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Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
I work at a place that cashes checks (and other things). I'm on night shift so I have time to spare. I have a few stories but I don't know which you guys might be interested in, if any.

1) Customer poop stories. (That is, they pooped on the floor and it caused a lot of trouble.)
2) Customer recognized me outside of work but didn't recognize that we were not at my work.
3) Counterfeit check stories.
4) Customers not being able to keep clothes on.
5) Candy assault.

Or whatever else comes to mind! I just want to share some hilarious happenings.

Agoat fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Oct 7, 2015

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE
All of the above, we have an emote that probably gives away the starting point though.

:itwaspoo:

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
I'll start with poop and move onto whichever someone calls out next. Typing on mobile is rough, but...

It was a slow day at work, mostly selling money orders and shooting the poo poo with a lead. It was just the two of us that day, which was usually fine. An older gentleman came in and cashed a check, and he seemed distressed. I don't usually pry unless I have to, it's usually something strange that bothers our customers. The gentleman leaves, and a lady comes in wearing sandals. She begins to literally slide towards the teller windows. Again, I don't ask why she's sliding across the floor. I can't even see it from where I'm standing. She leaves and another woman takes her place to purchase a stamp. She drops the stamp and her face turns pale. I peek over the counter to discover a thick layer of liquid poo poo spread all across the floor. Our customers had been walking in poo poo.

We assist the rest of the customers and lock the doors. I'm sent outside to survey the damage. Turns out the old man from earlier didn't just squirt out a little bit, he literally dumped on our lobby floor. Meanwhile, there's a line at the front door of people observing the tragedy, but apparently don't care because they were still standing in poo poo that got tracked outside the front door. I pointed at the ground to tell them, only to have a lady reply "That ain't a money order! Open up!"

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos
Does your work do payday loans or other short-term loans? Do you feel like your company takes advantage of people?

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Are you in the US OP? Do you work at a pawnbroker type place or is it purely cash & checks?

MongooseJ
Jul 28, 2000
Forum Veteran

Panda Bear posted:

Does your work do payday loans or other short-term loans? Do you feel like your company takes advantage of people?

And if you don't feel this way, please also post about how it feels to be a robot in a human world.

Tujague
May 8, 2007

by LadyAmbien
Hey, maybe you should just pick the most interesting story and tell it

instead of whatever this is

jackass

Vagon
Oct 22, 2005

Teehee!

Panda Bear posted:

Does your work do payday loans or other short-term loans? Do you feel like your company takes advantage of people?

Payday loan brokers are the worst people on earth.

Crazyeyes
Nov 5, 2009

If I were human, I believe my response would be: 'go to hell'.
How much cash do you keep on hand? Also where are you located and how thick is your safety glass?

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Crazyeyes posted:

How much cash do you keep on hand? Also where are you located and how thick is your safety glass?

I worked at a bank and we did the cash drops.. I seem to remember the bigger ones ordering 250k for a holiday weekend

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid
What was the situation with hose customers who treated you outside of work as if you were working?

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

Why have you forsaken us, OP?

Vagon posted:

Payday loan brokers are the worst people on earth.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Non Serviam posted:

What was the situation with hose customers who treated you outside of work as if you were working?

Back on another overnight shift. Was busy killing kittens.

I was at Wal-Mart buying the new Gears game. I was waiting in line to pay when the lady in front of me started looking around, eventually looking to me. She focused on me then had this weird look like she was staring through me and let out "I need a money order for $300 and a stamped envelope". I wasn't in uniform, I was wearing that Destiny shirt they had for the Nepal earthquake. I just sorta looked at the lady, I really didn't know what to say. She looked angry for a second then seemed to realize she was at Wal-Mart. Then she paid for her groceries and left.

And yeah, I do payday loans, at least for right now. It pays the bills until I can find work elsewhere.

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?
Don't see the issue with payday brokers. They might not be saving the world but obviously the service exists because consumers want it. Usury rates for payday loans are high because it is an extremely risky proposition. If it wasn't as risky, they would charge less. The process is transparent..nobody walks into a payday broker thinking they are making out like a bandit. The same way people who walk into pawn shops know they aren't going to get the retail price for their wedding ring they decide to liquidate.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

faarcyde posted:

Don't see the issue with payday brokers. They might not be saving the world but obviously the service exists because consumers want it. Usury rates for payday loans are high because it is an extremely risky proposition. If it wasn't as risky, they would charge less. The process is transparent..nobody walks into a payday broker thinking they are making out like a bandit. The same way people who walk into pawn shops know they aren't going to get the retail price for their wedding ring they decide to liquidate.

We actually have to disclose a ton of information and be very clear about what we're doing during the application process otherwise the company might get shut down.

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos

faarcyde posted:

Don't see the issue with payday brokers. They might not be saving the world but obviously the service exists because consumers want it. Usury rates for payday loans are high because it is an extremely risky proposition. If it wasn't as risky, they would charge less. The process is transparent..nobody walks into a payday broker thinking they are making out like a bandit. The same way people who walk into pawn shops know they aren't going to get the retail price for their wedding ring they decide to liquidate.

human beings will always favor instant gratification and need compassionate people to save them from themselves. consumers demand things like heroin; most people that do it are equally aware of the consequences as well.

twig1919
Nov 1, 2011
I am an inconsiderate moron whose only method of discourse is idiotic personal attacks.

Panda Bear posted:

human beings will always favor instant gratification and need compassionate people to save them from themselves. consumers demand things like heroin; most people that do it are equally aware of the consequences as well.

Most people start doing heroin while on the influence of other drugs. While this may be true for payday loans, they are also not one of the most addictive substances on the planet.

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?

Panda Bear posted:

human beings will always favor instant gratification and need compassionate people to save them from themselves. consumers demand things like heroin; most people that do it are equally aware of the consequences as well.
I believe that is called "the vision of the anointed", thinking that you can make a better decision for someone than they can for themselves.

The alternative in your scenario is they have no access to credit because nobody will lend to someone if they aren't compensated for the risk. Is that better then them having the option if they need it and making an individual decision?

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010
What is the craziest reason you ever heard of for someone taking out a payday loan?

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Leviathan Song posted:

What is the craziest reason you ever heard of for someone taking out a payday loan?

A guy got one in my first week on the job to buy an iPhone. Months later he was getting them back to back and was very upset with me for not stopping him. (Which I'm not allowed to do.)

Imaduck
Apr 16, 2007

the magnetorotational instability turns me on

faarcyde posted:

Usury rates for payday loans are high because it is an extremely risky proposition. If it wasn't as risky, they would charge less. The process is transparent..nobody walks into a payday broker thinking they are making out like a bandit. The same way people who walk into pawn shops know they aren't going to get the retail price for their wedding ring they decide to liquidate.
You've got their business model backwards: the payday loans places want you to fail, so they can keep you forever indebted. They aggressively lobby the government and utilize legal loopholes to let them have the worst penalty fees imaginable. John Oliver summarizes it well here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDylgzybWAw .

That being said, I'm still interested in hearing your stories, OP! Tell us more!

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?
The fact they are designing their business to be the most profitable it can be is irrelevant. Every business in existence functions the same way by trying to maximize their profit and every consumer tries to minimize their cost. That's called a price. The only difference is you want to be the moral arbiter of how two people are making a mutual decision. If Starbucks wanted to charge $100 for a latte they could but they don't because the consumer says they can't.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
Companies make more money off of return check fees but they want to ultimately collect. The business model is aimed at people financially struggling. It's shady but they're legally required to be up front about every aspect of the transaction. The company I work for is very tough on complying with these laws, the company can be shut down if we don't. We also have to encourage our service, it's discrimination if we don't.

Imaduck posted:

That being said, I'm still interested in hearing your stories, OP! Tell us more!
I had a lady just yell at me for 30 minutes about a returned payday loan then suddenly decided she wanted to pay it and was very kind about it. Weird stuff. She also wasn't wearing pants.

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos

twig1919 posted:

Most people start doing heroin while on the influence of other drugs. While this may be true for payday loans, they are also not one of the most addictive substances on the planet.
I'm not even going to reply to gateway drug theory

faarcyde posted:

I believe that is called "the vision of the anointed", thinking that you can make a better decision for someone than they can for themselves.

The alternative in your scenario is they have no access to credit because nobody will lend to someone if they aren't compensated for the risk. Is that better then them having the option if they need it and making an individual decision?
How is that the alternative in my "scenario?" I believe that is called "a false dichotomy." I'm not saying that people shouldn't have access to credit.

FYI for the others reading this thread, "vision of the anointed" is a term coined by a libertarian economist who has written books against "intellectualism" as well as the book condoning extremely limited government that this phrase comes from.

faarcyde posted:

The fact they are designing their business to be the most profitable it can be is irrelevant. Every business in existence functions the same way by trying to maximize their profit and every consumer tries to minimize their cost. That's called a price. The only difference is you want to be the moral arbiter of how two people are making a mutual decision. If Starbucks wanted to charge $100 for a latte they could but they don't because the consumer says they can't.

Third parties exist as moral arbiters of how two people make mutual decisions all the time, precisely because every business will try to maximize profit no matter what if left completely unchecked. This isn't exactly anything new here, it's called government. The consumer won't buy a $100 coffee from a business because the typical consumer isn't ignorant about what $100 is, unlike interest rates.

Just jump to the point where you say that the invisible hand of the free market is solely responsible for everything not descending into chaos so more people know to ignore the rest of your posts. I mean, this is practically what you're inferring with that analogy anyway.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
Please don't hijack my thread, you don't know anything about my work and you're not actually saying anything.

Redrum and Coke
Feb 25, 2006

wAstIng 10 bUcks ON an aVaTar iS StUpid

Agoat posted:

Please don't hijack my thread, you don't know anything about my work and you're not actually saying anything.

I support the idea of people not hijacking your thread.
However, you're a cashier at this joint, your ideas on the business model are relevant, true, but as much as a fry cook's opinion at McDonald's are on fast food regulation. You're not the goddamn CEO.

Tell us crazy stories.

Antifa Sarkeesian
Jun 4, 2009

yo les digo que no, que no soy la madre de nadie, pero que, eso si, los conozco a todos, a todos los jóvenes poetas del DF, a los que nacieron aquí y a los que llegaron de provincias, y a los que el oleaje trajo de otros lugares de Latinoamérica, y que los quiero a todos
okay, I'll stick to the format of ***your thread***, op.

Does the CEO of your particular company do anything to stymie financial regulatory reform or is he/she one of the less politically active ones?

oh and

Do you usually laugh at the poor, mentally ill and incontinent or only when you're on the clock? I'm guessing always since you made a thread about it.

thanks op

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy

Panda Bear posted:

Do you usually laugh at the poor, mentally ill and incontinent or only when you're on the clock? I'm guessing always since you made a thread about it.

thanks op

Only when they post in my threads.

Non Serviam posted:

I support the idea of people not hijacking your thread.
However, you're a cashier at this joint, your ideas on the business model are relevant, true, but as much as a fry cook's opinion at McDonald's are on fast food regulation. You're not the goddamn CEO.

Tell us crazy stories.

I'm probably the most relevant when one side of the argument is how bad of a person I am for making rent this month.

Agoat fucked around with this message at 08:30 on Oct 13, 2015

Blackchamber
Jan 25, 2005

Thread is lacking in good stories. Had a good start with one involving poo poo then went to 'one time a customer was mean' which is an interesting twist compared to other customer service related job stories that we usually get here.

Post more stories. Good ones.

Leviathan Song
Sep 8, 2010

Agoat posted:

A guy got one in my first week on the job to buy an iPhone. Months later he was getting them back to back and was very upset with me for not stopping him. (Which I'm not allowed to do.)

An iphone is the best you've got? I was hoping for a hooker vacation or a Galapagos tortoise or something.

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Panda Bear posted:

okay, I'll stick to the format of ***your thread***, op.

Does the CEO of your particular company do anything to stymie financial regulatory reform or is he/she one of the less politically active ones?

oh and

Do you usually laugh at the poor, mentally ill and incontinent or only when you're on the clock? I'm guessing always since you made a thread about it.

thanks op

Don't be an rear end in a top hat, man. OP doesn't HAVE to do an A/T about their hosed up, soul crushing job. I'd like to read OP's horrible and depressing stories without it getting hijacked by a crackhead crusader.

Son of Man
Jan 29, 2003

by Azathoth

Skoll posted:

Don't be an rear end in a top hat, man. OP doesn't HAVE to do an A/T about their hosed up, soul crushing job.

??? OP just did post a thread about their hosed up, soul crushing job

more soul crushing stories

Skoll
Jul 26, 2013

Oh You'll Love My Toxic Love
Grimey Drawer

Son of Man posted:

??? OP just did post a thread about their hosed up, soul crushing job

more soul crushing stories

Sorry, I didn't have my morning coffee yet when I wrote that.

Imaduck
Apr 16, 2007

the magnetorotational instability turns me on

faarcyde posted:

The fact they are designing their business to be the most profitable it can be is irrelevant. Every business in existence functions the same way by trying to maximize their profit and every consumer tries to minimize their cost. That's called a price.
It's relevant because people are making the argument that the loan rates are really high because the loans themselves are so high risk. The reality is that payday loan businesses are preying on desperate customers and manipulating the government so that they can artificially set their rates to as high as they want to.

quote:

The only difference is you want to be the moral arbiter of how two people are making a mutual decision. If Starbucks wanted to charge $100 for a latte they could but they don't because the consumer says they can't.
There's a difference between luxury goods (e.g. coffee) and things people need out of desperation. If your world is about to fall apart because you can't afford to drive to work and might lose your job, or you need to buy your child's medicine, then you might not be thinking that clearly. You might not have time to shop around. You might take risks that you normally wouldn't. You might not evaluate what's being presented to you in the clearest of light.

These businesses aren't working as intended for the consumer. The vast majority of their income comes from people who have defaulted on their initial loan. Their training materials demonstrate that they're purposely trying to keep their customers in endless cycles of debt. They're able to pull this off because clearly there is an informational and situational imbalance between the business and the consumer, and the businesses are taking advantage of that.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

Imaduck posted:

It's relevant because people are making the argument that the loan rates are really high because the loans themselves are so high risk. The reality is that payday loan businesses are preying on desperate customers and manipulating the government so that they can artificially set their rates to as high as they want to.
These are both true things. The loans are high risk, and also payday loan places are preying on the desperate and stupid.

Imaduck
Apr 16, 2007

the magnetorotational instability turns me on
^^ Sure, but a lot of "free market" folks like to believe that every market is operating optimally and that the businesses all are just slinking by on narrow margins because there's so much competition. The truth is that in some markets, pricing is a lot more complicated than supply and demand. In this case, you have customers who will take loans at almost any rate out of desperation and need, making things like marketing and physical proximity more important than the actual rates they're offering.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

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One evening a woman came in to cash a check. She went to one of the windows that was farther away, so I walked over to grab her ID and her check then went back to the middle of the branch to process it within the computer. I walked back over with her money to discover she lifted up her shirt and has pulled out her titties in an effort to readjust herself. She wasn't wearing pants, either. "Ma'am, what the actual gently caress are you doing?" "I was itchy and... you got cameras?" This woman was more concerned with cameras than the human being in front of her. She took her money and left... without pulling down her shirt.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Vagon posted:

Payday loan brokers are the worst people on earth.

The management and owners are definitely up there, but I have no particularly major objection to the grunts at the counter.

faarcyde
Dec 5, 2005
what the hell did you trade Jay Buhner for!?
I'll defer to OP and make this my last post.

Panda you say it is a false dichotomy. That would be true if there was any other alternative but in this case it is actually binary. If payday loan places didn't charge the rates they do, nobody would lend money to that type of credit risk. They would have no option. Is that better than having the choice?

It works the same everywhere. Junk bond yields have historically been around 10-12%. For AAA rated companies and the government, closer to 4-5%. I am assuming you are advocating some sort of prohibition or government control. For the sake of argument let's say you want some control that says they can only charge X percent. If you apply that to junk bonds vs AAA rated bonds, NOBODY would buy junk bonds because they are assuming more risk for less reward and money would flood to more moderately risky assets for the same yield. Just because a choice isn't romantic and utopian doesn't mean it's not the best of the worst options.

quote:

FYI for the others reading this thread, "vision of the anointed" is a term coined by a libertarian economist who has written books against "intellectualism" as well as the book condoning extremely limited government that this phrase comes from.
I don't really understand the point of your ad hominem. Obviously we are arguing from different sides of the net.

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Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

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I don't mind talk about payday loans, but gently caress off if you think you're going to guilt me over my job.

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