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mrking posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyXvApICPnE Probably not what you mean, but the thumb controls on the Star Citizen branded joystick are meant to be a similar solution, yet lack analog or optical precision, and are therefore inferior, imo. 
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Feb 3, 2016 01:48
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spacetoaster posted:refund? ? I've never spent any money on Star Citizen. I bought my fleet with TNGS contest winnings and donations from fans. Maybe you are thinking of someone else?
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Feb 3, 2016 01:55
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spacetoaster posted:My bad. Didn't know. No worries. I'm not around that often. I'm a "true believer" in CR and SC and there isn't much tolerance in here for that kind of optimism :p
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spacetoaster posted:Ok. As someone who's been involved with CIG (I'm just assuming you know more behind the scenes stuff) why do you think the release dates have slipped so far? I can say I'm glad they are taking their time, because I remember Freelancer, and believe Chris has learned a lot from that experience. I'm also two years behind on my own crowd funded project, so I'm somewhat sympathetic. Mine is done except for the last pass on sound quality, and most of my team and supporters are glad we took our time, as the final product is really quite satisfactory. So maybe I learned the same lessons by proxy. [edit] Also, and I know what this place is for, but I really hate it when people poo poo talk about Sandi. She's one of the nicest people I've ever corresponded with. Some comments just really turn my stomach, or yeah, I would spend more time here. Fuzzy Modem fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Feb 3, 2016 02:36
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spacetoaster posted:I know we're all super edgy internet trolls here, but in the dark recess of my cold black heart I would LOVE for this game to come out and be everything promised. Have you played any of the leaked content?
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Feb 3, 2016 02:47
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spacetoaster posted:No, I saw a lot of it though. The vanduul ships and things. So you weren't supposed to know about that stuff at all, yet it still exists. Why hadn't they showed it to you? Same answer to Beer's question.
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Feb 3, 2016 02:59
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EminusSleepus posted:how many times/years have you worked/corresponded with Sandi? It is her job to be nice after all she is the best marketing person in the whole world since childhood. We still chat occasionally, as she recently mentioned on AtV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuiVA131ZZ4 18:37 She's not just nice, she goes out of her way to be helpful. Maybe we just get along especially well, but Sean, Chris R and Sandi all made me feel welcome on Shotgun. I can't speak to anyone else's experiences (except to suspect that they are fabricated.)
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Feb 3, 2016 03:33
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TTerrible posted:At some point you need to apply Occams Razor. Either this is a giant conspiracy and all of the rumblings about Sandi being a tyrant are false or she doesn't behave the same way towards everyone else as she does to you. I'm not going to tell you to gently caress yourself or get out but there is mounting piles of bad stacking up. Bootcha (as I suspect you know) was a pre-KS investor and wouldn't have pulled his investment nor said the things he has just to earn internet points. fuctifino posted:If Beer's emails are truly fabricated, then why don't CIG at the very least make a public statement stating that they are fake? Or better still, why don't they sue? It would be an open and shut case. Look how long it took them to acknowledge D.S. because that's what Smart wanted them to do, as it creates the false illusion that they are actually peers.
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Feb 3, 2016 03:49
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EminusSleepus posted:I would believe you if you have worked with Sandi 8hours/day for at least a year. those who made "fabricated stories" worked with her. Did they? I'm sure they can provide me with their Shotgun page then. If so, I'll eat crow. Fuzzy Modem fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Marching Powder posted:what the gently caress are you talking about? p Yeah, that was weird. Why did it not post the word "wanted"? [edit] Oh wait, it just took a second longer to load, because it was in italics I guess. What's your question? Do you need me to rephrase?
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Feb 3, 2016 03:55
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G0RF posted:Some comments about her turn my stomach too, and for my part, I try to avoid piling on when the vicious stuff flies. Same is true with the Ben Lesnick weight jokes. No one is putting a gun to anyone's head and making them buy spaceships. Hell, you want to try an actually expensive hobby? Play hockey. Or go skiing. I have no issue with crowd funding, as I have relied on it myself to complete my own artistic endeavor.
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Feb 3, 2016 04:02
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Marching Powder posted:my question is who are these people - who is 'them' specifically and how long did it take them to acknowledge DS specifically? CR and CIG ignored DS until the Escapist article
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Again, if Beer (or anyone else) was an employee, he can name his Shotgun page, and I can go look at the quality of his work, and what Sandi, and everyone else, had to say about it.
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Feb 3, 2016 04:10
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G0RF posted:The GAME they are selling WILL NOT BE MADE BY THEM. I've scrapped portions of my project and started again from scratch quite often, and the results are always better for the time and effort. That isn't to say the original plan I presented to backers was a lie, it simply didn't work out as I'd hoped. That's just reality.
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SquirrelGrip posted:yeah this My Shotgun page is "Cryo" My crowd funded project is called "CrossOver". SquirrelGrip posted:no he will come back Absolutely.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:20
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Google Butt posted:do you think beer fabricated the emails? I used the word "suspect" and stand by it.
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Marching Powder posted:ask him for proof of their legitimacy and he'll provide it for you i'm sure, but before you waste his time answer all of this Tijuana Bibliophile posted:So, you're demanding this level of proof for CIG's misconduct. On the other hand, you're perfectly okay with accepting absence of evidence as proof of the game's being further in development than they've proved. I know exactly how much the game is progressing. I have a Shotgun account. I suppose if I didn't, I might be more skeptical, but then again I'd still be playing the SC alpha more than I play any other game. It's already the best space combat sim I've ever played. I don't really understand why people still lack optimism. And yes, Sandi is my friend, and I don't like to hear people talk poo poo about my friends, even my friends who are less than perfect people, which is... let's see... yeah, all of them.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:31
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Of all the people who've claimed to interact with Sandi Gardiner, there's the open and patient former investor Bootcha and there's the mysterious and cagey Fuzzy Modem. Watch TNGS. I'm frequently on camera talking with Sandi.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:38
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Unfunny Poster posted:What games are you basing this comparison on specifically? What makes the current playable version of Star Citizen better than them, specifically? WC 3 Freespace Freespace 2 Starlancer Freelancer Independence War 2 X2 Star Citizen's flight model is far superior, to say nothing of its quality in other areas. Fuzzy Modem fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Feb 3, 2016 05:41
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Kakarot posted:what does this shotgun account thingy do? Does it let you play the real Star Citizen? Kramjacks posted:Whats Shotgun? Whats TNGS? Shotgun is CIG's development and feedback platform. TNGS is "The Next Great Starship" a reality TV style contest I participated in a while back, which is when I got to know Sandi and the rest of the team leads, and when I was given access to Shotgun.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:44
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Nation posted:Fuzzy if you can convince me to support SC I will do it, please take your time Easy. Do you like spaceships? Yes? Okay. Wait for the $20 Aurora/Mustang packages to go on sale. Enjoy.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:48
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alf_pogs posted:do they come with the game or do i need to drop more money down the roberts moneyhole They don't come with Sq42 anymore, but technically you'll be able to play in the Star Citizen PU for the cost of a $5 character slot. You'll just have to hire on to someone else's crew.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:53
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Iron Tusk posted:So to be clear as a third party non-employee you have total unrestricted up to date access to all their planning and deliveries? I can see everyone's work in progess, read developer comments and post my own. Think Facebook for Star Citizen.
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Feb 3, 2016 05:58
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T.G. Xarbala posted:Okay, look at it this way: I'm not asking you to believe anything. I'm saying I don't spend much time in this thread because it turns my stomach.
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myschef posted:The most recent game this guy said star citizen beat was released in 2003. Thats 13 loving years. Its X2. He doesnt say the flight model is better than x3 though, which came out in 2005 I didn't play X3. Nation posted:I understand buying a jpeg but what does the game offer me? How do i get a better ship without buying one? What is the economy like in-game? Where can i fly to and what can i do? How many people can i expect to be fighting with? you need to convince me please Well, don't stress it. Fly your $20 Aurora or Mustang around and shoot at other spaceships for now, and see what happens in the future. If you like spaceships as much as I do, that's already enough incentive. If not, spend that $20 on a movie and popcorn. Probably won't cover a drink though.
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Nation posted:You are terrible at convincing me Then you must not like spaceships, and this is definitely not the game for you, and that's okay. Not everything has to be for everyone.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:
B_of_InfoRedux posted:And follow up - then why post here? You can't think you're going to turn anyone's mind here. Hell pretty sure its already been well established visa the comments thrown your way that won't happen. So any then posy? To troll? To ensure your side is represented (it already was mind you)? Seriously, what's the point if it "turns your stomach"? I don't really care about any of this silly conspiracy theory bullshit. I really just wanted to talk about playing Star Citizen with my rad new mouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyXvApICPnE Fuzzy Modem fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Feb 3, 2016 06:14
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:What proof would you require in order to have your suspicions alleviated? I really don't care dude. It just doesn't sound like the person I know. Look I think we've all had friends who dated, and then split up, and then you had to listen to them talk poo poo about each other. That's the same vibe I feel in here, and it sucks. That's all I'm saying.
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Nation posted:I ask question and you say its not the game for me... I will literally troll derek smart everyday if you convince me to fight for SC, please help convince me; Well, do like my friend and brother do. They have a $20 and $60 ship respectively, but instead of flying them they crew for me or borrow my other ships. Biggest ship you can buy as a civilian is a Javelin Destroyer, which is a crew of 30 off the top of my head. Think what you'd buy if you were the guy in your office who's job it was to develop team building exercises. It's $20 man. That's, like, what does Angry Birds cost? Also, the Mustang Beta is a really nice little ship. It's just kind of a glass cannon. I have one myself, to escort my Vanguard.
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Unfunny Poster posted:Why would you have, what this design implies, the shields for a ship only available on one side? She's designed to broadside in decoupled flight mode.
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BeefThief posted:This is clearly a man who understands Game Development. How much have you pledged, Citizen? Nothing. To be fair, I have zero skin in the game.
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spacetoaster posted:I actually really loved the design of this ship, AND the story behind it. Thanks! And yeah, very much a response to the Scythe ramming tactic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVr3-XPqdpo
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EminusSleepus posted:do you think your ship would fly(if it would have won TNGS) with their super realistic flight model? I do know they are handwaving the thruster/centerofmass stats for ships like Scythe and Mustang because they apply logic into it, that would not be what it looks right now. that goes same to your ship design, too much Hollywood. Yeah, I actually had to rework all my thruster placements to account for torque. If she lost shield panels or expended munitions at inconsistent rates, she would eventually list to one side a bit though.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:You know what? gently caress you. I'm so sick of spineless assholes like you making statements putting my credibility into question and then backing off the second you're confronted about it. You don't give a poo poo about the truth. You don't give a poo poo that your "friend" actually did write everything I shared. Well guess what; she loving did. Every communication I linked is one between myself and Cloud Imperium Games. You, like so many other backers, have invested so much time and energy into Star Citizen that the possibility that it all might come crashing down is a terrifying prospect. Imagine for a second that it really is all a lie. Imagine that Star Citizen really is a disaster that will never be released in the manner that they are dreaming of. Imagine that Chris Roberts really is either outright lying to you or that he is pathologically incapable of perceiving the possibility that things are hosed because of his management approach. Imagine that all of your effort, time, money, energy, everything you've done is a complete and utter waste. Can you? Sounds like you need a new hobby. [edit] I suggest scale model kitbashing. It's very cathartic.
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Tippis posted:So you've gone from accusations to backtracking to outright lying. How am I lying? I bought my fleet with TNGS prize money (game credit) and contributions from fans, as I stated above. [edit] Kramjacks posted:you said you bought a vanguard http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&pagenumber=558&perpage=40#post443739366 Same. Fuzzy Modem fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Feb 3, 2016 |
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Tippis posted:So let's ask again: how much? $750 of not my money.
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Ash1138 posted:hey if you like complicated ships that you can only look at, then i've got a game for you alf_pogs posted:no How are people still saying it doesn't exist? I play it all the time. If Star Citizen as it stands now is all it would ever be, I would still play it all the time. Forever. (But then I still play Dig Dug.)
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Tippis posted:So you have $750 in this game. That is not “no skin”. Thus: liar. It's not as if I could have spent the money on anything other than spaceships. Duh. Not the same thing as spending my paycheck. I imagine I would though. I mean, I spent $100 on a mouse with Star Citizen in mind, so I guess I do have some skin in the game. I am a liar. My mistake.
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Also, I should have put Babylon 5: Into the Fire on that list, as I also still play it, and it was finished to about exactly the same point Star Citizen is at now. Coincidentally, if you missed it, the tech demo for what would have been the official Babylon 5 flight simulator leaked last year. I have to run it in windowed mode, but it's rad.
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