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In the Jewish tradition, you don't name the baby until a few days after it's born and you don't do things like set up a nursery until it is born, so I'll totally believe there are cultures that take that farther.
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Paladinus posted:Continuing your logic, we don't consider foetuses humans for the same reason. Is that what you're getting at? Do you live in a tribal culture without access to modern medicare? I mean that those people did not have a choice, or any ability to know whether any of their children will actually make it to adulthood, so mocking their way of mentally writing off their infants and toddlers is quite tasteless. But by all means, of course you are allowed to consider this as an rally for the loving idiotic Alabama abortion law.
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Chitin posted:In the Jewish tradition, you don't name the baby until a few days after it's born and you don't do things like set up a nursery until it is born, so I'll totally believe there are cultures that take that farther. I think I read somewhere that in America it wasn't common to name babies before their second or third birthday until right around the time of our civil war.
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May 16, 2019 21:36
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when i learned about that bit of Jewish culture i was excited. for a long time I have felt vaguely creepy about buying stuff and throwing parties for a baby that hasn't arrived yet, but i felt like a weirdo about it because i grew up in a pretty homogenous place where i just had never heard of anyone who didn't want to do a baby shower
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May 16, 2019 21:36
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Der Kyhe posted:Do you live in a tribal culture without access to modern medicare? That wasn't my intention. I really just wanted to clarify your position, because there is a clear parallel there.
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May 16, 2019 21:48
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Koreans have the 백일 (baek-il) which used to basically be "Hooray, you made it to 100 days old without dying!" Even though I live in the US I'm still gonna throw a baek-il for my kids, as well as a 돌. During dol I get to dress them up in traditional hanbok, and it's super adorable. 
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Koreans have the 백일 (baek-il) which used to basically be "Hooray, you made it to 100 days old without dying!" What are these things that look like stones on the left and right side of the cake? Some kind of pastry? Edit: Looks like they are various types of rice cake. Man, now I want a dol. Unperson_47 has a new favorite as of 22:01 on May 16, 2019 |
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Unperson_47 posted:What are these things that look like stones on the left and right side of the cake? Some kind of pastry?
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Unperson_47 posted:What are these things that look like stones on the left and right side of the cake? Some kind of pastry? Have you never seen shrimp before??
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Those are tteok, a type of rice cake. Some have sweet bean filling, some have fruit, there's a bunch of varieties and they're all great! I have never in all my life seen a word that begins with "tt." That's amazing! (Scrabble, here I come)
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I don't know how representative this is but my sister-in-law is Korean American and they didn't make a big deal out of 100 days but they did have a blow-out "Doljanchi" celebration for their kid's first birthday.
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pangstrom posted:I don't know how representative this is but my sister-in-law is Korean American and they didn't make a big deal out of 100 days but they did have a blow-out "Doljanchi" celebration for their kid's first birthday. yeah iirc i have some korean-american friends who basically did that full blowout for first birthday vs. 100 days. they dressed their tiny babbies up in formal western suits/dresses (vs. traditional Korean garb) and it was still  as hecke: i think one of them even went to the effort to do both a traditional Korean outfit and a formal Western one, so double the on dat babby
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Der Kyhe posted:Because of this, there are/were some (very small and usually tribal) cultures where the child was given a name and become "a person" only after their third birthday. Infant fatality used to be so high that it was more merciful to not think infants and toddlers as real people. In Scandinavia until the late 1800s, they'd just reuse the name of the last kid that died. I've seen like 4 kids with the same name die and be "reborn" like that. One major reason was that children were almost always steadfastly named after a certain rigorous system, depending where you were from. Some places it was grandpa paternal/maternal, then grandma maternal/paternal, etc. Very inscrutable, and very specific. Also, if someone in the family died, regardless of specific relation, chances are the next kid born would bear their name, so naturally a child born after a dead older sibling would get their name as well. "Alright, John the fourth — let's see if you can catch the ball this time eh?" says John the first, desperately
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Electrical Fire posted:Have you never seen shrimp before?? I appreciate you.
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Krankenstyle posted:In Scandinavia until the late 1800s, they'd just reuse the name of the last kid that died. I've seen like 4 kids with the same name die and be "reborn" like that. i used my knowledge of practices like this to figure out a minor plot point of Hamilton as we were sitting waiting for it to begin, and i think MY FIANCEE was slightly annoyed with me about it lol
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May 18, 2019 03:55
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What, the two Philip Hamiltons?
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The name of the one who died at Weehawken was clearly called Poet, and he was a philip. 
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Krankenstyle posted:In Scandinavia until the late 1800s, they'd just reuse the name of the last kid that died. I've seen like 4 kids with the same name die and be "reborn" like that. This is a plot point of Trans Siberian Orchestra’s rock opera Beethoven’s Last Night. The story is about the devil trying to make a Faustian bargain with Beethoven, who eventually signs a contract giving the devil a symphony written by “Ludwig van Beethoven, firstborn of Johann van Beethoven.” However, it turned out Johann had had a previous son also named Ludwig who died in infancy, so the devil was only entitled to a symphony written by that infant. “I guess back then coming up with names was hard.”
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Paladinus posted:Continuing your logic, we don't consider foetuses humans for the same reason. Is that what you're getting at? shut up you bad-faith arguing dumbass
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Tree Bucket posted:I have never in all my life seen a word that begins with "tt." That's amazing! TTL: transistor–transistor logic TTS: text‐to‐speech TTY: teletypewriter
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Platystemon posted:TTL: transistor–transistor logic TTL is 'time to live'. It's used for computer network connections and such.
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The chart seems to be the voting percentage but the numbers are the seats they'll get for the number of votes. UKIP gets loads of votes but not in one area so they get no seats.
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Aramoro posted:The chart seems to be the voting percentage but the numbers are the seats they'll get for the number of votes. UKIP gets loads of votes but not in one area so they get no seats. It doesn't look like it matches the vote percentages either. UKIP really collapsed in 2017 and barely beat out the Greens in voteshare.
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May 18, 2019 12:18
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The Labour and Tory bars would also be basically identical, 40%/42%
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May 18, 2019 12:37
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Vavrek posted:What, the two Philip Hamiltons? Please: Philips Hamilton Jurgan posted:This is a plot point of Trans Siberian Orchestra’s rock opera Beethoven’s Last Night. The story is about the devil trying to make a Faustian bargain with Beethoven, who eventually signs a contract giving the devil a symphony written by “Ludwig van Beethoven, firstborn of Johann van Beethoven.” However, it turned out Johann had had a previous son also named Ludwig who died in infancy, so the devil was only entitled to a symphony written by that infant. “I guess back then coming up with names was hard.” lmbo thats how you trick the devil, literally with literalisms also a very much better story than Lutha Mahtin's incredibly white tedx talk about seeing the musical with his fiancée. gross.
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Krankenstyle posted:Please: Philips Hamilton I don’t know what you’re talking about, but it sounds funny. I tried to google it, but google thought I was asking about Martin Luther.
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May 18, 2019 15:50
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It's a goon from earlier in the thread, not the historical figure
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Krankenstyle posted:Please: Philips Hamilton That is exactly what I initially wrote and I'm sort of unsure why I changed it.
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Our CEO sent this out. Apparently the HR strategy has changed. Exactly how, though? (Blacked out a phrase that's too easily googleable, to protect the innocent.) 
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That's a Toblerone Triangular chart before he passed it through jpeg compression a hundred times. It's a rare sight to see one in such good condition.
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Goon Danton posted:That's a Toblerone Triangular chart before he passed it through jpeg compression a hundred times. It's a rare sight to see one in such good condition. This is a chart that would be improved by generation loss.
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Hippie Hedgehog posted:Our CEO sent this out. Apparently the HR strategy has changed. Exactly how, though? I can hear my ex-CEO's voice vaguely stumbling through a half-prepared presentation on this while gesturing increasingly vaguely at it and basically reading it off the slideshow I can't wait to see the action items that are actioned off of these learnings
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The HR strategy is now for a Pac Man from Colorado, chained to a ball of heavy abstractions, to struggle to eat a power pellet of action.
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That chart just reeks of MBA.
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https://twitter.com/mui_nyan/status/1131406045744517122?s=19
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Der Kyhe posted:Because of this, there are/were some (very small and usually tribal) cultures where the child was given a name and become "a person" only after their third birthday. Infant fatality used to be so high that it was more merciful to not think infants and toddlers as real people. In ancient Rome funerals were super extravagant so to keep things under control the government made it illegal to mourn for any child who died before they turned around 4 or 5 years old.
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pangstrom posted:That chart is less awful in the context of being the first pane in a time series (I still would have broken up the brick red into two colors but whatever, that would work a bit against "the story") The biggest crime is that they label their graphs "Child Mortality Rate" and then display it as a percentage.
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