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Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

learnincurve posted:

Anyone who thinks the BBC is anything but biased towards the right, and puts on the guardian but misses off the telegraph is a Conservative without realising it.

They put the Daily Mail as "skews slightly conservative".

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Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Paladinus posted:

There is a cat on that chart, too.

Cats are apparently the fifth-best kind of dog, according to their data.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Date systems ranked from best to worst:

yyyy-mm-dd
dd-mm-yyyy
days since beginning of 1900
Mayan calendar
mm/dd/yyyy

I will not be taking questions at this time

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Scotch egg, toad in the hole and tikka masala all deserve a much higher place on that list. :colbert:

Also bacon sandwich is not god tier.

Otherwise pretty spot on though

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

A lot of it also formalised during the rationing in WW2, with very little access to spices beyond our handful of native herbs. There's this a heavy dependence on gravy for flavour. Like, nobody ever eats plain Yorkshire puddings.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011


It's suet.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Peanut Butler posted:

why is white gravy so weird to brits? it's just a sausage/milk/flour roux, you folks got all those things. Is it the pepper? I'm guessing it's the pepper.

British gravy is meat juices and stock, thickened with a little flour and seasoned to taste. They're completely different sauces given the same name. (ironically the opposite of your porridge/oatmeal confusion)

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Peanut Butler posted:

e: oh it's just not called gravy??? okay this is one of those things where you also have puzzles but some puzzles are called 'mind-delights' and are never called puzzles

It's funny, I expected biscuits were going to come up and mention that what is biscuits to us is what you would call cookies, and some of our biscuits are cookies but only when studded with chocolate chips.


Oh right, this is the charts/graphs thread.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

TheMaskedUgly posted:

I'm convinced the war broadly broke the millennia of tradition of passing down culinary skills to your kids; and once the knowledge was lost, we just collectively said "gently caress it, generally" and did the culinary equivalent of that jainist thing where they just lie down and die

I'm willing to blame baby boomers not being interested in anything they didn't grow up with.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Surely all swords and guns are gayer than centre, as they are primarily tools for men to penetrate other men.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Memento posted:

how on earth

Think of it in terms of higher education driving people more to the left. The ones that come out of university still Republican would have been much more committed going in.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

VictualSquid posted:

Looks like there are some people in this questionnaire who refuse the American English meaning of liberal.
Which makes the graph even more awful.

new quote button is fun, too.

Honestly I think this is genuine linguistic drift - as socialism becomes less of a dirty word and seen as the Actual Left then liberalism's position becomes more centrist. It's not even really changed, it's just not an extreme any more. But not everyone has caught up with that.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Pie charts are best for when you're more concerned with categories as fractions of the whole than their size relative to each other. It's easier to visualise "this segment is about a third", "this is about a fifth" etc with a pie chart than bars.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

zedprime posted:

Yes,sure, we all went to middle school and learned pie charts show portions of a whole.

What business, social, or scientific concepts are we only concerned with portions of a whole? Out of those, which have distributions that make you really interested in comparing slice sizes in a way histograms are harder to make your point? That is no cheating and saying elections those pie charts are some of the most deceptively useless.

Let's say I'm a teacher and evaluating my students' pass rate in an exam. I compare those that passed first time, those that passed on a resit, and those that failed both. I obviously don't care how many times the fails fit into the passes, I just want a fraction of the class that passed. As well as seeing the fraction that passed first time, I can also combine two categories and see what fraction overall passed at all purely visually without any additional calculation.

Assume also that I have to present this information to management so can't assume they'll figure out anything from pure numbers or words with more than three syllables.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

zedprime posted:

If our visual design aspires to no more, you can hypnotize them with some red or green circles, up, down, or sideways arrows. Or maybe some clip art of a duck giving a thumbs up or thumbs down.

Honestly, this is pretty much what data visualisation is for. In any serious analysis, a simple grid of numbers is going to be much more useful than a graph, since if you want to think about what a graph is saying for more than a couple of seconds you're going to be looking at the numbers already and a straightforward grid will save your eyes dancing across the page to find them on their relevant bar or segment or whatever. Plenty of times you'll see both together, though this is more likely in a report (where you can choose for yourself what you want a quick skim vs deeper analysis) rather than a presentation.

What graphs are good for is to give a quick "good or bad" to an audience without much patience for analysis, while giving them assurance that the analysis exists somewhere because you can see the vague shape of the numbers on this graph.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Yeah this is definitely a "we just got millions of people to look at the word "Pepsi" and our new logo twenty times in a row" sort of deal.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Capt.Whorebags posted:

Who decides that a particular city’s morgue is “best in the world”?

Is there a ratings agency? Does the UN do it?

Of all the people they've serviced, not one has come back to complain!

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011


There's a British economy one too

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

I can't believe that Boomers actually had the capacity to increase their viewing of broadcast television that significantly. Most Boomers I know come home, they turn the TV on, and it stays on. Like hours and hours of CNN or MSNBC or Fox depending on their preference. And this is pre-plague!

That's just it, now they aren't coming home from anywhere, so it's on all the time.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Whybird posted:

I think they're using 'problematic' in the literary analysis sense, to mean something that could fit into one of several categories depending on interpretation.

(Fun fact: there's a theory that using 'problematic' to mean 'turbo racist' actually evolved out of this -- it was originally used to mean 'this statement could be really racist or it could be entirely innocuous, and it's not easy to tell without context which it is')

No, the tweet thread says that the "Problematic" category is songs that were once in the other categories but didn't age well.

Honestly I don't think it should be a category in itself, it's not a literary device the way the other categories are.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Yeah the dessert spoon is just the typical spoon you normally eat with. It's not got a lot of use in cooking because there's not a lot of need when you've already got teaspoons and tablespoons.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

DarkHorse posted:

Man it's gonna take days to make my character in the next Elder Scrolls game, I hope they let you save your progress

Edit: real talk there's some gems in there. "Defenestrability?" :lol:

I like the Horseshoe Theory bar.

Definitely missing Myers-Briggs type though.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

hooman posted:

I also like how Jakarta is extremely not there.

It's on the bottom-right?

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Leviathan Song posted:

How are government-made diseases a conspiracy theory? They were an official government program for both the US and Soviets into the 70s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program

Considering MK-Ultra and Tuskegee, I don't think it's an unreasonable to think some countries are still doing it clandestinely.

I think the conspiracy theory is less that they have developed any and more that a given wild disease is an escaped bioweapon.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

ultrafilter posted:

Anyone who thinks that a donut and a straw have a different number of holes is very confused.

Well, are they? After all, how many holes are there on a human? Because topologically a human is homeomorphic to a donut.

If you take a straw, and cut a hole in the side of it, how many holes does it have now? Two? Three? Does the same apply to, say, a rubber band?

Holes are a surprisingly tricky concept to nail down.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

SerialKilldeer posted:

Where’s Alaska and Hawaii?

Between Canada and Mexico.


If you had to correctly place the labels on that map it'd be an amazing geography quiz.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

I think the graph does itself a disservice sorting the characters alphabetically. You could tidy it up quite a bit just by grouping all the kids together, all the adults together, and I think some of those are characters from the next generation that are probably largely shipped with each other too. It'd cut down a lot on the little strands crossing across the middle and being hard to follow.

Cool chart though. Amused that "Reader" is shipped exclusively with Draco Malfoy.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

SerialKilldeer posted:



Do die safely!

And looking at the small text, this was the best design in a competition.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

IYKK posted:

Vowel sounds are hard for people (english speakers) who just do a formless grunt (schwa) 60 % of the time.

Describing vowel sounds in English is hard because English has like twenty vowels described with five letters.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Splicer posted:

Pineapple

(In English "apple" used to just mean "fruit (not a berry)" with "apples" retaining the name basically by default)

For that matter "pineapple" used to mean "pine cone", from that same origin. We called the ananas a pineapple because it looks a bit like one, so that name stuck in English when basically every other European language agrees it's an ananas.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

The animations do a good job of showing how much the projections are actually distorting the landmasses.
Honestly it might be a better question to ask why it's animating the Xkcd comic rather than proper maps.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

GWBBQ posted:

quote:

The silver medals meanwhile are made up of pure silver and the bronze medals are made from 95 percent copper and 5 percent zinc.

So the gold is made of silver and the bronze is made of brass?

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Splicer posted:

The rest of the world existing in some form of *diana superposition

That's Shake-It-All-Aboutdiana.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Of course the people that like licking boot are into feet

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

What gets me is that De Beers themselves couldn't conjure up a study saying even half of people find diamonds special or romantic.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Is it me or are the figures there total nonsense?

Reading that blurb, it looks like the numbers they're displaying aren't the humidity as a percentage, they're the percentage of the day that city spent at its peak humidity. While that humidity itself is only vaguely defined. Did they pick out the city that reached the highest humidity or just the one that stayed at its maximum the longest?

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

I like that "Toxic" exclusively covers Beryllium and the secret unspoken element next to Beryllium.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

I'd guess the question wasn't any more thorough than "could you beat a rat in a fight?" so that 30% is going to include people thinking "I probably couldn't get it before it got away" or "I couldn't bring myself to hurt a rat".

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Captain Hygiene posted:

Is the market value traveling through an alternate dimension before coming back to our reality at the end there?

Look if you can't understand a basic concept like fiscal branchination I'm just not going to be able to explain this to you

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Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Gann Jerrod posted:

The categories on this chart make zero sense, what does high or low “ability” mean?

Given the context I assume it means in the sense of disability?

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