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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't know enough about their methods to say for sure, but since they started, I've always had this gut feeling that the distribution along the chart was presupposed to be true, and that they've made sure that their measurements lead to the conclusion they wanted. It seems awfully convenient that over time the media outlets have fit their curve closer and closer. I think they heard about a bell curve distribution and decided they wanted their data to fit that without really understanding what it meant.
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I was less angry about the earlier incarnations of this chart, but I'm a little mad every time it pops up on Facebook.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:It’s “anti imperialist” with quotation marks. Look at a lot of online Xi and Assad supporters and you can see how “I’ve decided anyone who opposes the US is by definition anti imperialist” and fascists absolutely have some overlap. The tankie thread is full of people talking about that particular stuff, it’s really interesting when it isn’t all slapfighty. Such as the guy who "decolonised" a town hall square on Wiyot land by… planting the "anti-imperialist" flag of China on it.
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ikanreed posted:It's not an unsound idea, other than trying to make the stupid, idiot, moron, dumbshit, awful, stupid, horseshoe stick together by linking "anti-imperialist" and "fascist" Basically they're just joining the ends with Authoritarians and almost making a version of the Political Compass .
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That wheel belongs right in the centre of the classic political alignment chart. The alignment chart itself is libertarian right.
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I think I made this same post last time a similar graph was posted but it's not necessarily wrong, just that Most Prepared != Willing
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I think I made this same post last time a similar graph was posted but it's not necessarily wrong, just that Most Prepared != Willing Yeah it's basically a list of "countries with the most money". The assumption being made is that the way to solve pandemics is just by throwing more resources at them, but oops it turns out all the stuff that's most effective against this one is relatively cheap and the expensive part like vaccines take time to develop, time which the virus can use to spread quite a lot if you aren't doing the cheap part!
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I mean, that chart's not wrong. The US very much was prepared. Prepared to gently caress everything up. 
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OwlFancier posted:I like the idea that you can conceivably be 100% factually accurate but of zero journalistic value because you're too right or left wing, lol. "Vegetarian artist hounded to suicide by communist invaders".
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Zamujasa posted:I mean, that chart's not wrong. The US very much was prepared. Best airbag system on the planet and Trump turned it off when he started driving.
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Outrail posted:Best airbag system on the planet and Trump turned it off when he started driving. Bullshit, he's incapable of turning himself off
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Captain Hygiene posted:Bullshit, he's incapable of turning himself off Naw. Big difference between an airbag and a bawbag.
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SerialKilldeer posted:e: On second thought tachyons are the most conservative particle since they go back in time. Therefore the chart is bullshit. Agreed, tachyons are definitely libertarian right. They don't follow the normal laws of physics, they go back in time, they're a complete fantasy. Higgs Bosons are centrists, they don't really do anything except slow everything down.
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I hate garbage like this. At least the cowards should include other tumultuous eras, like the late 60s or the first Red Scare. Surely the graph would show some action there too, right?
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X-axis: Years Y-axis: Just some numbers I guess. Cap it at 80, for reasons.
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Count Roland posted:I hate garbage like this. At least the cowards should include other tumultuous eras, like the late 60s or the first Red Scare. Surely the graph would show some action there too, right? The actual paper has better graphs that show how noisy the data is. If anything it shows there aren't enough riots
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ikanreed posted:The actual paper has better graphs that show how noisy the data is. I thought the tweet about the Bad Things Quotent was a joke, I didn't realise there was even a real paper lol If only they'd been around in the French Revolution, maybe they could have quantified their way out of it.
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Honj Steak posted:There are only 55 anti government demonstrations per year in the entire US?! "Government please allow/ban <activity>" demonstrations probably don't count.
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Honj Steak posted:There are only 55 anti government demonstrations per year in the entire US?! I didn't read the paper but I imagine they probably have some sort of minimum size cutoff because there's anti-government demonstrations daily at pretty much every city hall in every major city, but it tends to be groups of like 5 people tops.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I didn't read the paper but I imagine they probably have some sort of minimum size cutoff because there's anti-government demonstrations daily at pretty much every city hall in every major city, but it tends to be groups of like 5 people tops. There's been one of at least a dozen people at the town square of my 30k town every day for like 120 days. At 100 days a church came out to counter protest which was hosed.
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RodShaft posted:There's been one of at least a dozen people at the town square of my 30k town every day for like 120 days. At 100 days a church came out to counter protest which was hosed. We've had a continuous anti war demonstration by Christiansborg in Denmark since 2001 https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredsvagten Wonder if that would count as 1 in their graph?
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Carthag Tuek posted:We've had a continuous anti war demonstration by Christiansborg in Denmark since 2001 There's been a disarmament protest permanently occupying ground outside the Faslane Scotland submarine base since 1982
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Some people are always idiots, but the wide breadth of answers probably stems from the fact that the hole question isn't actually that easy.
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Anyone who thinks that a donut and a straw have a different number of holes is very confused.
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ultrafilter posted:Anyone who thinks that a donut and a straw have a different number of holes is very confused. I've spent too much time hauling bales because it took until this post to realize they meant drinking straws and I was just so confused
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ultrafilter posted:Anyone who thinks that a donut and a straw have a different number of holes is very confused. Well, are they? After all, how many holes are there on a human? Because topologically a human is homeomorphic to a donut. If you take a straw, and cut a hole in the side of it, how many holes does it have now? Two? Three? Does the same apply to, say, a rubber band? Holes are a surprisingly tricky concept to nail down.
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