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Oct 12, 2015 06:39
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And then come back in two years time when they inevitably make OVAs for the rest of The Origin as well.
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Oct 13, 2015 03:37
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First I heard of Gundam was probably from an episode of X-Play back when it was still good. Must have been around 2006, when they reviewed that awful Gundam launch title for the PS3. I think I'd heard about it before, but I wasn't really aware of it, since Pokemon, Dragonball Z and Digimon were still the kings of the anime bloc on YTV. First series I watched in full was 8th MS Team early last year, so I'm still a newer fan. EDIT: Oh right, I'd also seen an ad in an issue of GMR magazine promoting a Gundam Seed tie in game.
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Oct 15, 2015 01:44
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Much as I rip on 8th Ms Team, it does have great fight choreography throughout. I like that beam sabers are not the immediate go-to weapon, but that most of the fighting is done with the 100mm autocannons and giant artillery snipers. It's a lot slower paced than other Gundam fights, but it has that tactical feel of tank warfare. But then you still get great melees like the Gouf Custom battle. And that GM Sniper is beautiful.
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Oct 21, 2015 04:34
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so how well did those wheels work in outer space? I'm envisioning mobile suits driving along the hulls of battleships.
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Oct 23, 2015 14:45
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Haha, holy poo poo Kai. I'm up to episode 37 of 0079 (I take long breaks between episode binges) and Kai just aimed both cannons at a Rick Dom's head.
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Oct 25, 2015 04:25
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Aaand two episodes later, Amuro is reenacting 2001 a Space Odyssey. My god, it's full of stars!
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Oct 25, 2015 05:02
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And now we've got space hippies, newtype carnage, and atomic bomb references. I can see where they were forced to cut corners because of the show's cancellation, but I'm impressed that it still manages to flow well. Might as well finish this tonight. Not like I need to wake up early or anything. EDIT: Oooh! Soccer kick a Ball into a GM! Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Oct 25, 2015 06:11
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And finished. Pretty satisfying and uplifting ending. So of course the next half dozen series go on to feature how horrible things become in the U.C I'm glad I watched the tv series first. I know a lot of you guys like to advocate the films, and I'll probably check them out at some point, but going through the whole series like that was a pretty fun ride. For how limited the budget was, the animation got pretty drat creative at times, and there was some surprisingly good fight choreography. The characterization was pretty basic, but enough characters went through their arcs and grew over time. I especially like the development of Kai from douchebag to best oldtype fighter on the ship. As far as the dub went, it is about as good as one could hope for given the source material, with some truly excellent VA work for Amuro and Char. If I had to point out flaws that I had a hard time looking past, I'd argue that the ideas the show presents are more interesting than what is actually said during episodes. The majority of the dialogue is either functional to progress the plot or overly vague. There are definitely some gems in there buoyed by strong performances, but I would have liked to see some more connection between character's actions and the ideals they are fighting for. This really only started to bother me towards the end with Lalah, because she just isn't that well defined before becoming a sacrificial lamb. As I said above, the ideas are more interesting than what is shown. The concept of newtypes is pretty fascinating but functionally in the show all they do is fight better than oldtypes. I would have liked to see that more developed, but oh well. It's been a pretty fun ride, but after this binge I'm going to take a breather before tackling Zeta. I hear the dub for that one was done by a different team of Ocean Group VAs, so is there a noticeable quality change? The major 0079 dub is from 2001, when was the Zeta dub made?
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Oct 25, 2015 07:05
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I also appreciate that the show didn't drag its heels on the ending. It's just "boom, A Buoa Qu explodes, Char headshots the last Zabi, and Amuro escapes back to his family". It was clear in the show that even for how effective the Gundam was for destroying Zeon's core of ace pilots, the war would have ended in Federation victory anyways, so I'm glad they didn't dwell on the minutiae of the mop up and surrender and focused instead on the White Base. That last scene with the White Base survivors fighting hand to hand in the wreckage of their ship was really moving after they reinforced that these are just kids all throughout the series.
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Oct 25, 2015 07:30
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Okay, first episode of Zeta, dubbed. First impressions: this is gonna be so 80s it hurts. Not big on the music, but the cheesy saxophone ending is awesome. It looks like they have an actual budget this time around, much better picture quality and animation (though they spent a huge amount of time showing us Kamille's legs as he ran). As for voice acting, it's actually not that bad. It's certainly Blue water/Ocean's second team and not their frontrunners like Scott McNeil or the Dobsons, but it's perfectly functional. Tom Edwards is no Michael Kopsa, but he still works for Char in that understated, calm performance. Kamille's voice actor is rather good as well, sounds enough like a teenager while different from Amuro. As for content, yeesh, you guys weren't kidding when you said this show is full of dickheads. Kamille punches out two Titans and an MP in this episode alone, and gets kicked in the head and billy clubbed in the gut for good measure. And the apparent protagonists, the AEUG, fire a fuckoff beam cannon at a civilian colony. Black MK II looks pretty menacing, would have liked to see it in action a bit more, but that seems to be coming next ep. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Oct 26, 2015 05:25
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I still think whoever said earlier that Zeon is Imperial Japan was right. The One Year War is pretty much the Pacific Theater in Outer Space. If it wasn't obvious from the naval parallels, the last episode makes it perfectly clear when Zeon is forced into throwing untrained cadets into advanced mobile suits and watching them get slaughtered by the Federation's ace pilots.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:32
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Zeta gundam should have the subtitle: Disproportionate Retribution. Kamille just made that officer dance using loving vulcan guns. Music still isn't grabbing me the same as the mad trumpets from 0079, but I still like that soft saxophone. EDIT: Oh poo poo! Bright slap becomes punch Bright! Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 17:56
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The Hizack is one ugly motherfucker. The beautifully simplistic designs of the RGM-79 and the Zaku II do not mix well at all. Please be a common grunt suit so I can watch these trash bins die.
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Oct 28, 2015 03:24
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closeted republican posted:The Hizack is one of my favorite Zaku variants. It's big, chunky, and has a gigantic heat hawk. It's a Zaku on steroids that looks like it's going to gently caress you up. If I'm going for a Zaku variant, I'll take the F2 Kai from 0080 or the Geara series successors. Zulus are beautiful.
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Oct 28, 2015 05:28
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Lemon Curdistan posted:The Zaku II F2 is the best-looking Zaku II. The Kai and FZ are nowhere near as pretty. The F2 is the basic Zaku II design given a more modern look, basically fixing up the line art and making everything more consistent. I still prefer the Kai, because its darker color contrast and stahlhelm are cool. It's me, I'm the terrible children in 0080 who think the mobile suits are cool and can't wait for the next war to start.
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Oct 28, 2015 20:12
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boom boom boom posted:Weren't all the robots in The Origin CGI? And it didn't look great. The CGI in The Origin was not bad, actually. The space battle at the beginning was excellent. The Guntank showdown, not so much. Lemon Curdistan posted:Exactly my point. At least the Kai was in a good show and not Stardust Memory.
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Oct 28, 2015 23:02
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So there was that rumor around last couple pages about Gundam Thunderbolt being adapted into an anime. Can I ask what exactly Thunderbolt was and where it fits with other series?
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Oct 30, 2015 04:31
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For dub watchers however, the TV series is so much better than the films. Sure the films have british Bright (which sorta makes sense since he's from Hong Kong) and Steve Blum, but the dub cast for the tv series is excellent.
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Oct 30, 2015 16:22
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closeted republican posted:He was only opportunist on the Zabis. He fought Amuro head-on multiple times. He also knowingly sent Challia Bull to his death just to prove the potential of newtypes.
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Oct 30, 2015 17:51
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So looking up Thunderbolt, it looks like 0079: Backpack edition? Gaia Gear suits are also pretty freaking cool. They all sharp angles.
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Oct 31, 2015 02:29
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Zeta episode 3: Jerid you are such a bastard. But also an idiot. Bask Om's chins annoy me, how many episodes before Bright says gently caress it and throws in with the AEUG? Emma's probably gonna be gone over by next episode considering the bullshit the Titans keep pulling. I'm really liking the use of zero gravity on the lower decks of the ship, makes a lot of sense that they'd have more than just the hangar depressurized like that.
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Oct 31, 2015 04:56
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Haha, even his helmet has shades.
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Oct 31, 2015 17:23
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How was the CGI this time around? Are they still using the Battle of Loum as a framing device like the first film?Shinjobi posted:Amuro is a frightening motherfucker by the time of CCA. Taking out nameless mooks faster than anything in Wing, which is a ridiculous accomplishment. Did you ever see that 30th anniversary animated short that was on one of the PS3 games? It was the Battle of A Baoa Qu from the POV of a Zeon and a Feddie grunt suit. Amuro shows up for about twenty seconds and utterly wastes the Zeon pilot's entire squadron like they were nothing. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Nov 1, 2015 |
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Nov 1, 2015 01:57
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chiasaur11 posted:Well, elite grunts. The Zeon pilot has a Gelgoog, and the Feddie pilot is in a space command GM. Perhaps in the Feddie's case, but there is an argument to be had that the Gelgoog pilot was just one of the school students thrust into defense of the homeland, especially when the survivors retreat back to A Baoa Qu and you see his buddies are just teenagers.
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Nov 1, 2015 04:21
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Gundam Wiki, clicking on the link for Fraw Bow's voice actress links to the Bill Cosby sexual assault allegations. That's kind of sad.
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Nov 3, 2015 00:40
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8th MS Team actually did have a scene where Zeon uses anti personnel shrapnel bombs. A downed Zaku pilot fires an airburst shrapnel shell and massacres a horde of angry villagers.
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Nov 3, 2015 03:40
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Off topic but I was watching Halo Legends the other day. During each short I kept thinking back to Zeta which I'm going through right now. It's weird, but I think I like the more limited animation from a 1980s show than an OVA. The thing that stuck out to me watching the Halo shorts was how mediocre so much of the animation was. Nothing about it really stood out as being particularly good, and even though it is technically more advanced than the stuff done on Zeta, I find Zeta more appealing to look at. I think it's in the details. I would much rather prefer a show that does certain aspects of animation excellently than a show that is just overall mediocre. I'm still early, but what I'm most drawn to was how Quattro without a word runs off to the Hangar the moment he hears Kamille has launched in the Mk II. No dialogue, not even focusing the scene on him, just something that happens within a larger picture, and I love it. It's small touches like that that are really appealing to me in a way that a crappy Halo animation is not. Microsoft throws millions of dollars into making super expensive CGI extravaganza cutscenes, but then they half rear end the budget for a Halo anime collection. Just an observation, not really gundam related but made me think about Zeta.
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Nov 3, 2015 05:31
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CaptainYesterday posted:I would watch/listen to G-Reco dubbed by Australians. Make this happen, Madman! You could always just use the Dobson brothers and their Dragonball Z fake aussie accents.
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Nov 3, 2015 18:25
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Haha, I love the little dwarf Degwin.
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Nov 4, 2015 04:19
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Droyer posted:I think war is bad AND robots are cool, personally That is really the approach I take with war fiction that is trying to be somewhat serious. Even in real life, I find tanks and warships and airplanes fascinating but I don't want to get caught up in all the "awesome!" mentality and ignore what these weapons were built for. It's also why I find most of Black library's 40k War porn uncomfortable because it is stripped of the irony that permeates the setting and just settles on bloodshed. A question wrt Origin Part 2: how is the english dub? Is Kirk Thornton still mumbling as he tries to sound like a hardass? Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Nov 4, 2015 16:20
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Hopefully there aren't any statues of a main character taking a poo poo in a transparent toilet.
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Nov 4, 2015 20:02
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Namtab posted:If he's ranma then yeah he's mumbly but I could make out what he was saying Oh good. I like Thornton as a voice actor, generally, but I prefer when he's given the chance to emote rather than his moody characters. He's great as Gato in 0083 but I never liked him in Samurai Champloo. The first Origin film he's half good (when he's shouting and staring down Kycellia Zabi) and half annoying (when he's in disguise at the nightclub)
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Nov 5, 2015 04:27
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closeted republican posted:I want a whole series of model kits and figures based on 0079's poor animation. Rapeface RX-78?
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Nov 8, 2015 02:25
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Gyra_Solune posted:i'm afraid i'm going to need this one explained When Ramba Ral dies, and the Gundam shows up outside with its vent grills upside down, giving it a creepy face. Around 1:25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIZnb-aaSPQ
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Nov 8, 2015 06:41
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NikkolasKing posted:It's early on so I remember it. My brain sort of deactivated later on in the show as everything got so tedious and boring. I think it's the episode where Garma Zabi is first introduced? And Amuro blacks out from flying at something like Mach 10 in the Core Booster.
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Nov 13, 2015 16:28
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I really don't have a problem with the CGI they used in the Origin, I'm sorry. That opening Loum sequence was frigging excellent.
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Nov 20, 2015 00:38
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I've never watched an episode of iron blooded orphans. How do the mobile suit designs stand up to other series? The graze looks a little silly and not too intimidating but I think that has to do with the piece below the head frame looking like its part of the frame. It makes the suit look like the head is oversized and sunk into the neck
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Nov 21, 2015 03:14
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Darth Walrus posted:Mind you, it is worth noting here that Londo Bell is the former AEUG folded back into the corrupt, self-interested Federation. Amuro and his comrades are indeed tools of a decaying, soulless regime until they rebel to stop Axis and become something superhuman. I think it's important that all of the Nu's weapons are stripped away before it pushes away Axis. That works on both levels of Amuro leaving the corrupt federation behind, as well as embracing Char's ideals of humanity throwing off the shackles of earth. Char might have been a nutjob, but he had a point, expressed extremely badly.
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Nov 23, 2015 06:24
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Someone make a gif of the Zaku tossing the car.
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Nov 25, 2015 21:25
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