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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Well, I'm starting to have doubts about a 2014 release fellow Citizens please convince me otherwise gently caress off goonie(tm)
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Well, I'm starting to have doubts about a 2014 release fellow Citizens please convince me otherwise It's already out. Haven't you been playing it?
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Paramemetic posted:
Nah. You're just cheating more than usual. Also, happy page Piano 
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Beet Wagon posted:good luck! You hosed it up.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Well, I'm starting to have doubts about a 2014 release fellow Citizens please convince me otherwise It is still the early days of development
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Tippis posted:Then again, he lied about that too since he later revealed that he had played E:D and KSP. I suppose one could be charitable and assume that the games he listed were the ones that were worse space sims than SC, suggesting that both of those were actually better… but then, that would mean he lied about never having played anything better. He listed FS2 and IWar 2 which backs up my insanity claim.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:gently caress off goonie(tm) Sorry to hear you're a page sniping failure. Fortunately you're posting in a thread dedicated to failure so welcome friend.
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Beet Wagon posted:good luck! that's not how good luck works  now what will I live for
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Upon page 1700 we can build another outpost.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:You hosed it up. ruineverything.jpg
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:that's not how good luck works I hear there's a very good space game coming out in the near future. You could try pinning all your hopes and dreams to that.
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Wafflz posted:He listed FS2 and IWar 2 which backs up my insanity claim. Yeah… I can't really dispute that kind of evidence.
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To celebrate page 1700 i just fired up wing commando on netflix!!
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Beet Wagon posted:I hear there's a very good space game coming out in the near future. You could try pinning all your hopes and dreams to that. Would it be okay if I gave it all my savings as well?
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Hello, it is a new day, does Star Citizen exist yet jk of course it doesnt
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Beet Wagon posted:good luck! do we have a muttley emote i feel like this needs a muttley emote
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ZenMaster posted:
I'm requesting editing Croberts and Star Citizen into the finale of Event Horizon. Crobbers as Demon Dr. Weir. Beer as Lawrence Fishburn. The gravity drive is overlayed with the Star Citizen logo. Crobbers: "DO YOU SEE" Rapid montage of the most frightening SC bugs FishBeern: "Yes, I see." FishBeern hits detonator. Idris jpeg explodes. Reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzW1T89qH4
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Would it be okay if I gave it all my savings as well?  It's called whaledom, and it's the only way to fly.
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1800 will be here before you know. Like, as soon as you refresh.
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StarbloodKiss posted:Good question, it's definitely something to consider since it sends a message to everyone else who may consider a kickstarter campaign. Ultimately, I think everyone is responsible. I know its a very broad answer, but really...the backers backed the game on their own volition, however they did so under the information presented to them by the developer. The backers are responsible for their decision. But the real question comes down to should the developer be put into a position of accountability and if so, how? Enabling other people's bad behavior is fairly universally considered to be Not A Good Thing. I mean, if you've got a kid with a severe weight problem and you keep bowls of Snickers all over the house and cook a pound of bacon every morning and serve cheeseburgers and french fries and ice cream for every dinner, you're a pretty horrible loving person. "I didn't make him eat all those french fries and candy bars, he chose to do it himself" is not a good defense. But with SC it isn't just a matter of enabling, their entire business model is based on promoting the bad behavior (these ships are limited, better get one now, this ships are cheap, they're gonna be more after launch, better get that LTI, it's not going to be around forever, etc, etc, etc). Of course most of those claims ended being total bullshit, but that's a separate problem. So SC goes beyond enabling (which is bad), to promoting and encouraging (which is worse). Yes, we're all adults and are ultimately responsible for our own decisions, but that doesn't mean it isn't morally reprehensible to go to a recovering alcoholics house and leave bottles of vodka all over the place with notes saying "Just have one, it won't hurt, then you go right back on the wagon." And on top of that, it's horrible for the loving game. The game doesn't even have an economy yet and the economy is already totally borked. Chris' ideas of a reasonable time per $ value in an MMO is so far off the mark that it's insane. Either the ships purchased are a TOTAL rip off in terms of in game value (in which case Chris is a liar and an idiot), or this game will be the grindiest game in the history of the planet by several orders of magnitude (in which case Chris is a liar and an idiot). As far as accountability, it really depends. "We gave it our best shot and just couldn't do it, sorry, nothing we can do about it" is on one end of the spectrum. "We tried but we constantly made stupid decisions, wasted massive amounts of money on nonsense, spent years hiding massive problems and mistakes so we could keep the money rolling in, made millions of dollars in questionable purchases and deals, paid ourselves exorbitant salaries the entire time, etc" is on the other. At the moment I'd say it looks like we're probably a lot closer to the latter. Chris told the backers he would treat them like a publisher. That also ended up being total bullshit. Publishers would know how much money he has pissed away on mocap and big name actors and would know precisely WTF happened with Illfonic and SM. And that's the problem with crowd funding, especially on this massive of a scale. Chris is beholden to absolutely no one. Shitizens even constantly defend the idea, saying it's a private company and he doesn't have to tell us anything and can do whatever he wants with the money. Yeah, a private company funded almost entirely with public money. If this was Chris' 100m dollars it'd be fine if he hired his loving goldfish to be the VP of marketing and spent 75m of the dough on having 100 hours of cutscenes featuring Will Smith and Tom Cruise and Johnny Depp. But it isn't. I think at the end of this there's going to be a lot of people saying poo poo like "Thank god we've publishers and VCs that will hold these assholes feet to the fire, otherwise we'd never get any decent games at all."
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Right, learn it from Swedish mobsters themselves! I thought that said Swedish lobsters, which makes about as much sense as anything else we've heard.
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Seriouspost: Someone mentioned about LTI being like EVE letting you buy from them a guaranteed fitted and ready to fly ship to have if you get blown out of space and don't have anything handy. They do. Rookie frigates. Everyone gets one, all the time. If you dock at a station in your pod and you don't happen to have a ship there you get one. It's actually kind of pesky because you can't melt the drat things and my packratty nature abhors just trashing stuff. If you lose everything, and I mean everything, and are down to zero spacebucks (you didn't insure your ship lol) in the rear end-end of nowhere you can still send your clone back to safe empire space, pick up your free frigate and go start grinding back up from nothing. But then again you can actually play EVE (why would you), so they actually figured out things like 'how do we make sure our players can keep playing even if they lose in the most complete and total manner possible?'
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You can easily hold people accountable for things because this is the real world and actions have consequences, especially actions like taking over $100 million and shaping it into a tire fire
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Prop Wash posted:You can easily hold people accountable for things because this is the real world and actions have consequences, especially actions like taking over $100 million and shaping it into a tire fire they could have gotten 3% in iowa with all that cash
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El Spamo posted:Seriouspost: Someone mentioned about LTI being like EVE letting you buy from them a guaranteed fitted and ready to fly ship to have if you get blown out of space and don't have anything handy. Are you trying to tell me there are game companies out there that put some modicum of thought into actual design and mechanics? Mind blown.
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fuzzknot posted:I thought that said Swedish lobsters, which makes about as much sense as anything else we've heard. We have those, you know. That said, this is a much more important national institution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crayfish_party El Spamo posted:Seriouspost: Someone mentioned about LTI being like EVE letting you buy from them a guaranteed fitted and ready to fly ship to have if you get blown out of space and don't have anything handy. A fairly crucial difference is that the rookie frigates — and their complimentary 1 unit of trit — is worth at most 100 ISK (as a point of comparison for the uninitiated, the next step up is a horribly weak frigate that sets you back some 200–300,000 ISK and with actual fittings it can easy add an additional zero at the end… or two). That's not a lot of value and market effect compared to the implied value from these thousand-dollar packages. Tippis fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Colostomy Bag posted:Are you trying to tell me there are game companies out there that put some modicum of thought into actual design and mechanics? Mind blown. uhm sounds like a bunch of game companies that don't know how game development works.
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Chris Roberts steals EVERYTHING, not just ship designs! Proof:  
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A Neurotic Jew posted:uhm sounds like a bunch of game companies that don't know how game development works. Oh no, I just found a fatal flaw in my refund request! I forgot gameplay development comes last. I really don't know anything about game development.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Are you trying to tell me there are game companies out there that put some modicum of thought into actual design and mechanics? Mind blown. fuckin' weird right?
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Freddy Prince Jr just totally put his foot in his mouth with the hottie who he called a grease monkey but she was in fact his wing commando. Hahahah classic. OH poo poo NOW THEY ARE DRINKING SPACE WHISKEY AND GETTING TURNT A+++++ movie
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