Star Citizen: Big MoMA's House

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Jessant: Jun 16, 2001

SomethingJones posted:

It's almost unbelievable that they're asking people this.

Option 1:

They record this fake DIY foley stuff as bait for this thread and reveal it was bait for this thread during their next sale to great applause and much spending on imaginary spaceships. No Star Citizen ever admits to having praised it.

Option 2:

They have nothing to show for development any time soon, panic and decide that 'hey you know that foley sound recording? that is something we can make footage of right here in the office!' and nobody stops to check that this is actually how its done before they have put it out in their promotional videos posing as triple A budget game development. Some goober had those grenades as desk decorations.

Option 3:

This is how they are actually recording sound for their game now.

Option 4:

They are taking the piss out of their own backers. 'Is there anything they wont defend?'

The fun thing is due to the sheer fuckery around everything Star Citizen its almost impossible to pick one!

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:35

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 14:54

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Daztek posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6497041/#Comment_6497041

Oh man is it happening again? I guess they worked the bugs out of Stargur.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:36

A Neurotic Jew: Feb 17, 2012; by exmarx

MeLKoR posted:

fuuuuuuuuuuuck

What's awesome about this is that we've managed to convince this guy that zecumbe is a goon. Even my typing this will reinforce in his mind that he's a goon. But he's not.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:36

Ravane: Oct 23, 2010; by LadyAmbien

Daztek posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6499045/#Comment_6499045

Oh my.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:37

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

Dusty Lens posted:

Oh man is it happening again? I guess they worked the bugs out of Stargur.

Naw, that was me and a case of wrong buttan

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:37

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

This is my sound 'card'

It uses ASIO drivers, it needs these to remove latency when recording multiple tracks over USB and in general when interfacing with Cubase etc.

A computer game does not need ASIO drivers wft are they even thinking?

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:38

darkarchon: Feb 2, 2016; My name is a trolling word

Daztek posted:

Naw, that was me and a case of wrong buttan

You french and pressing wrong buttons :argh:

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:39

Loel: Jun 4, 2012; "For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.

SomethingJones posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6496779/#Comment_6496779

"As a US Marine with several combat tours, I can tell you from first hand experience that military gear does not rattle that much. If it does, we tape it up with electrical tape so that it does not. The metallic rattling in the preview video was very excessive and needs to be scaled back quite a bit.

here are a few videos I pulled up on youtube that show some common sounds."

^ confirmed. The squad leader will make you jump up and down to ensure your gear is quiet.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:40

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Daztek posted:

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6499045/#Comment_6499045

Can anyone here tell me what AAA Star Citizen currently 'blows away'?

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:40

Wrecked Angle: May 12, 2012; "JURASSIC PARK!"

Seems there have been a few more newcomers to SA thanks to this thread so I've transcribed this so that you may understand better...

New CIG Exile posted:

I've paid my and joined the filthy goon horde. What do I get for my money?

Crisp Boberts posted:

So uh... when paid... uh PLEDGED your 10 dollars we kinda thought you'd have things like... uh. FORUMS! Like there's this place called Goons With Spoons which will sort of be where you can talk about FOOD and kinda post recipes and other users will... mumblethud... USE your recipes to make food that they can then EAT and that'll sort of give you energy or if you eat too much it could sort of.. make you FATTER. Then there's this area called YLLS where you can.. kinda go because you've got FAT, and they'll tell you how to EXERCISE. Or you might.. *licks lips* post about that hideous growth that you've got and people would point and laugh and be kinda grossed out... BUT, uh.. others might be kind of that's a X type growth or Y type or whatever and help you out.

Another place there might be is like..uh, a GAMES forum where most threads will be kinda posting about real games and stuff like that but you could post about a sort of game that's being DEVELOPED and how great it's going to be or whatever.. flumpfgrumble.. people might be READING what you've wrote and..sort of CHANGE their development plans based on that. There might be ah.. a place where you can post about uhm.. CARS or computer hardware or pets or something like that and people would.. SPORTS! Definitely sports where you could kind of say well uh.. this team is best or the Dallas Dodgers are better of something like that.

Some people might wanna post about more serious stuff like err.. politics or um.. DRUGS and there would be a place for that and there would be places where you could just post funny stuff or jokes or... uh NONSENSE or whatever you want. You might be good at drawing and think 'I wanna.. kind of.. post my drawings' and sort of show people the.. what you're doing and other people might then come in and say 'well, you should maybe try doing this or maybe try not being so bad at that' or whatever. Uhh.. and that would apply to EVERYTHING you can probably think of, like uh.. drawing and music or.. pherluffle ..drawing and woodwork and everything else. Some people might uh.. want to post about uh.. TV or comics or MOVIES. So someone might say 'I saw this really awesome film called Ring Commando' and everyone else would sort of agree with them and talk about how good it was.

So yeah, you sort of get everything all in one place.. like spaceships and cattes and kinda POSTING and it's all.. there's really.. I get kinda annoyed sometimes when I see new backers posting 'Where is this post?' or 'Is there a post on kayaks?' or whatever.. I could tell you about posts that I've kinda.. SEEN or whatever but now your here YOU CAN POST, you can READ. That's what we said you would get on Something Awful and that's what you can do right now.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:40

D1E: Nov 25, 2001

peter gabriel posted:

A computer game does not need ASIO drivers wft are they even thinking?

Maybe that decrease in latency might allow their PC to increase the frame rate by 1 FPS?

Maybe they are starting to aid in Star Citizen's development...

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:41

Daztek: Jun 2, 2006

peter gabriel posted:

Can anyone here tell me what AAA Star Citizen currently 'blows away'?

Elite: Dangerous for starters

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:41

darkarchon: Feb 2, 2016; My name is a trolling word

peter gabriel posted:

Can anyone here tell me what AAA Star Citizen currently 'blows away'?

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:41

Ravane: Oct 23, 2010; by LadyAmbien

Illfonic sound design: https://vimeo.com/138360203

CIG sound redesign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2OVeUxfjuM&t=3275s

Holy poo poo is this real? The CIG redesign legit makes everyone sound like Lesnick waddling in spandex.

:negative:

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:41

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Daztek posted:

Elite: Dangerous for starters

Owned

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:43

D1E: Nov 25, 2001

Ravane posted:

Holy poo poo is this real? The CIG redesign legit makes everyone sound like Lesnick waddling in spandex.

Then it would be much more accurate, based on their target audience.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:44

Ash1138: Sep 29, 2001; Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

peter gabriel posted:

This is my sound 'card'

It uses ASIO drivers, it needs these to remove latency when recording multiple tracks over USB and in general when interfacing with Cubase etc.

A computer game does not need ASIO drivers wft are they even thinking?

they're trying to reinvent the wheel again and call it "immersion"

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:44

SpunkyRedKnight: Oct 12, 2000

I am glad I will be able to realize my dream of being a space janitor, running around with all my jangling keys.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:45

Sperglord: Feb 6, 2016

Question: what is ASIO and why is it so crazy that Star Citizen is considering using it?

Conspiracy Theory: CIG has to make new sounds because it doesn't want to pay Illfonic for the sounds they made.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:48

runsamok: Jan 12, 2011

peter gabriel posted:

This is my sound 'card'

It uses ASIO drivers, it needs these to remove latency when recording multiple tracks over USB and in general when interfacing with Cubase etc.

A computer game does not need ASIO drivers wft are they even thinking?

That's not your card! I see no dedicated banjo input.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:50

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Sperglord posted:

Question: what is ASIO and why is it so crazy that Star Citizen is considering using it?

Conspiracy Theory: CIG has to make new sounds because it doesn't want to pay Illfonic for the sounds they made.

ASIO is a driver used in audio recording to reduce latency, usually goes like this:

Guitar / whatever instrument > Audio interface *ASIO driver does it's magic here* > Recording software.

Without ASIO it's impossible for most hardware to record stuff without it being laggy, and therefore useless

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:50

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

Wrecked Angle posted:

Seems there have been a few more newcomers to SA thanks to this thread so I've transcribed this so that you may understand better...

lmfao

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:51

darkarchon: Feb 2, 2016; My name is a trolling word

Sperglord posted:

Question: what is ASIO and why is it so crazy that Star Citizen is considering using it?

Conspiracy Theory: CIG has to make new sounds because it doesn't want to pay Illfonic for the sounds they made.

ASIO are low-level sound drivers. With that you can access input and output of your soundcard with a very low latency. Usually used for recording/outputting real-time devices like guitars where you can't afford to have a high latency.

e;fb

darkarchon fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Mar 25, 2016

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:52

Tippis: Mar 21, 2008; It's yet another day in the wasteland.

peter gabriel posted:

A computer game does not need ASIO drivers wft are they even thinking?

I think I've spotted the part where your assumptions lead you astray�

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:52

Dusty Lens: Jul 1, 2015; All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

That or they broke contract in some way with Illfonic and are unable to use anything that Illfonic created, from maps to animations to audio, resulting in CIG having nothing to show for the years of development time.

That strikes me as more consistent with the events that transpired than CR throwing up his hands at the last second and shouting that they'll redo everything internally. CIG hasn't been terribly shy about shoveling out poo poo and promising that it's a few pipeline refactorizations away from being spun into gold.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:52

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

runsamok posted:

That's not your card! I see no dedicated banjo input.

I have a mic :smug:

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:52

tooterfish: Jul 13, 2013

peter gabriel posted:

Can anyone here tell me what AAA Star Citizen currently 'blows away'?

I'm pretty sure even licking a AAA battery would be more enjoyable than playing Star Citizen.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:53

darkarchon: Feb 2, 2016; My name is a trolling word

peter gabriel posted:

Without ASIO it's impossible for most hardware to record stuff without it being laggy, and therefore useless

The main issue is the latency, the higher the latency of your output compared to your input the more difficult it is to actually play something. It's not completely useless but much harder. You could just ignore what the computer is outputting and listening to your own instrument instead, with that you could record stuff.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:53

1500: Nov 3, 2015; Give me all your crackers

Tippis posted:

More accurately: it's the only right way to do it, there's no need to repeat mistakes that were learned in the 1920s and '40s. As someone pointed out, the amount of sound they're trying to mix and the number of sources of those sounds just make it a directionless swirl of white noise. Not that it's inherently bad to have many sound sources, but you need to understand which ones are actually important to hear and which ones should be muted at any given time.

What they're doing is essentially the same mistake they're doing with their �immersive� visuals and VR: they assume, contrary to all proven experience, that you want to simulate everything that is happening and shove it right down the player's throat. �We should have this chair animation because that's what happens when you sit in a chair�; �we should have headbob because your head moves up and down�; we should have every item make a noise because every item does.� All of these are technically true, but they are irrelevant to the process of making a useful, believable environment because we have this huge pattern-matching DSP-like blob of fat between our ears that filters out all of that junk and only shows us what we need to pay attention to. That's the job the audio (and visual) designers have to do for us in a video game � it's not to overload the brain with input that it has no control over.

You don't even have to go poke at SONY engineers to understand this. Just look at the behind-the-scenes of any somewhat competently made film. If there's a section on sound editing, there will pretty much always be a comment about how you can't use every sound because that becomes awful to listen to and will ruin the film like little else can. The M�makils in LOTR have four legs � they still make a �STOMP � STOMP � STOMP� sound (rather than the quiet shuffleshuffleshuffleshuffle you'd get from an actual elephant) because that's the impression of weight and impending doom you want to convey to the audience.

Its like the head bobbing, the brain filters that out. The same is true for sounds, when I go on a backpacking trip I almost never hear the sound of my backpack, my brain has filtered that out. You stop hearing your PC fans because they just turn into background noise.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:54

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

ASIO / other drivers have nothing to do with sound effects or any audio that is on your hard drive, they are there to reduce latency from an input device.
One you have a dozen tracks recorded into Cubase you can uninstall the ASIO drivers if you like and it won't matter at all.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:54

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

our game has so much fidelity that you have to download custom audio drivers

we're going to gently caress your earhole with our fidelity

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:54

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

peter gabriel posted:

ASIO / other drivers have nothing to do with sound effects or any audio that is on your hard drive, they are there to reduce latency from an input device.
One you have a dozen tracks recorded into Cubase you can uninstall the ASIO drivers if you like and it won't matter at all.

could this be like some kind of marketing gimmick? like our sound design is so amazing and ambitious you need CUSTOM DRIVERS

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:55

1500: Nov 3, 2015; Give me all your crackers

Eonwe posted:

my wife told me I'd never make myself spend the money, so she preordered me a Vive this morning

Good women there.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:55

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

darkarchon posted:

The main issue is the latency, the higher the latency of your output compared to your input the more difficult it is to actually play something. It's not completely useless but much harder. You could just ignore what the computer is outputting and listening to your own instrument instead, with that you could record stuff.

Agreed, I guess the point I am making is ASIO is not related to sound effects that the game installs onto your hard drive, so they are up to something potentially interesting and therefore with CIG potentially hilarious

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:56

Hav: Dec 11, 2009; Fun Shoe

A Neurotic Jew posted:

Even my typing this will reinforce in his mind that he's a goon. But he's not.

I'd like to point out that what this goon says is entirely true. Zecumbe is not a goon.

*wink*

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:57

peter gabriel: Nov 8, 2011; Hello Commandos

Eonwe posted:

could this be like some kind of marketing gimmick? like our sound design is so amazing and ambitious you need CUSTOM DRIVERS

Hmmmm, not really because there are a lot of people out there who know what this stuff is for and they will be 'wtf' about it.
if it is ASIO it is 100% idiotic, so all signs point to it being ASIO, but I also think someone has dropped the 'positional audio' buzzword into a conversation so now Chris wants 100,000.1 surround sound or something.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:57

boviscopophobic: Feb 5, 2016

I won't be satisfied with the fidelity unless we get a customized Star Citizen OS running on custom hardware.

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:59

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

I really like Mumble, but I remember when it was first picking up steam my friend tried to tell me it has positional audio, like if he was far away in game and I had that enabled I wouldn't be able to hear him very well

and its like

nah

# ? Mar 25, 2016 16:59

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

boviscopophobic posted:

I won't be satisfied with the fidelity unless we get a customized Star Citizen OS running on custom hardware.

Star Machines

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# ? Apr 25, 2024 14:54

moveable shape: Oct 18, 2015

A Neurotic Jew posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLpYxot95Ns&t=35s

The skipping dinner remark is a classic. Good indicator someone has no loving idea how many calories they are consuming. Really though this is the norm for Americans and not a knock on Ben

take a sabbatical from this poo poo house company and start weighing portions and counting calories dude

# ? Mar 25, 2016 17:00

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