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Veskit posted:Again, what are you supposed to cook on in that thing? Just fry up dog roll. Makes shopping simple, doubles as food for the dog and you get the true retirement living experience.
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Nov 5, 2015 04:40
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Since I missed out on the image of the houseboat, could someone please indicate which picture most closely resembles it: A  B  C  Thanks
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Nov 5, 2015 04:46
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Inept posted:How many square feet of living space does that have anyway? MRC - Its more like a cross between A and C!
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Nov 5, 2015 04:59
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I really dont get all the fears about fires burning down my boat. People do this year in year out without any issues. It's not like I'll be running gas fire lamps with cattle on board. You were talking about leaving a propane heater running unattended for your dog.
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Nov 5, 2015 11:17
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kazmeyer posted:You were talking about leaving a propane heater running unattended for your dog. Ah yes of course. I forgot that everyone turns their heater off at home whenever they leave the house. How foolish of me. Otherwise houses would be going up in flames left and right.
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Nov 5, 2015 14:27
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So is there an oven or something, or do you have to cook on a foreman or on a grill on the deck?
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Nov 5, 2015 15:33
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Ah yes of course. I forgot that everyone turns their heater off at home whenever they leave the house. How foolish of me. Otherwise houses would be going up in flames left and right.
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Nov 5, 2015 16:47
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Great thread title change. All I can think of is the boats lady from how I met your mother going "BOATS! BOATS! BOATS!" every time I read this thread. I can only predict that you will be cold and your girlfriend will be leaving you. Sad times.
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Nov 5, 2015 17:05
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Have you watched "The Gang buys a Boat" as preparation for this adventure? You should. You know, because of the implication.
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Nov 5, 2015 17:14
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Lyesh posted:Many people who use portable kerosene and propane heaters do, in fact, burn their houses down every winter. Yeah good thing I wouldnt be running a Mr.Buddy camp heater full time then. I'd be running something like this: http://www.boatownersworld.com/dickinson-newport-propane-fireplaces-p9000-cabin-heater.html Have another source from a guy who has lived on a houseboat in winter, and by some miracle made it out alive to tell about it: http://www.all-about-houseboats.com/houseboat-living-winter-heating.html quote:I lived aboard for 7 years, year around in Illinois. Great life, even in the dead of winter. I bought two LP catalytic built in heaters for my '40 RQ. spwrozek posted:Great thread title change. All I can think of is how lame you and your gf must be for watching How I Met Your Mother willingly.
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Nov 5, 2015 17:43
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Ah yes of course. I forgot that everyone turns their heater off at home whenever they leave the house. How foolish of me. Otherwise houses would be going up in flames left and right. Houses going up in flames left and right is exactly what used to happen before the advent of central heating. Space heaters are absolutely the second biggest fire risk in homes. Only surpassed by 'room full of candles, old newspapers, and lots of cats'.
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Nov 5, 2015 17:48
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How much will the renovations on this boat cost to make it death proof?
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Nov 5, 2015 18:11
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detectivemonkey posted:How much will the renovations on this boat cost to make it death proof? I'll be honest, I have no clue. I'd like to think I could get by with the onboard heat this winter. I know that I'll have to buy a couple of bubblers at around $300 a piece. I know that I'll have to get the boat shrink wrapped which is about $7-800. That should get me to this spring when I could really start renovating. I''ll need new marine grade flooring. I'd like to add in plenty of insulation and then I'll have to put up new walls. I have no idea what any of the materials for that will cost. I think I could do most of the work myself saving quite a bit on labor. Ballparking it, if I can get materials gently used or some scrap lets say $1000. But that could be on the low end.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Ah yes of course. I forgot that everyone turns their heater off at home whenever they leave the house. How foolish of me. Otherwise houses would be going up in flames left and right. You're getting all bitchy, but the fact is RV heaters suck rear end and are dangerous as poo poo. I remember back in the 90's when we had a travel trailer, carbon monoxide detectors were mandatory because those propane heaters kept killing people. E: We used to travel from VAFB, CA up to coyote point marina in the SF bay every other weekend and stay on my Dad's Hunter 30(sailboat) and that was a cold, harsh thing to live on for just two days at a time. Also, gently caress pumping out blackwater tanks, gently caress they make the whole boat stink like poo poo. We'd end up just using the marina bathrooms just avoid having to deal with that. The travel trailer was much better, but a marine head is a completely different setup. So, get used to what amounts to using an outhouse now. BloodBag fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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Nov 5, 2015 18:33
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Lol, OK :rollseyes:
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Nov 5, 2015 18:40
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How do you plan on cooking in this flammable deathtrap of a hull?
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'll be honest, I have no clue. I'd like to think I could get by with the onboard heat this winter. I know that I'll have to buy a couple of bubblers at around $300 a piece. I know that I'll have to get the boat shrink wrapped which is about $7-800. That should get me to this spring when I could really start renovating. I''ll need new marine grade flooring. I'd like to add in plenty of insulation and then I'll have to put up new walls. I have no idea what any of the materials for that will cost. I think I could do most of the work myself saving quite a bit on labor. Ballparking it, if I can get materials gently used or some scrap lets say $1000. But that could be on the low end. Are you sure you're ever going to save money over just renting? I suppose if you actually stuck with this for multiple years the possibility exists, but your startup costs are looking to be pretty enormous, in both your time and $$$. If you haven't already, try to be agnostic about the two choices and make a detailed, realistic cost comparison between the two. I know how I get when my heart is set on something and I tend to fudge the numbers to make things look more appealing than they really are, but this seems like an expensive endeavor.
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I don't know boats, here are some things that work well in trailers and RVs. If that boat is gutted to the frame right now, spray foam insulation may be your best answer. You get about R19-21 insulation rating at 1" thickness. It's about twice as effective as 2" foam. About 79 cents fer square foot at 1" thickness, but most foam guys will insist on spraying no less than 2", which doubles the price. Make sure your windows are double pane and have thick curtains or roman shades that are flush with the surface. There is a track system that keeps them from moving. You're probably using paneling for your walls, get vinyl or cellular pvc instead of wood or particle based material. Does 1 single heating furnace enough to cover multiple rooms?
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Nov 5, 2015 18:56
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Barry posted:If you haven't already, try to be agnostic about the two choices and make a detailed, realistic cost comparison between the two. I know how I get when my heart is set on something and I tend to fudge the numbers to make things look more appealing than they really are, but this seems like an expensive endeavor. By this Sunday I will try and post a side by side breakdown of monthly expenses and projected boat expenses to try and get a better idea of the numbers. So far the boat costs keep going down so I think it'll look a lot better than people seem to think.
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Why are you so convinced that your girlfriend is going to go through this ordeal with you? She already said she hated the idea and she's probably not going to just change her mind because it looks cool. And even if she decides to stick it out with you for a bit, she's going to resent you because of your stupid houseboat eventually. So basically you are going to have to choose between your houseboat and your girlfriend. Good luck!
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Mind_Taker posted:choose between your houseboat and your girlfriend. Good luck! Or both the houseboat and GF become burdens and they both end up at the bottom of a river.
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This thread delivers, we have finally reached the point where the OP is starting to be combative. As far as insulation, the best cheap method I have seen is cutting Styrofoam smaller then the space between the joists and using the cans of spray foam to outline it to do a ghetto spray foam insulation job on the cheap. The advantage is I think this stuff makes a glorious flame if you can get it to ignite.
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Nov 5, 2015 19:34
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This sounds like an expensive, dangerous, and dumb way to force your girlfriend to dump you. Just sack up and tell her you want to break up.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Ah yes of course. I forgot that everyone turns their heater off at home whenever they leave the house. How foolish of me. Otherwise houses would be going up in flames left and right. A furnace is designed to work unattended. Very few people who warm their homes when they're not there are mind-bogglingly stupid enough to try to do it with a propane heater. The ones that do experience a phenomenon known as "increased risk of house fires." Please tell your insurance company when you're shopping for rates that you intend to leave a propane burner running for a loose dog on the boat and see what happens to your quote.
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Veskit posted:How do you plan on cooking in this flammable deathtrap of a hull? There is a small propane counter stove that needs to be setup. Also a microwave. It'd be nice to have an oven but I can live without that. Mind_Taker posted:Why are you so convinced that your girlfriend is going to go through this ordeal with you? Well we dont live together now so she wont have to deal with it all the time as it is. Only when she wants to stay over. kazmeyer posted:A furnace is designed to work unattended. Very few people who warm their homes when they're not there are mind-bogglingly stupid enough to try to do it with a propane heater. The ones that do experience a phenomenon known as "increased risk of house fires." Please tell your insurance company when you're shopping for rates that you intend to leave a propane burner running for a loose dog on the boat and see what happens to your quote. I honestly dont get the great furnace boat burn panic in this thread. People do this all the time in RV's and houseboats without any issues at all. And actually I'm waiting on hearing back from an insurance company now on some more detailed quotes so that I have some better numbers to work with. I have to say though seeing the boat up close and personal this past week really makes me want to dive in that much more. It was pretty cool on board. Like having your own personal cabin! Hopefully I can secure financing soon and get the ball rolling.
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You could get a real cabin. Honestly I fully support you. Have a blast man. I bought a house so I could remodel it so I get the allure.
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spwrozek posted:You could get a real cabin. kazmeyer posted:A furnace is designed to work unattended. Very few people who warm their homes when they're not there are mind-bogglingly stupid enough to try to do it with a propane heater. The ones that do experience a phenomenon known as "increased risk of house fires." Please tell your insurance company when you're shopping for rates that you intend to leave a propane burner running for a loose dog on the boat and see what happens to your quote.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:Well we dont live together now so she wont have to deal with it all the time as it is. Only when she wants to stay over. The only thing you've said is that she thinks it's a terrible idea and that you aren't being reasonable. She's not going to want to spend the night on a god drat houseboat in the middle of the winter surrounded by bums in different houseboats. Like everyone else said: if you want to have your adventure, great! You sound like you are still young and you don't have kids or anything, so you aren't hurting anyone else. But don't expect your girlfriend to be your girlfriend much longer.
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BaseballPCHiker posted:I'll be honest, I have no clue.
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Maybe I missed this somewhere, but is there a reason you have to buy the boat now instead of next spring or early summer? Couldn't you just find a 6-month rental somewhere and save yourself the hassle of half-assing your winter preparations?
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You can stop now OP. I understand the I already said I'd do it so I'm doing it mentality, but most people won't tut tut you for backing down from a bad idea. Now if you wanted to go sailing around the world on a great adventure cool do that, but a house boat on the river just seems dumb unless you set sail for NOLA to escape every winter. Cause that's what I would do.
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Nov 5, 2015 21:46
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Your boat looks awesome OP and I'm sure it'll come in handy as a gigantic pussy magnet when your girlfriend inevitably peaces out.
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a retired professional firefighter and 10 year full time fire/arson investigator posted:walls and ceiling ... the bilge or walls It's probably good information, but difficult to accept from someone who puffs up their chest about their experience and qualifications, only to mix basic terminology. Or is this a case that since it's a houseboat, house specific and boat specific terms are interchangeable? BaseballPCHiker posted:I have no clue.
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Are you going to look at any houseboats - or just boats that have some sort of interior living space. Couldn't you just find a little month to month room rental in the winter, and live on the boat during the not arctic time of year?
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That romantic feeling when you're heating up hot pockets on top of your space heater for you and the misses on your boat shack
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BaseballPCHiker posted:By this Sunday I will try and post a side by side breakdown of monthly expenses and projected boat expenses to try and get a better idea of the numbers. So far the boat costs keep going down so I think it'll look a lot better than people seem to think. super stoked to not see a m&r line in the boat side expenses
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:super stoked to not see a m&r line in the boat side expenses He won't have to worry about m&r when he is no longer in a relationship. I'm sure that saves more money!
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$700-$800 to wrap the boat? That's a yearly thing I'm assuming? You're going to blow what is basically the equivalent of a months rent on wrapping your boat each winter. It sounds to me like the price of heating your boat is astronomical.
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op won't be posting anymore as he's been overcome by CO from portable propane heater combustion
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