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Linkquote:A recent study showed things are not at all bad for women aspiring for STEM faculty positions. According to researchers Stephen Ceci and Wendy Williams, they found no sexism in STEM faculty jobs as women tend to be employed for STEM tenure-track positions at a 2:1 ratio. As a female computer science major, I'm kind of happy about this. My classes are total sausagefests right now.
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I'm vaguely involved in hiring/firing decisions and I know I would have a strong preference for a female candidate over an equally qualified male candidate. A well qualified female candidate probably worked twice as hard as her male counterpart. This is theoretical though, as I've yet to interview a woman.
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Oct 25, 2015 19:01
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i'm glad there's an equally available pool of men & women although in seriousness the science part is usually pretty gender equal, it's the engineering side that's male dominated
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Oct 25, 2015 19:36
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i always think about female guitarists when this comes up there are loads of female virtuosos in like, almost every instrument. probably not equal representation but you're certainly not surprised to find out that a woman is an amazing pianist. but when you find out a woman is really good at the guitar? mindblown actually now that i think about it, there's probably a lot of weird instrument gendering in classical music and i dont know the name of a single female composer off the top of my head. and i guess i dont really know of any female jazz artists. maybe the difference is that we're comfortable with women playing instruments, as long as they're playing music a man wrote and are being led by a male conductor?? DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Oct 25, 2015 19:51
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am i allowed to post ironic gendered insults and creepy bizarro-HR world fiction itt or is this a YOSPOS cjs-thread spinoff safespace?
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Oct 25, 2015 19:54
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Smythe posted:am i allowed to post ironic gendered insults and creepy bizarro-HR world fiction itt or is this a YOSPOS cjs-thread spinoff safespace? all the ladies out there, ive got a stem you can look up to
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Oct 25, 2015 20:03
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Oct 25, 2015 20:04
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:I'm vaguely involved in hiring/firing decisions and I know I would have a strong preference for a female candidate over an equally qualified male candidate. A well qualified female candidate probably worked twice as hard as her male counterpart. lol
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Oct 25, 2015 20:05
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yeah i didnt mean 'they have to work twice as hard because of their smaller brains' but it sure reads that way
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Oct 25, 2015 20:38
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it is actually a tragedy that male shoegaze got his contract at all, and that it didnt rightfully go to a 2x performing female. do you feel ashamed that you are benefitting from your immense and undeserved privilege
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Oct 25, 2015 20:39
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our building is 100% technology staff, 20% female
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Oct 25, 2015 20:40
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pram posted:it is actually a tragedy that male shoegaze got his contract at all, and that it didnt rightfully go to a 2x performing female. do you feel ashamed that you are benefitting from your immense and undeserved privilege ya daily and it didnt go to a 2x performing female because no women applied for the job. thank goodness.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:41
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anyhow i'm going to recuse myself from this thread because i intended to post in good faith but now i feel like i'm shitposting all over it
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Oct 25, 2015 20:42
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:ya daily What kind of job was it, exactly? It seems crazy to me that exactly zero women would apply.
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Oct 25, 2015 20:46
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it's such a hilarious scam that "technology" gets lumped in with science, engineering and math learning programming or it stuff isn't nearly as demanding or even a fraction as valuable as the other fields
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Oct 25, 2015 20:46
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Smythe posted:am i allowed to post ironic gendered insults and creepy bizarro-HR world fiction itt or is this a YOSPOS cjs-thread spinoff safespace? gas the hugbox
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Oct 25, 2015 20:47
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Clochette posted:What kind of job was it, exactly? It seems crazy to me that exactly zero women would apply. the insidious nature of patriarchy at work imo
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Oct 25, 2015 20:47
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if i could choose between a male programmer, and an equally skilled programmer with big firm tits, knee socks, and a miniskirt - ide choose the vile goon. -said nobody ever
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Oct 25, 2015 20:48
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i like when women put their measurements, or at least a headshot on the resume
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Oct 25, 2015 20:49
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Smythe posted:if i could choose between a male programmer, and an equally skilled programmer with big firm tits, knee socks, and a miniskirt - ide choose the vile goon. -said nobody ever
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Oct 25, 2015 20:49
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Stymie posted:it's such a hilarious scam that "technology" gets lumped in with science, engineering and math
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Oct 25, 2015 20:50
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Clochette posted:What kind of job was it, exactly? It seems crazy to me that exactly zero women would apply. well i have no idea, some women might have applied. we've been hiring for the same role though and we barely have any applicants, let alone female ones. we mostly hire through recruiters here for some stupid reason, so maybe the recruiters are bad about seeking out women. i mean, given that they want to send us candidates we're likely to hire, and given that they are certainly aware of sexism in the tech industry, it wouldn't surprise me if recruiters screen out women (intentionally or unintentionally).
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Oct 25, 2015 20:55
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great avatar-post combo
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Oct 25, 2015 21:00
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:well i have no idea, some women might have applied. we've been hiring for the same role though and we barely have any applicants, let alone female ones. ill be right over
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Oct 25, 2015 21:02
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Valeyard posted:ill be right over valeyard i would unironically and enthusiastically hire you over everyone we've interviewed so far
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Oct 25, 2015 21:04
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Tiffany, could you give me a hand with this programming algorythm thing? sure, she replies. she leans over you, the smell of her perfume sending your senses into overload, her supple busom pressing aginst my cheek. this is making concentrating ... easier? this hard boner is increasing my skills? if you peek out of the corner of your eye.. while shes leaning there.. whats that between the buttons? a slight peek at her lacy bra?? I am now a Programming God 
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Oct 25, 2015 21:06
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heck yeah some yospos nepotism get in
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Oct 25, 2015 21:06
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Symbolic Butt posted:heck yeah some yospos nepotism get in even if i had no idea who he was, i guarantee you valeyard could walk into an interview and blow all of our previous candidates out of the water. at least on technical skills and stuff. no idea what valeyard would be like to work with.
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Oct 25, 2015 21:07
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Smythe posted:Tiffany, could you give me a hand with this programming algorythm thing? sure, she replies. she leans over you, the smell of her perfume sending your senses into overload, her supple busom pressing aginst my cheek. this is making concentrating ... easier? this hard boner is increasing my skills? if you peek out of the corner of your eye.. while shes leaning there.. whats that between the buttons? a slight peek at her lacy bra?? I am now a Programming God img-a young smythe hiding his erection from the dental hygienist.png
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Oct 25, 2015 21:12
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:valeyard i would unironically and enthusiastically hire you over everyone we've interviewed so far  MALE SHOEGAZE posted:even if i had no idea who he was, i guarantee you valeyard could walk into an interview and blow all of our previous candidates out of the water. id get imposter synndrome on day 1 and probably never recover. although i think you had a touch of that but seemingly not anymore its weird that you dont get many people applying with technical skills. do you think they arent familiar with the company and its just another job on the list
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Oct 25, 2015 21:12
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the owner of the place I'm working is a foreigner who speaks mostly in english so he's trying to hire people with decent english skills it's sad to watch the candidates with "advanced fluent english" on their resumes just meltdown in front of him without being able to answer "how are you?"
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Oct 25, 2015 21:19
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Valeyard posted:
not everyone who works here is a kernel developer. i had (realistically) one year of professional programming experience and 2 years of 'loving around' experience when i started here and i'm doing really well. i had way more imposter syndrome at my last job, where every developer was allowed access to the production console. quote:its weird that you dont get many people applying with technical skills. do you think they arent familiar with the company and its just another job on the list yeah i think it basically comes down to the fact that it's a "contract for hire" position at a relatively corporate gig. absolutely a good job but it doesn't look great on paper. making the jump made a lot of sense for me, since i was so inexperienced and getting the brand name on my resume alone was worth making the jump. but i dont think it would make sense for most people, especially people who aren't straight out of college who might already have families, etc. DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Oct 25, 2015 21:20
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I went back to this one laboratory that I used to work to see if I could find good candidates there, and there was this girl who seemed super great she didn't apply because she didn't think her coding skills were good enough 
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Oct 25, 2015 21:22
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:making the jump made a lot of sense for me, since i was so inexperienced and getting the brand name on my resume alone was worth making the jump. but i dont think it would make sense for most people, especially people who aren't straight out of college who might already have families, etc. see id have thought that it would be a place where almost every role would be asking for a couple of years experience, scaring away all the fresh college grads
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Oct 25, 2015 21:29
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why do women try so hard??? they are making me look bad
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Oct 25, 2015 21:37
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BONGHITZ posted:why do women try so hard??? they are making me look bad yea, in heels
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Oct 25, 2015 21:37
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Valeyard posted:see id have thought that it would be a place where almost every role would be asking for a couple of years experience, scaring away all the fresh college grads we are, but imo we dont offer enough money to snag people with experience. at least not anyone good. i talked my manager into removing the experience requirements from our recruitment process (now we're just looking for college grads with some stuff on github) and we've been getting more bites. fyi i'm sub 6 figures as a contractor, which is pretty lovely. it is, however, a very good job otherwise and i'll be very nicely set up when i get hired. DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Oct 25, 2015 |
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Oct 25, 2015 21:44
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Light the MRA signal!!! *giant fedora projects into sky*
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Oct 25, 2015 21:51
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Clochette posted:Link Is it still as bad as 13 years ago? Two women in our entire year for compsci.
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here's the actual study, if anyone wanted to look at it (it's three links deep from the OP) wonder what sort of results you'd get in industry
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