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Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Cardboard Box A posted:

Why is that anime girl wearing a padlocked collar?

Excuse me we don't question anime fashion, it just is or it isn't. :nyoron:

The Taint Reaper posted:

can someone explain why rhythm games usually don't have the buttons line up with the song's beat or anything. It's confusing as all hell.

If you're talking about rhythm games from japan, it's because the average japanese person can't grasp the concept of swung notes. Unless they're practiced, or are big fans of a swung style, they straight-lace the hell out of everything.

If you're talking about rhythm games from america, it's because they're bad at making them, or they were listening to a different part of the song for that spot, like they rhythm'd to a counter-melody instead of the part of the song people actually pay attention to.

Or they're bad games. :shrug:

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Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

icantfindaname posted:

it's cool how he openly admits that games are by their very nature forever doomed to be Bad Art

Ebert was right
http://www.molleindustria.org/blog/the-great-art-upgrade/










The Taint Reaper posted:

She's a fragmented shard of an ancient god that became human in order to watch humanity in order to do the ancient god's bidding unknowingly.

Sort of like how Athena was born by busting out of Zeus' head. The Locket represents a secret.

Nasgate posted:

You mean she's like Zeus' headache?

Athena is her own sentient god, and does her own bidding.

The Taint Reaper posted:

quote:

After Izanami's defeat in the true ending, Marie is revealed to be part of Izanami, whose true name is Izanami-no-Mikoto, who wished to protect humanity while also granting humanity's wish. Marie reveals that Ameno-sagiri, Kunino-sagiri and Izanami-no-Okami have fused with her before she disappears from the Velvet Room to go to parts unknown. When the protagonist returns to Inaba the following summer, she has reappeared in the real world, taking on the name Mariko Kusumi and is now working as a weather forecaster, since her powers as she became whole means that she does not actually forecast Inaba's weather but decides it. However, it is yet unknown if she still retains access to the Velvet Room. She does not actually meet the main characters in the epilogue, but will proclaim her love for the protagonist on TV while they are watching it, only if the protagonist pursues a relationship with Marie after maxing out her social link. At the end of the credits, she can be seen in a photograph together with the rest of the main characters.
it works like dis
:psyduck:

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Games are bad art.

Playing Borderlands 2 with the bf. Games still fun even if the jokes can be really loving bad sometimes.

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

Propaganda Hour posted:

Heroes of the Storm is a lot of fun to start out because it introduces aspects of the game to you at a rate that isn't frustratingly overwhelming or coddling. Unlike DOTA or League you can pick up most of what you need to know about playing the game in a match or two, and the different maps keep things interesting.

I feel like that has been the strong point of Blizzard for a long time. Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm both channel that "easy to pick up, hard to master" ethos better than any other game in their respective genres.

Yeah I forgot to talk about Heroes of the Storm, it's definitely the easiest to pick up. Matches are shorter and the general mechanics are easier to learn. It's honestly pretty fun.

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

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Nasgate posted:

Having only played one of those games, and watching plenty of the other, i have to say that Blizz is still good at "easy to pick up" but not at all good at "hard to master"


You should be making a shitload of money on the tournament circuit if it's that easy for you to master either of those games.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Mistle posted:

If you're talking about rhythm games from japan, it's because the average japanese person can't grasp the concept of swung notes. Unless they're practiced, or are big fans of a swung style, they straight-lace the hell out of everything.

There's a comedian who once said something like "White people dance to the lyrics". A lot of Japanese rhythm games - and especially the Miku games and vocaloid ripoffs, have you hit the note in time with the lyrics.

GOTY Persona 4 Dancing All Night actually gets it right and definitely has all the hits on the beat, which is part of why it's easily the best rhythm game in a long time.

DDR type games aren't actually rhythm games, they're just "memorize this insanely complicated poo poo" games. It's like playing Simon on meth. They don't even try to match anything going on in the song.

Rock Band/Guitar Hero obviously try to emulate hitting notes when the instrument you're playing is actually doing something, which wildly varies between songs as to whether it's "on beat" or "just whatever man" except of course for the drums which kinda by definition are always on beat.

OK That's my one effortpost for the day, time to kick back and crack a cool Coors sixteen ouncer, maybe watch a little Mork and Mindy on Channel 58.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Adam Bowen posted:

You should be making a shitload of money on the tournament circuit if it's that easy for you to master either of those games.

I know this is a Bowen post, but lmao if anyone thinks hots will have a worthwhile tourney. Also lmao if anyone thinks Hearthstone is fair and/or balanced. And even if it was, look to mtg at how profitable winning card tourneys is. It's not.

Of course, as an American I expect to make a cool million in just a few years as a "professional" athlete.

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

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Since it's not hard to master those games I assume you've already done so, so it oughta be pretty easy for you to pick up the $100k from the Hearthstone tournament at least. And there was just a $1 million HOTS tournament which you must have picked up some cash from so :shrug:

El Shmiablo
Jul 11, 2012

I'll fart my way into that snatch. Just you watch.
Amazon is taking forever to deliver Arkham Knight.
I wanted to bam some hams during Batman week but NOPE.

RaDaMaNt
Apr 24, 2012
Video games are the best art. In my opinion. I've gotten a lot of feels from some games.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

RaDaMaNt posted:

Video games are the best art. In my opinion. I've gotten a lot of feels from some games.

dwarf fortress was at the moma lol

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

I can't think of a game more deeply autistic as Dwarf Fortress, so I guess it's art because it isn't 'mainstream'.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
"exp means execution points" gently caress you

Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

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Mak0rz posted:

dwarf fortress was at the moma lol


It's out of place there because it required some actual thought and effort to create

Jubs
Jul 11, 2006

Boy, I think it's about time I tell you the difference between a man and a woman. A woman isn't a woman unless she's pretty. And a man isn't a man unless he's ugly.
Can I make a thread about Lowtax & Shmorky: Planet Earth Defenders?

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
if dwarf fortress is high art then i guess Timecube is the greatest american novel

Locke Dunnegan
Apr 25, 2005

Respectable Bespectacled Receptacle

Adam Bowen posted:

Since it's not hard to master those games I assume you've already done so, so it oughta be pretty easy for you to pick up the $100k from the Hearthstone tournament at least. And there was just a $1 million HOTS tournament which you must have picked up some cash from so :shrug:

To be fair, as a long time Hearthstone player a big reason why I don't take it seriously as a competitive game is because of the inclusion of extremely swingy cards, with more being added each expansion. Cards like Ram Wrangler, Tuskarr Totemic, Unstable Portal, Confessor Paletress, etc. can just end the game immediately regardless of player skill or any gameplay up to that point. Those may be bad examples because they tend to not be used much in the higher brackets, but even poo poo like Flamecannon or Brawl can make or break a match without any actual input. There's also the issue with card balance varying wildly because of unforeseen synergies and degenerate combos that Blizzard then basically refuses to fix for months or ever, so a huge chunk of the cards don't get used because they don't cheat enough. Whenever decks are only viable when they can cheat a shitload of value out every play you have a problem with your game's design. It reminds me of the stupid save-or-die mechanics in D&D 3e.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


precision posted:

if dwarf fortress is high art then i guess Timecube is the greatest american novel

its ready player one, actually

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

icantfindaname posted:

its ready player one, actually

is that the one where the hero's literally named w1nst0n

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Locke Dunnegan posted:

Ram Wrangler, Tuskarr Totemic, Unstable Portal, Confessor Paletress

These are all excellent porn names.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

corn in the bible posted:

is that the one where the hero's literally named w1nst0n

Nah but the main characters all use similarly terrible online handles as names. It's like a combination of the Matrix, National Treasure and Pixels but a whole lot worse than the sum of its parts.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


corn in the bible posted:

is that the one where the hero's literally named w1nst0n

no but i did sort of wish the protagonist got a cage full of hungry rats locked onto his head

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
The big difference between Ready Player One and Timecube is that the latter is actually worth reading for entertainment purposes.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Broseph Brostar posted:

Nah but the main characters all use similarly terrible online handles as names. It's like a combination of the Matrix, National Treasure and Pixels but a whole lot worse than the sum of its parts.

To be fair, National Treasure is a case of Nicolas cage single-handedly saving a movie, and the Matrix was only cool because it was some fancy cgi poo poo at the time. So I can see how, lacking those aspects, they would turn out bad.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




the nick cage ghost rider where he pees fire is a fun movie. nick cage is the real national treasure

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.

Nasgate posted:

To be fair, National Treasure is a case of Nicolas cage single-handedly saving a movie, and the Matrix was only cool because it was some fancy cgi poo poo at the time. So I can see how, lacking those aspects, they would turn out bad.

idk, if the matrix had will smith as neo it'd probably be an even better movie.

certainly better than wild wild west

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




i'm a big will smith action star supporter but keanu is a great neo

Ekster
Jul 18, 2013

Also we would've got one of Smith's 90s movie music hits.

Sorry Keanu.

Real hurthling!
Sep 11, 2001




matrix as a action comedy to suit smith's 90's style would be different that's for sure

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
no joke, will smith was offered the role of neo and turned it down to do wild wild west because the matrix didn't really come across that well as a pitch.

bloodychill
May 8, 2004

And if the world
should end tonight,
I had a crazy, classic life
Exciting Lemon
gettin digi wit it

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

Instant Sunrise posted:

no joke, will smith was offered the role of neo and turned it down to do wild wild west because the matrix didn't really come across that well as a pitch.

The same thing kinda happened with Sean Connery where he turned down the role of Morpheus because he didn't understand the movie. After the success of the Matrix he decided the next time that happened he'd take the role regardless, and that next offer was the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen :v:

Ravane
Oct 23, 2010

by LadyAmbien

Broseph Brostar posted:

The same thing kinda happened with Sean Connery where he turned down the role of Morpheus because he didn't understand the movie. After the success of the Matrix he decided the next time that happened he'd take the role regardless, and that next offer was the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen :v:

Takesh the blue pill and you'll wake up on your bed in your shkivvies. Takesh the red pill, and you'llsh shee how far the rabbitsh hole goesh.


Think sean connery would have fared better as the architect though.

Nasgate
Jun 7, 2011

Broseph Brostar posted:

The same thing kinda happened with Sean Connery where he turned down the role of Morpheus because he didn't understand the movie. After the success of the Matrix he decided the next time that happened he'd take the role regardless, and that next offer was the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen :v:

drat, The Matrix with Willie and Sean would've been an entirely different movie.

dodecahardon
Oct 20, 2008
Are there any rhythm games that feel like gitaroo man or elite beat agents? I like the way they play and that they are full of dumb goofy poo poo.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
Remember when the US Government was giving this game away for free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3aWFyumWCo

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Cardboard Box A posted:

Remember when the US Government was giving this game away for free?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3aWFyumWCo

The Suffering is actually pretty awesome but the sequel disappoints

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

corn in the bible posted:

The Suffering is actually pretty awesome but the sequel disappoints

What's up, disappointed in a sequal to a game that owned, bro. :(:hf::(

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


precision posted:

guacamelee is legit funny idk how there is even room for debate here

because nerds on the internet get triggered and worked up into a frothy rage when they see references to things on the internet

guacamelee is cool + good and gently caress you if you say otherwise

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Adam Bowen
Jan 6, 2003

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References are fine, but when there's hardly a screen or a sentence that isn't a reference to something it gets pretty lame. Apparently making that point means that I'm worked up into a rage though

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