Mazed posted:

Screw the stuff. Save the dude.

So. When I first saw some snatches of this game, I was seriously unimpressed with the over-the-top cynicism and all-around unpleasantness, as I tend to be with that which tries far too hard to be "edgy", and what seems like a sophomoric attempt to hammer it in further by aping the styles of a charming (and weird) game about childhood. There's also the way it looks to use the premise of "no more females" to grab at a particular section of the internet audience which feeds on the perception of women as an incomprehensible "other". Like, "/b/: The RPG" would not be an inaccurate alt title.

That said, the negative impression came about before and knowing that "Earthbound-alike" is apparently a subgenre of indie games in and of itself. (yeah Undertale does look kind of amazing) And also, well, not playing Lisa and not seeing the whole thing through to decide if it's got a worthwhile point to it. In any case, there's probably something genuinely positive to be said in dedication to creating a setting that looks this unpleasant.

So hell, let's see where this goes.

Ilustforponydeath posted:

I wonder if the writers shied away from including women due to not wanting to upset anyone too much.

Tuxedo Ted posted:

I cant get enough of Terry reclining luxuriously in the battle screen. Never send him away.


And yeah, I too didnt give this game much thought beyond "oh boy i bet this is sooo real and edgy to a 12 year old". Clearly I was wrong. Forgive me, Dingaling.

thevoiceofdog posted:

Samovar posted:

I take it there is NO way to defeat Demon X at all when you first see him?

Also, the White houses are indeed creepy.

Smornstein posted:

I've been wondering is the Russian Roulette minigame just a coin toss for every party member or do some have different percentages than others? If it's just a coin toss couldn't you, theoretically, just save scum until you win everything?

RabidWeasel posted:

Brad is simultaneously both metal as gently caress and pathetic as gently caress, it's pretty impressive actually.

ChairMaster posted:

I think one woman and basically unlimited men works pretty much fine for repopulation.

Pittsburgh Lambic posted:

Spoilers: Upon discovering that she's so special and precious to the world, Buddy flees into the wasteland and prepares to rule the Earth as its princess. The ending of LISA is an animated FMV music video reminiscent of Let It Go in which Buddy dances around and sings in ecstasy as the men around her mutate horribly, their bodies twisting and weaving together into a towering Disney castle of undulating flesh and wide, vacant smiles.

Afraid of Audio posted:

ArcadePark posted:

That describes something else completely. Modernism is more about Minimailism, Abstract expression, and forgoing frills and tradition for a more pratical design. It isn't about following one truth or format. That's more of a different philosophy all together.

Post-Modernism isn't about pointless nor fruitlessness in anything. That is more closer to Nihimism, which is about life having no meaning, purpose, intrinstic value or the Truth in it.

Post-modernism is more about skepticism of formality. It is about making sure you ask the right question that no one bothered to ask, rather then having the right answer, and solving the question, thus creating a new and creative solution. I'm saying Undertale is more post-modernism because it asks the question "Why should combat be the main mode of RPGs?". It's a good question that's been asked, but no game bothered to actually answer it meaningfully. Undertale does it through both Narrative and Mechanics. It is rather simple, rudimentary and linear, but it does pose questions about the "Combat" option in most RPGs.

In Lisa, Combat is the only expected option, like most RPGs. Doing anything else only procastines your progress in the narrative. If anything, the drug-induced hallucinations boderlines Modernism, as it delves more and more into Brad's abstract thoughts, which Modernist Literature happens to do. This happens to be one of Lisa's strengths as well.

Modernism and Post-modernism may sound similar, but that's because it really is that similar. It isn't actually direct opposite movements of each other.

thevoiceofdog posted:

Yeah we really haven't gotten too much characterization out of Buddy yet, aside from the last episode, and there's a lot more we haven't seen yet.

Also to reiterate, for people who are not sure: I am going to finish this LP. And Joyful. Just... not right now.

Rangpur posted:

Look, life in a post-apocalyptic wasteland requires serious men to make serious decisions. If you can't handle that, then go back to Russia, hippie.

A good poster posted:

The opponent went through all six chambers before Nern blew his brains out. Does the game cheat at Russian Roulette in Pain mode? I would have had it so your bullet can go into chambers 1-5 in Pain mode.