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What is YISUN?
Mother
A lie we tell ourselves to have a purpose
Bliss
A paradox with no solution
Father
A strong female protagonist
The weakest thing there is and the smallest crawling thing
Creator
Everything in this miserable and hellish existence
A solution with no paradoxes
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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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So they don't know that the person they have floating on the table isn't the conquering kings reincarnation, do they? Either "Sloth" or her translators have gotten it mixed up.

I am so looking forward to Mottam's surprise at this.

Also we know that Jagganoth is the strongest, but who is going to be next?

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I wonder if Incubus still looks halfway as pretty as he does in some of the other pictures we have seen of him? I know Mottom sure as hell doesn't, but whose to say that he may have retained his good looks.

Also whose betting that every time we see one of his "consorts" it'll be a different one each time.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Okay so we have the following cast of not gods:

Jagganoth- Wrath and strongest of the 7
Solomon David- Pride, Most normally named and smug of the 7
Jadis- Sloth and the prophetic one
Mammon- Greed, dragon one and one with the least amount of screen time.
Gog-Agog - Jealousy, worm faced one and batshit.
Mottom- Gluttony and the one that Alison is on the way to stab.
Incubus- Lust and David Bowie rear end hole.

That's the full list, add to that we have the Devils and the 2 different types of Angels alongside all of the mercenaries planning to kill Alison for the key.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Tollymain posted:

"what you don't know yet is that you want this"

I think that's when it graduates from "Police" to "mega city judges"

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I'd love white chain and 10 vigilant to come back and add an additional tally to Michael's set up.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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2- Michael is an rear end in a top hat.

Josef bugman
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Haystack posted:

That, and Gloratha's Lunar mysticism. Ken Rolston wrote runequest supplements back in the day.

Sedenya must fall. Seriously part of me wants Jenx to try and team up with Abaddon for some of the later Hero Wars drawings in Prince of Sartar.

And yeah, this is incredibly satisfying to watch her get more and more pissed about her inevitable defeat.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Oxxidation posted:

the first reader comment on today's page is by far the best one

I'm personally partial to "Why do I hear Megalovania playing?"

Also 10 Vigilant is my favourite angel design. I love my bulky stompy boy.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I assume that one of the big problems with the various Demiruges is that they don't have folks around them to talk stuff through. White Chain and Cio seem to be helping Alison to see the changes and try to resolve them, and by so doing change her and themselves.

The Demiruges (despite all the outward growth of power) never actually change. They remain and are static, if not in powers then in personality. I think if anything this comic is trying to show the power that comes from change.

Josef bugman
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Shoehead posted:

What if it's all Incubus?

I mena it could be, but it seems unlikely. Alison seems to be growing as a person at the same time as growing stronger. I think that is because of Cio, White Chain and her own efforts.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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gently caress YES

Josef bugman
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Angry Lobster posted:

Literally horse Goku. Poor Juggernaut, she always fights the wrong people.

Poor Juggernaut, thought of beams and died.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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People are thirsting after robot punch grandad in the comic comments and I am very disturbed.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Paramemetic posted:

Solomon is gonna let Allison trade the key for the lives of her + the B Team, Allison is gonna do it. Maya is gonna ask her what she thinks about death now.

Seeing as how we've been being surprised this entire arc through why not have salami Dave get gutstabbed by Maya.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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By Salami Dave.

Also, gently caress me this is 1) Really cool 2) Ridiculously OTT even now and 3) probably going to end in a big dead gold baby, isn't it?

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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So the black flame, the white flame, and the body they burn to sustain it.

Yisun is dead and Salami Dave may well be meeting them soon.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Never mind, question got answered.

Also, I cannot wait to see what White Chain thinks up to some how surprise us.

Josef bugman fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 8, 2020

Josef bugman
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Ixjuvin posted:

Hahahahahahahaha How The gently caress Is Time Real Hahahaha Prim Just Walk Away From Your Opponents Like Prim Just Breathe Correctly Haha

God dammit this made me wheeze laughing.

Also I think that Salami Dave has already made a mistake, but I wonder what it is.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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I am bad at predicting things, but do you think when he starts doing magic time Bullshit and it, say, doesn't work he will have a breakdown then or afterwards when he has been cut?

Josef bugman
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They are very good at Ki Rata and very bad at knowing what betrayal looks like.

However, I wonder if this is what will undo Salami Dave as well. He is so used to being the biggest fish that something very unexpected happening means he is completely thrown off.

Josef bugman
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K Prime posted:

There's also a fascinating historical undercurrent that the Chancellor of Qin, Zhao Gao, may have been deliberately making the laws absurd in an attempt to wreak vengeance on Qin from within.

I think the worst thing is that Legalism kind of won.

I read somewhere that a lot of Chinese empires were basically a thing Confucian covering over a very legalist structure.

Josef bugman
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That's fair.

Speaking of, I read recently about Neo-Confucianism and all I can say is holy gently caress, Confucianism may well be weird as heck in some aspects and Legalism may be bad but never really practised, but Neo-Confucianism just seems to be mainlining misogyny in a horrifying manner.

Josef bugman
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Tulip posted:

Oh yeah the hardliners got completely loving broke-brained by Wu Zetian.

Why did it go so badly do you think?

I have a soft spot for the T'ang. I really do wish that they'd been more of the groundwork for later things to copy and not the Song.

Josef bugman
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God I love the Tang. The bit where Taizong basically undoes every Confucian virtue (murders own brother, locks dad up in a home) and then proceeds to rule pretty well is just :discourse:.

Every bit of them is just flagrantly co-opting stuff. It's just wonderful.

Josef bugman
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MonsieurChoc posted:

Sounds like they were mad because she owned too much.

I mean yeah.

Tang Dynasty best Dynasty, don't @ me.

Josef bugman
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The one that will become the Argrath must be stopped. Because they are ultimately not Arkat. Arkat understood and, having committed vast crimes and terrible miracles, retired. He did what no other being could do and made a place for himself in a world that, whilst changed, remained.

Argrath will not allow what has changed to remain and will not accept that the Red Moon and himself share similarities. He will succeed not by Synthesis but through utter ruination. Albeit the Red Moon deserves it, because who doesn't want to kick the ever loving poo poo out of the Romans, but Argrath will make no real distinction and will not meet with the moon goddess as Arkat did with Nysalor.

I also love that Orlanth and Arkat both have something similar in themselves. They both make mistakes and try to fix them and, at the end, choose to step back a bit and let others come to the fore.

On to K6BD chat, but I would love to see Voss show up behind Incubus and scare the ever loving gently caress out of him.

Josef bugman
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shirts and skins posted:

Isn't Voss the bottled water with the cylinder container? I guess Incubus *is* a thirsty boi

Zoss, sorry got my Kings confused!

Josef bugman
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http://www.princeofsartar.com/comic/introduction-chapter-1/

Here we go. That is the start of it.

It finishes midway through, but it still is very fun while it lasts!

Josef bugman
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Kwyndig posted:

Also way to call it.

Thanks, I am now worried about my own predictive ability!

loving hell Zoss is both terrifying and impressive.

Josef bugman
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hey girl you up posted:

In non-Zoss news, it looks like Meti is just as bad at the whole "getting your master's lessons" thing as her students.

Everyone takes away the lesson they want to learn, not the lesson that you were trying to teach them.

Josef bugman
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Zoss is a failure, but I think he is not the first or last failure to create something.

I think he wants Alison to be better than him, and to not attain Royalty through cutting. He wants her to obtain Royalty not through power or strength alone, but in part through weakness.

Josef bugman
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He's not trying to "reset" anything. He is trying to do the far more difficult thing of encouraging growth through it.

He know's he failed, and so knows that strength alone will not make him victorious.

6/7 Juggs is right, but in a very important way they are also completely wrong. Because they view all of reality as a constant struggle and hate everything about it, they are the ones who want a reset. They wish the universe to be "clean" to be "purified" but such a thing is impossible, instead Zoss represents a way to learn from failure, not to salt the earth and learn nothing from it.

Josef bugman
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Brain Candy posted:

Also, me going Zoss shouldn't be smug and you going 'but he's better than the other broken monsters' is not exactly super convincing.

I don't think he is smug? He clearly knows a fair bit, but he never comes across as cruel or self serving enough to be smug. He just doesn't like any of the demiurges because, as we have been shown over and over, they are bad folks. If anything they are worse than him even though he laid the ground work, because they did not follow in his footsteps. He took what he could by power and then they followed the shape of what he did without questioning why he did it.

He has a load of self belief, and a lot of power, but I think he's reached the end of what he is capable of. He hates the demiurges because they remind him of the worst aspects of "ruling". I think he even dislikes himself a bit.

Josef bugman
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She also knows that Strength is gained not through sole victory, but collective one.

I also love Zoss atop the wheel.

Josef bugman
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You know when you start to hear the build up music. I feel that I am at that point.

I am really wondering where the hell it goes from here.

Josef bugman
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https://twitter.com/Orbitaldropkick/status/1283497452411195396/photo/1

Oh noooo.

Josef bugman
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PMush Perfect posted:



I spent way more time on this joke than it deserves.

:five:

Josef bugman
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Why do I hear a remix of the episodes starting theme?

Josef bugman
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I am torn between the "hit him once and he explodes" interpretation and the "hit him enough to damage him and he kills white chain like an rear end in a top hat" interpretation.

Both of them are terrifying.

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I hate that I have no idea where this is going to go.

What days does this comic update on again?

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