes Craven of Nightmare on Elm Street fame. "Hot drat!" we said in unison. "This will be great!" My friends, it was not great. Watching The Last House on the Left with your mom and dad is not great.

Today was my third viewing of the movie, and while I cannot say I love this movie, it certainly accomplishes what it sets out to do (namely, be unpleasant and make a statement about revenge). I've since come to really appreciate the dingy, dirty style of this movie (and many of the other movies that were included in the Video Nasty list in the early 80s), but the movie itself has so many broad, cartoonish elements that don't work for me in the context of things like "brutal rape" and "finding out your child was murdered".

2. The Hive (2015)

A crappy, over-explaining, sappy knock off of Memento (which I also did not like). The sound design is obnoxiously loud-quiet-loud-quiet-repeat, which I suspect was to help the audience stay awake.

3. Scream (1996)

This was the first R-rated movie I saw in the theater.

4. Scream 2 (1997)

Aliens is not better than Alien, but Scream 2 might be better than Scream.

5. The Hills Have Eyes (1977)

I don't understand the appeal of this movie. In fact, based on this and Last House on the Left it's a miracle that Wes Craven made it out of the porno game.

6. The Hills Have Eyes Part II (1984)

Not good.

Topper Harley fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Oct 2, 2015

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



I had fun with this last year filling in a bunch of gaps in my film viewing and saw a lot of classics and foreign films. I'm going to repeat myself with a rule that I will only watch horror films that I have not seen, though having run through so many classics that I hadn't seen last year I think I'm going to be watching a lot worse films this time around.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Halloween is the only good holiday.

Dr. Hurt
Oct 23, 2010

Basebf555 posted:


One thing about NoES that I always tend to forget is how much of a mind-gently caress that ending is. Nancy appears to come to some sort of realization that the entire film has been a dream, and when she turns her back on Freddy and walks out the dream is over. But wait, no of course its not over , we're apparently still in the dream? So this entire movie never happened? Are Nancy's friends even real? If Freddie kills them all after trapping them in the car, are they all dead or is this just Nancy's dream?

Of course the answer is who gives a poo poo. Still, for the first film in the franchise this ending is just as bizarre as any that would come later. I suppose this kind of thing was a general trend in horror at the time, probably starting with Carrie, and then Friday the 13th. All dreamlike endings that we can't necessarily take at face value.

I'm not going to bother to rate the movies I watch because they're all mostly classics that are at least 4/5 if not 5/5

I started the same way. It would be off not to pay tribute to Craven this year. I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street in forever and I think the ending actually weakens the rest of the film. There's no dramatic conclusion. There's no real end. It feels like someone described an extremely interesting dream and just forgot how the ending was supposed to go. Maybe that's what they were going for but it just didn't land with me.

Tonight I'll start officially with my first one but I am just so glad it's actually October.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Dr. Hurt posted:

I started the same way. It would be off not to pay tribute to Craven this year. I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street in forever and I think the ending actually weakens the rest of the film. There's no dramatic conclusion. There's no real end. It feels like someone described an extremely interesting dream and just forgot how the ending was supposed to go. Maybe that's what they were going for but it just didn't land with me.

Tonight I'll start officially with my first one but I am just so glad it's actually October.

i'm watching Shocker right now, which is way better than i remember.

Watrick
Mar 15, 2007

C:enter:###

Dr. Hurt posted:

I started the same way. It would be off not to pay tribute to Craven this year. I haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street in forever and I think the ending actually weakens the rest of the film. There's no dramatic conclusion. There's no real end. It feels like someone described an extremely interesting dream and just forgot how the ending was supposed to go. Maybe that's what they were going for but it just didn't land with me.

Tonight I'll start officially with my first one but I am just so glad it's actually October.

Craven had intended it to end with everything being Nancy's dream. None of it happened. The ending we got wasn't supposed to be an "end." It was left open for more.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Watrick posted:

Craven had intended it to end with everything being Nancy's dream. None of it happened. The ending we got wasn't supposed to be an "end." It was left open for more.

Craven intended a "happy" ending with Nancy getting in a car with her friends and them smiling and waving, leaving the viewer to wonder why everything was so cut-and-dried and odd. The guy footing the bill wanted a "Big Scary Ending!" with one more death and a Freddy Car!, because cocaine and other drugs (I assume). Craven got to keep his weird tone, but had to make it more obvious and had gone on record to say he hated the dummy in the window scare and the car.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Franchescanado posted:

Craven intended a "happy" ending with Nancy getting in a car with her friends and them smiling and waving, leaving the viewer to wonder why everything was so cut-and-dried and odd. The guy footing the bill wanted a "Big Scary Ending!" with one more death and a Freddy Car!, because cocaine and other drugs (I assume). Craven got to keep his weird tone, but had to make it more obvious and had gone on record to say he hated the dummy in the window scare and the car.

i love the ending we got, but an alternate just as creepy ending could've been to have the kids drive off like nothing's wrong, but still do the eerie slo-mo pan to the little girls doing the "1, 2, Freddy's coming for you" song

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I think I would have liked it if the top of the car was red and green, and it was just left up to the audience to notice that things were definitely not right here. Let the kids drive off without realizing the danger they're in.

Edit: Wow that was a weird coincidence! I thought of it first, I swear!

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i love the ending we got, but an alternate just as creepy ending could've been to have the kids drive off like nothing's wrong, but still do the eerie slo-mo pan to the little girls doing the "1, 2, Freddy's coming for you" song

That's basically what he wanted, as far as I know.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Franchescanado posted:

That's basically what he wanted, as far as I know.

one of my favorite parts of Never Sleep Again is his undisguised contempt for a lot of the decisions made with the franchise.

another favorite part is him going "oh, Renny Harlin? yeah, that dude gets it."

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.
1. The Horror of Party Beach (1964) 3.5/5
2. Ghoulies 2 (1988) 2/5
3. The Clown Murders (1976) 3/5
4. Sundown (1989) 2.5/5
5. The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) 4.5/5
6. At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul (1963) 5/5
7. Sledgehammer (1983) 3/5
8. Blue Sunshine (1977) 4/5
9. A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 (1989) 3/5
10. Rock N' Roll Nightmare (1987) 3.5/5

11. Intercessor: Another Rock N' Roll Nightmare (2005) 2/5

The official sequel to Rock N' Roll Nightmare. An aging Jon Mikl Thor in a black duster and shades. Folks in bad Halloween costumes giving some truly awful performances. Alternatingly amusing and intensely aggravating. Luckily, I have a soft spot for reprehensible garbage.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

one of my favorite parts of Never Sleep Again is his undisguised contempt for a lot of the decisions made with the franchise.

another favorite part is him going "oh, Renny Harlin? yeah, that dude gets it."

Yeah I watched this a couple weeks ago and favorite parts were definitely the stuff about two and also everything to do with Renny.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Hat Thoughts posted:

Yeah I watched this a couple weeks ago and favorite parts were definitely the stuff about two and also everything to do with Renny.

movie absolutely gave me a new appreciation for Part IV. i love how genuinely grateful Renny seems for that franchise making his career.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
I love how everyone talks about him like he's this mountain man who on hustle alone pushed Bob Shaye into submission

Dr. Hurt
Oct 23, 2010

cthulusnewzulubbq posted:

5. The Abominable Dr. Phibes (1971) 4.5/5

Are you planning on watching Dr Phibes Rides Again?

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Hat Thoughts posted:

I love how everyone talks about him like he's this mountain man who on hustle alone pushed Bob Shaye into submission

everybody getting in their Renny Harlin impression at some point is just too loving funny

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.

Dr. Hurt posted:

Are you planning on watching Dr Phibes Rides Again?

I am!

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice


Just finished watching Blood Mania (1970), which had more substance than I was expecting. It was kind of a Poe-styled story about murder, guilt, blackmail, and familial tensions, but channeled through a '70s sexploitation flick. One of the characters made his entrance with the lines "Gee, this is some pad. I dig it." Lots of flanged funk guitar on the soundtrack. Some nice kinetic camera-work for the violent scenes, but with a British sort of distance from the characters in others. Kind of an abrupt ending, but with a memorable image thrown in to cap it. Not that great, but while it was unbalanced with rolling from one mood into a notably different one, it had some interesting material obscured by the goofiness. 6/10.

Also, IMDb says the Belgian title was Pornomania.

Darthemed fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Oct 1, 2015

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Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty
It's not quite as good as the first, but it's still pretty great. I also suggest Theater of Blood, to hit the bizarre revenge comedy Vincent Price trifecta..

You guys will have to excuse me, I had arm surgery today, so I can't be long-winded reporting in for the next few days.

EDIT: my post was about Phibes rises again

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