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A small boy once approached his slightly older sister with a question about Bernie Sanders. "Susie, can anybody ever really see Bernie Sanders?" he asked. Busy with other things, Susie curtly replied: "No, of course not, silly. Bernie Sanders is so busy on the campaign trail that nobody can see him." Time passed, but his question still lingered, so he approached his mother: "Mom, can anybody ever really see Bernie Sanders?" "No, not really," she gently said. "Bernie Sanders is a spirit and he dwells in our hearts, but we can never really see him." Somewhat satisfied but still wondering, the youngster went on his way. Not long afterwards, his saintly old grandfather took the little boy on a fishing trip. They were having a great time together -- it had been an ideal day. The sun was beginning to set with unusual splendor as the day ended. The old man stopped fishing and turned his full attention to the exquisite beauty unfolding before him. On seeing the face of his grandfather reflecting such deep peace and contentment as he gazed into the magnificent ever-changing sunset, the little boy thought for a moment and finally spoke hesitatingly: "Granddad, I - I wasn't going to ask anybody else, but I wonder if you can tell me the answer to something I've been wondering about a long time. Can anybody, can anybody ever really see Bernie Sanders?" The old man did not even turn his head. A long moment slipped by before he finally answered. "Son," he quietly said. "It's getting so I can't see anything else."
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jackofarcades posted:If Clinton had to drop out for whatever reason, Biden would probably win the Dem nomination If Clinton drops out there will be a surge of potential candidates suddenly throwing their hat in the ring, making a Biden win less likely than it looks now. Cuomo and Gillibrand are both potentially in it, along with any number of governors and the like. Plus, it's not like Biden's even really come close the other times he's run. Biden is only getting attention because he's the only guy with any name recognition or anything that still might, maybe, jump in.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:26
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nachos posted:
ahahahahahaa excellent
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Oct 1, 2015 17:27
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House Republicans including Chaffetz are pissed McCarthy gave the game away
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I don't see how anyone in the whole world could be surprised that the longest running congressional investigation of all time that also involves the front runner for the Dem nomination for the president is anything but a political farce. Like is there someone today devastated by this revelation?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:27
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fade5 posted:The next debate cuts off at 3%, and assuming polls stay consistent, those 6 are the only ones above 3%. So say hi to your top 6 Republican candidates: Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Cruz, Jeb!, and Rubio. CNBC said they'd round 2.5% up to 3, so you might as well call the criteria 2.5%. That would add Kasich and maybe Christie. Paul and Huckabee are on the bubble though.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:29
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zoux posted:I don't see how anyone in the whole world could be surprised that the longest running congressional investigation of all time that also involves the front runner for the Dem nomination for the president is anything but a political farce. Like is there someone today devastated by this revelation? fictional narrative is important but its more important in the sense that mccarthy is going to be on a short leash with these idiots so,
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Oct 1, 2015 17:33
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If you're polling at 2.5% why are you still even spending money on your pipe dream? You got your sound bites and pundit offers. Just let it go, also-rans!
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Oct 1, 2015 17:33
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HootTheOwl posted:If you're polling at 2.5% why are you still even spending money on your pipe dream? You got your sound bites and pundit offers. Just let it go, also-rans! at 2.5% you're within MOE of Jeb!
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Oct 1, 2015 17:34
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HootTheOwl posted:If you're polling at 2.5% why are you still even spending money on your pipe dream? You got your sound bites and pundit offers. Just let it go, also-rans! It ain't their money they're spending.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:35
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zoux posted:It ain't their money they're spending. The only down side to Walker dropping out so early is that he didn't get a chance to waste even more Koch money.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:37
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Coatlicue posted:How does this keep happening? Why on earth, as a sitting house member, would you record such a video? Like I'm not even mad at the hypocrisy of regulating other people's marriages while cheating, I just want to know how all our elected leaders are so idiotic that they keep having leaks of that sort of material. Because he is really loving stupid. That's not meant as a glib answer, the man has a short term focus, a zero sum mentality, regards anything but direct aggression as weakness, requires everything in explicitly direct black and white terms, has low impulse control, and delusions of grandeur. Wrapped together it is the ur-example of "loving stupid". He's a playground bully that fell into office, and he's not even a top dog bully, he's the one who has a chip on his shoulder because he's only number 4 or 5. The fun stuff isn't the sex tape of him banging his secretary. It is a shitload of texts and emails about getting paid off for things related to the casino board and various deals (including the road one) the state has been making. Sex scandals are survivable, getting caught extorting people when you got called out for doing the same in Ohio is the kiss of death
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Oct 1, 2015 17:38
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Gyges posted:If Clinton drops out there will be a surge of potential candidates suddenly throwing their hat in the ring, making a Biden win less likely than it looks now. Cuomo and Gillibrand are both potentially in it, along with any number of governors and the like. Plus, it's not like Biden's even really come close the other times he's run. There are less than two months to declare and make it on the NH ballot. So the time for new candidates to join is closing pretty quick.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:38
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zoux posted:It ain't their money they're spending. Yes it is? Super Pacs don't cover everything. Wasn't Walker floating five-digit credit card balances?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:39
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So why is Trey Gowdy leaving congress.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:39
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HootTheOwl posted:Yes it is? Super Pacs don't cover everything. Wasn't Walker floating five-digit credit card balances? With 27% Interest, yes. Rubio's personal finances are similarly hosed iirc
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Oct 1, 2015 17:40
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:So why is Trey Gowdy leaving congress. No word yet, and the "announcement" wasn't from him, it was from Rep Flemming, though afaik he hasn't said it was wrong
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Oct 1, 2015 17:41
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Fried Chicken posted:No word yet, and the "announcement" wasn't from him, it was from Rep Flemming, though afaik he hasn't said it was wrong Guesses?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:41
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Guesses? Haley as VP pick, he runs for governor in the Special election?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:42
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Fried Chicken posted:Haley as VP pick, he runs for governor in the Special election? That seems awfully -- premature don't you think?
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Oct 1, 2015 17:45
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Fried Chicken posted:Biden has announced he will not be participating in the Dem debate. Apparently it is news that a guy not running for president won't be in the presidential debate Looks like Biden is making sure that the press feels the Bern 
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Oct 1, 2015 17:50
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Guesses? In an ideal world? Terminal illness and/or felony indictment of some sort.
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Oct 1, 2015 17:50
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Fried Chicken posted:With 27% Interest, yes. I don't get this these guys are supposed millionaires how do they get that hosed over an election? Also the party of personal financial responsibility  .
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Oct 1, 2015 18:15
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:That seems awfully -- premature don't you think? Very. But other than that or "I want to spend my days in a beach drinking rum" I can't think of why he would retire.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:15
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Fried Chicken posted:Very. But other than that or "I want to spend my days in a beach drinking rum" I can't think of why he would retire. Can we hope for some sort of personal scandal?
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Oct 1, 2015 18:16
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Azuth0667 posted:I don't get this these guys are supposed millionaires how do they get that hosed over an election? Also the party of personal financial responsibility Walker is poor as poo poo, he was only making 40k a year until recently* Rubio I don't know about * yes 40k a year is quite good by the American median but compared to most of the multimillionaires in the government he's drat poor
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Oct 1, 2015 18:17
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Can we hope for some sort of personal scandal? If t won't blow up for another 2 years, why indicate one now?
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Oct 1, 2015 18:18
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Azuth0667 posted:I don't get this these guys are supposed millionaires how do they get that hosed over an election? Also the party of personal financial responsibility Take a good long look at your choice of any photo or video of Scott Walker, and tell me that's the face of a man who'd care to manage his finances prudently, if he even knew how in the first place.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:21
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Fried Chicken, what was on the Mcmillin sex text, like specifically? Inquiring minds and all.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:21
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Fried Chicken posted:If t won't blow up for another 2 years, why indicate one now? get it out of the way so he can rehab and run for office again, a la sanford?
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Oct 1, 2015 18:23
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pathetic little tramp posted:Fried Chicken, what was on the Mcmillin sex text, like specifically? Inquiring minds and all. Video clip of him of him loving apparently
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Oct 1, 2015 18:25
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New USA Today/Suffolk poll, Martin O'Malley is polling at 0% percent For comparison, Larry Lessig is at 0.47% and Lincoln Chafee is at 0.7%
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Oct 1, 2015 18:35
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Coatlicue posted:How does this keep happening? Why on earth, as a sitting house member, would you record such a video? Like I'm not even mad at the hypocrisy of regulating other people's marriages while cheating, I just want to know how all our elected leaders are so idiotic that they keep having leaks of that sort of material. In order to run for office you have to be kind of full of yourself. Basically half of a candidate's job is cold-calling people and asking them to give the campaign money so they can get elected. You have to do this for hours a day. Plus, the very act of running for office requires convincing yourself and half of the voters that you're the best guy to represent them and that you know what they need from their government. If you're in the political leadership in a legislature, you're used to being the smartest, most powerful guy in the room. You got into leadership by playing your cards right and not just regularly out-campaigning the opposing candidates but by knowing which backs to scratch and which to stab, all while protecting your own backside. It's hard to imagine that sort of thing not messing with your head a little bit. After winning re-election a bunch of times and knife-fighting your way into a position of influence, why on earth would you think something so pedestrian as a sex tape was a concern? If you can deal with that upstart delegate trying to embarrass you for points, surely you can handle keeping a 20-something chick in line. If you can keep all your secret backroom deals out of the papers, why would a tryst be any different? Also the dude's apparently got a sexting fetish, since he also got busted for it in 2005. Jackson Taus fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Oct 1, 2015 18:39
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Fried Chicken posted:New USA Today/Suffolk poll, Martin O'Malley is polling at 0% percent Thanks, unfair Hillary debate schedule.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:41
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Just means more room for O'Mentum!
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Oct 1, 2015 18:42
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You forgot the 'J' and 'e' around the 'O' there.
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Oct 1, 2015 18:43
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Haven't seen any mention of this, so just fyi, there's another innocent man (Kimber Edwards) set to be executed next week in Missouri for alleged murder-by-hire. The killer admitted earlier this year that he acted alone and framed Edwards to avoid the death penalty, and has signed an affidavit stating such. He wasn't a witness in Edwards' case, but his statements out-of-court were admitted as evidence, and the jury wasn't made aware that he had already been convicted for the murder. Edwards' (who is autistic) confession to the crime was obtained after two nine-hour interrogations, in which nobody has any idea what was said, because the police didn't bother to tape them. His confession is riddled with holes - he has receipts proving he was in Florida on the dates he told the police he met with the killer. Edwards immediately recanted his confession at the trial, and has continued to proclaim his innocence. Bottoms up! 
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Oct 1, 2015 18:48
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Do any of these people that execute innocents ever get punished?
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Oct 1, 2015 18:57
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Azuth0667 posted:Do any of these people that execute innocents ever get punished? Does being George Zimmerman count as punishment?
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Tulul posted:Haven't seen any mention of this, so just fyi, there's another innocent man (Kimber Edwards) set to be executed next week in Missouri for alleged murder-by-hire. The killer admitted earlier this year that he acted alone and framed Edwards to avoid the death penalty, and has signed an affidavit stating such. He wasn't a witness in Edwards' case, but his statements out-of-court were admitted as evidence, and the jury wasn't made aware that he had already been convicted for the murder. Edwards' (who is autistic) confession to the crime was obtained after two nine-hour interrogations, in which nobody has any idea what was said, because the police didn't bother to tape them. His confession is riddled with holes - he has receipts proving he was in Florida on the dates he told the police he met with the killer. Edwards immediately recanted his confession at the trial, and has continued to proclaim his innocence. This is the poo poo that always boggles my mind. Like at least with Cameron Todd Willingham the evidence of his innocence was a bunch of new-fangled and complicated science stuff - his execution was an injustice but it was a comprehensible one. I just can't wrap my head around the stuff like this though. Azuth0667 posted:I don't get this these guys are supposed millionaires how do they get that hosed over an election? Also the party of personal financial responsibility People like Rubio or Walker who are basically career politicians (Rubio's first election was 2 years out of law school) usually aren't that rich unless they had rich family. The rich politicians are the ones who either came from a rich family (Bush, Romney, etc), married someone rich (John Kerry, etc) or the ones who had financial success and then transitioned into running for office (Darrel Issa, Mark Warner). Being a politician actually doesn't pay that well. State legislatures usually pay poorly and most aren't even full-time jobs. Congress pays $174K, but requires a member to maintain dual residency in his/her home district and Washington DC, which is the 3rd priciest real estate market in the country (after NYC and Miami). Azuth0667 posted:Do any of these people that execute innocents ever get punished? We've never executed an innocent man. By which I mean we haven't formally exonerated anyone posthumously, even though it's likely that people like Carlos DeLuna, Cameron Todd Willingham, and a few others were innocent (and certainly it's extremely probable that at least one of them was innocent). Even if tomorrow one of those guys is posthumously exonerated it would probably still require serious evidence of bad faith action in someone's part for that person to get punished. It's hard to imagine being able to prove that a prosecutor suborned perjury or destroyed exculpatory evidence or something in one of these cases. Jackson Taus fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:If Hillary had to drop out for anything short of a heart attack, it would be a disaster of 1972 proportions. When the Republican candidates are currently worse than Goldwater, I'd have a hard time seeing exactly how it's be 1972: Part 2 (they wish they had a candidate that came close to even nixon boogaloo)
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